Kardwill: Aaah, Daggerfall. I remember jumping right through the roof of a dungeon, and then walking "on the roof", with the dungeon layout twisting like a snake around me. A pecular experience. Happened quite a lot, too. ^^

Kardwill: Never finished this game. Not because of the bugs (I was used to them), but because I misplaced a quest item (some scarab, I think?), and never knew where I put it (I may have sold it to some random merchant? Dunno.)

timppu: I'm playing Daggerfall, which was always known for its bugs. But this is the "setup_en" version which is supposed to have all kinds of fixes, both official and unofficial. I gather it is the most bug-free version of the game out there currently.

So far it has worked fine, but when I reached the quest where I am supposed to deliver a letter from the Weyfair (sp?) princess to the King of Worms or somesuch, in that particular dungeon there are stairs with quite high steps. The thing is, when I try to climb those stairs, I always fall through them to an empty space, outside the game area.

The only way I can prevent that from happening is to use the Levitate spell and fly (with PageUp) over the stairs to the exit. If I hadn't had the Levitate spell at that point, I guess it would have been Game Over for me because I couldn't have made it out of the dungeon.

It seems now I constantly have that problem with those bigger stairs, in other dungeons too. There are also smaller stairs where this issue doesn't occur. Oh well, at least I can play the game, I just need to keep casting that Levitate spell.

Otherwise I am actually enjoