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Posted February 12, 2018
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kohlrak: Actually, the main challenge to her isn't the "sexy content." The real challenge is the "weird voice acting" and the "art design." Mind you, she sees it like anime, and her only positive experience was Sailor Moon, with her most common experience being Inuyasha. I don't like 99% of anime, myself, but I feel this bubble needs burst. She has no problem with DoA, for example, but RWBY drives her absolutely insane (and she's a hardcore roosterteeth fan, as in she's going to RTX this year). I gotta pop that bubble.
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paladin181: I got the hyperdimension Neptunia series because I heard good things about it, but the squeaky voice acting kept me from playing for more than 10 minutes.
Honestly, if she can handle huniepop, that's the next one. I'll even see if i can fix the EXE so it defaults to japanese, since the settings don't stick. But, yeah, the squeak is part of the humor. Unfortunately, it gets old fast. After i sent the playtimes to her, i sent this:
that's whom you have to beat
here's a challenge to get you ready: http://f01b.voiceblog.jp/data/onokuboaki/1209288654.mp3
can you get through the whole thing? XD
Post edited February 12, 2018 by kohlrak
Posted February 12, 2018
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paladin181: I got the hyperdimension Neptunia series because I heard good things about it, but the squeaky voice acting kept me from playing for more than 10 minutes.
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kohlrak: Honestly, if she can handle huniepop, that's the next one. I'll even see if i can fix the EXE so it defaults to japanese, since the settings don't stick. But, yeah, the squeak is part of the humor. Unfortunately, it gets old fast. After i sent the playtimes to her, i sent this:

that's whom you have to beat
here's a challenge to get you ready: http://f01b.voiceblog.jp/data/onokuboaki/1209288654.mp3
can you get through the whole thing? XD
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kohlrak:
Are you sure. I set voice acting in Hyperdimension Neptunia to Japanese and did not have any problems with the settings.
Posted February 12, 2018
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MarkoH01: Are you sure. I set voice acting in Hyperdimension Neptunia to Japanese and did not have any problems with the settings.
Unless it updated. The settings don't like to save right or something. You'll set it to japanese, save exit, come back and, iirc, i think it'll say it's in japanese, but if you play it it is clearly english or something like that. I haven't looked into it in about a year, mainly because i get a low frame rate on my computer, too.
Posted February 12, 2018
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MarkoH01: Are you sure. I set voice acting in Hyperdimension Neptunia to Japanese and did not have any problems with the settings.
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kohlrak: Unless it updated. The settings don't like to save right or something. You'll set it to japanese, save exit, come back and, iirc, i think it'll say it's in japanese, but if you play it it is clearly english or something like that. I haven't looked into it in about a year, mainly because i get a low frame rate on my computer, too.
Just tried it. It shows English in the config after returning to the game a second time but it's still set to Japanese and the voices stay Japanese.
Posted February 13, 2018
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MarkoH01: Yes, that is still the case. As long as at least ONE person uses the client the other can see which game he is playing or if he is online.
Thought so. I do consider this a privacy issue, plus an annoyance when I'm simply using my chat on the site, but apparently I'm in the minority.
Posted February 13, 2018
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kohlrak: Unless it updated. The settings don't like to save right or something. You'll set it to japanese, save exit, come back and, iirc, i think it'll say it's in japanese, but if you play it it is clearly english or something like that. I haven't looked into it in about a year, mainly because i get a low frame rate on my computer, too.
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MarkoH01: Just tried it. It shows English in the config after returning to the game a second time but it's still set to Japanese and the voices stay Japanese.
It must've gotten fixed, then. I tried to look for the changelog, but it seems that changelogs are being removed from the website or something.
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MarkoH01: Yes, that is still the case. As long as at least ONE person uses the client the other can see which game he is playing or if he is online.
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HypersomniacLive: Thought so. I do consider this a privacy issue, plus an annoyance when I'm simply using my chat on the site, but apparently I'm in the minority.
It only happens if you're using the galaxy client, so it's a feature of the client. If you're not, it won't do it for you, as we tested earlier.
Post edited February 13, 2018 by kohlrak
Posted February 16, 2018
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kohlrak: [...]
It only happens if you're using the galaxy client, so it's a feature of the client. If you're not, it won't do it for you, as we tested earlier.
Emm... I'm fully aware of this, did you miss my post?
Posted February 16, 2018
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kohlrak: [...]
It only happens if you're using the galaxy client, so it's a feature of the client. If you're not, it won't do it for you, as we tested earlier.
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HypersomniacLive: Emm... I'm fully aware of this, did you miss my post?
i was responding to the other dude.

EDIT: Nvm, yeah, i did miss that message. From the beginning.
Post edited February 16, 2018 by kohlrak
Posted February 21, 2018
Sent this today as part of the same open ticket.
Hello.
it has been a few weeks. <Support Staff Name> was talking to me about having faith in GOG that things are moving in the right direction. We were having a great discussion about GOG features and new additions, and how my bad experiences weren't representative of the GOG experience, and I shouldn't base my bad feelings on things like the forum, which is ancillary or GOGmixes, which are obsolete, and instead look at all the good things GOG is doing. I admitted that GOG is doing a lot of good things, but to say my bad experiences with those "ancillary" or other parts of the experience are not as important as the main function of the site is just not great. So to shit the angle of looking at things, I asked about bad experiences simply from the side of the site that is purchasing and using games. I asked about games that don't receive updates despite the updates being available on other sites. I asked about the abysmal support of Linux here when games have Linux ports available on Steam or Humble. I asked about lingering problems in games and broken promises like upgrade paths for Pillars of Eternity (soon™, right?) or the problem with F.E.A.R. wherein the solution was "don't click on the multiplayer, it doesn't work anyway". It took a LONG time to just remove the MP.exe from the game's installer. I asked about several issues, not to instigate or attack, but because I was told that everything was great on the front of the "primary functions" of the website.

I felt like we were getting somewhere, and then radio silence for an extended period of time. GOG wants me to have faith in them, you want me to believe in you and continue spending my money here rather than Steam or Humble. You tell me that You're doing great things and to have faith. Then you treat the conversations like the aforementioned GOGmixes and quietly abandon it once challenged that it's not as sun-shiney and rainbow-ey as you'd make out. Again, I'm not trying to instigate or antagonize. I'm not looking for concrete answers that I know you'd never give for good sound legal reasons. I'm asking for general answers and acknowledgement that perhaps you have overlooked things. I'm looking for a reason to say "you still deserve my money." I don't know if you were hoping I'd forget about this conversation and that it would silently fade away, but that hasn't and won't happen. If you want to close the ticket and ignore me, fine. I'm a displeased customer, and I'm displeased with your site and its management. Shutting me down after at least taking the time to try and talk with me isn't the least reasonable thing you could do.

But I would like a response before you do. The response can be simple, "I can't talk about that, please just continue to hold on" or something to let me know you're still interested in the appearance of civil discourse. I think I've been fair, and no you don't OWE me anything. But I do think I deserve the human courtesy of acknowledgement and not just being ignored when I ask a question, or a slew of questions in this case. I thank you for your time.

Regards,
paladin181
Posted February 21, 2018
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paladin181: Sent this today as part of the same open ticket.

Hello.
it has been a few weeks. <Support Staff Name> was talking to me about having faith in GOG that things are moving in the right direction. We were having a great discussion about GOG features and new additions, and how my bad experiences weren't representative of the GOG experience, and I shouldn't base my bad feelings on things like the forum, which is ancillary or GOGmixes, which are obsolete, and instead look at all the good things GOG is doing. I admitted that GOG is doing a lot of good things, but to say my bad experiences with those "ancillary" or other parts of the experience are not as important as the main function of the site is just not great. So to shit the angle of looking at things, I asked about bad experiences simply from the side of the site that is purchasing and using games. I asked about games that don't receive updates despite the updates being available on other sites. I asked about the abysmal support of Linux here when games have Linux ports available on Steam or Humble. I asked about lingering problems in games and broken promises like upgrade paths for Pillars of Eternity (soon™, right?) or the problem with F.E.A.R. wherein the solution was "don't click on the multiplayer, it doesn't work anyway". It took a LONG time to just remove the MP.exe from the game's installer. I asked about several issues, not to instigate or attack, but because I was told that everything was great on the front of the "primary functions" of the website.

I felt like we were getting somewhere, and then radio silence for an extended period of time. GOG wants me to have faith in them, you want me to believe in you and continue spending my money here rather than Steam or Humble. You tell me that You're doing great things and to have faith. Then you treat the conversations like the aforementioned GOGmixes and quietly abandon it once challenged that it's not as sun-shiney and rainbow-ey as you'd make out. Again, I'm not trying to instigate or antagonize. I'm not looking for concrete answers that I know you'd never give for good sound legal reasons. I'm asking for general answers and acknowledgement that perhaps you have overlooked things. I'm looking for a reason to say "you still deserve my money." I don't know if you were hoping I'd forget about this conversation and that it would silently fade away, but that hasn't and won't happen. If you want to close the ticket and ignore me, fine. I'm a displeased customer, and I'm displeased with your site and its management. Shutting me down after at least taking the time to try and talk with me isn't the least reasonable thing you could do.

But I would like a response before you do. The response can be simple, "I can't talk about that, please just continue to hold on" or something to let me know you're still interested in the appearance of civil discourse. I think I've been fair, and no you don't OWE me anything. But I do think I deserve the human courtesy of acknowledgement and not just being ignored when I ask a question, or a slew of questions in this case. I thank you for your time.

Regards,
paladin181
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paladin181:
If you'd like, if you have a more private medium, I can tell you what i found out. Just not on anything gog owned. Skype, facebook, or email will do.

EDIT: Or teamspeak if necessary.
Post edited February 21, 2018 by kohlrak
Posted February 21, 2018
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kohlrak: If you'd like, if you have a more private medium, I can tell you what i found out. Just not on anything gog owned. Skype, facebook, or email will do.

EDIT: Or teamspeak if necessary.
That bad, eh?
Posted February 21, 2018
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kohlrak: If you'd like, if you have a more private medium, I can tell you what i found out. Just not on anything gog owned. Skype, facebook, or email will do.

EDIT: Or teamspeak if necessary.
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richlind33: That bad, eh?
Not particularly bad, but i'm more worried about protecting where i got the information from, just incase there's a non-disclosure agreement that might've been violated. The information I got was from a source very positive of GOG, but the information, in conjunction with everything else we know, ends up painting things in a not-so-positive light. There's still a few things we don't know, and if we did, we'd have a pretty accurate picture on how to handle GOG. Let's just say that none of it was particularly surprising, but it is something that's right under our noses, yet we straight up cannot see it, still. The biggest questions of all comes down to whether or not there is an NDA and how much weight galaxy support has on whether or not a game and/or update lands on GOG. Those two questions are still unanswered, and that's what we really need answers to.

EDIT: To be clear, at this point i think GOG does have the best intentions, but the road to Hell is paved with the best intentions, and I'm not really sure if GOG isn't ultimately compromising in ways that we wouldn't be comfortable with, and to the degree that they're pushing certain devs away that are on our side of certain decisions.
Post edited February 21, 2018 by kohlrak
Posted February 21, 2018
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paladin181: I asked about games that don't receive updates despite the updates being available on other sites. I asked about the abysmal support of Linux here when games have Linux ports available on Steam or Humble. I asked about lingering problems in games and broken promises like upgrade paths for Pillars of Eternity (soon™, right?) or the problem with F.E.A.R. wherein the solution was "don't click on the multiplayer, it doesn't work anyway". It took a LONG time to just remove the MP.exe from the game's installer.
Frankly, at this point you start sounding like my ex-wife, who'd come with a slew of complaints "why don't you ever...?". She wasn't really interested in my answers either, if I gave an answer, she'd instantly move the argument to another "problem".

You mention the "F.E.A.R. problem" that apparently they even fixed (if it was really an important problem to begin with), but you are still angry about it as you apparently feel it took too long to fix. Never content?

What kind of answers are you expecting anyway for all those questions you threw at them? Many of them most probably don't even have a single answer, sometimes it may be up to the publisher, sometimes GOG, sometimes both, sometimes neither. Plus, if it is about relationship or communication between a certain publisher and GOG, do you really expect GOG to disclose that information to you?

Sometimes divorce is the only solution, you know? If I were as angry towards GOG as you appear to be, I'd be out of here already.

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kohlrak: EDIT: To be clear, at this point i think GOG does have the best intentions, but the road to Hell is paved with the best intentions, and I'm not really sure if GOG isn't ultimately compromising in ways that we wouldn't be comfortable with, and to the degree that they're pushing certain devs away that are on our side of certain decisions.
Who is this "we"? Without knowing what you are suggesting (smoke and mirrors), different people have different expectations for the games and services they buy here. A Linux user is angry because the GOG version is missing a Linux version, a German user is angry because the GOG version is missing a German version, an Indonesian user is angry because Steam offers lower prices in his region, a Galaxy user is angry because the GOG version is missing achievements... yet I personally couldn't care rat's ass about those shortcomings.

EDIT: And before someone suggests so, no I am not saying one shouldn't complain to GOG about what they feel as shortcomings, letting them know that you are thinking of taking your business elsewhere because of the problems. For instance, I think this is a very good and important GOGMix:

https://www.gog.com/mix/games_that_treat_gog_customers_as_second_class_citizens

(I personally skip the entries which are about a missing Linux or Mac or German version, or that the base price of a game is lower somewhere else, or the game is missing multiplayer, as those are non-issues to me personally. But still good information for those who care about such things.)

But this particular discussion has already went elsewhere, feeling more like complaining just for the sake of complaining.
Post edited February 21, 2018 by timppu
Posted February 21, 2018
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timppu: Meh. For some reason I don't get as excited about some forum bugs, at least so much that I'd leave the whole site (meaning also the store) for them.

Yeah the "no new thread posted"-problem is a new one and a stupid one, but as long as I know the workaround, I personally am fine (ie. the thread does appear, even though you never seem to exit the edit window; just close the editing window and refresh your browser view, yep there it is).

But to each his own, your mileage may vary, etc.
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paladin181: That did not work. I know how to do that, but no thread was posted today. I only posted one, despite trying multiple attempts to do so. It's the first time that's happened to me, and I don't know what it is. I suspect that GOG can no longer parse certain punctuation, but that's just a guess.
By the way, was this posting problem, which started this whole complaint thread, fixed already? I am asking because I posted a new thread about Sylvester Stallone's fake death a couple of days ago without any issues.

I just find it kind of ironic if GOG has silently fixed the problem which started this thread, but the thread just keeps going... Yeah GOG still "does not care", even though they fix problems.
Post edited February 21, 2018 by timppu
Posted February 21, 2018
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kohlrak: EDIT: To be clear, at this point i think GOG does have the best intentions, but the road to Hell is paved with the best intentions, and I'm not really sure if GOG isn't ultimately compromising in ways that we wouldn't be comfortable with, and to the degree that they're pushing certain devs away that are on our side of certain decisions.
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timppu: Who is this "we"? Without knowing what you are suggesting (smoke and mirrors), different people have different expectations for the games and services they buy here. A Linux user is angry because the GOG version is missing a Linux version, a German user is angry because the GOG version is missing a German version, an Indonesian user is angry because Steam offers lower prices in his region, a Galaxy user is angry because the GOG version is missing achievements... yet I personally couldn't care rat's ass about those shortcomings.
I'm not really suggesting anything specific. The point is, we lack certain bits of information. There are thing we should know, but do not know. From my understanding, that's the very point of this thread. There comes a time when one has to question the silence of those they trust: can they be trusted in the years ahead? Their lack of answers is, frankly, suspicious.

Personally, i think it might be DRM they're caving on, but I have no proof. I'd like to get some, or perhaps some proper evidence to the contrary. However all we keep getting is angry devs pointing the fingers at gog and gog pointing the fingers at the devs, and both sides basically saying "we just can't talk about it." Why not? Why can't we talk about it? Why can't we get some answers, finally?
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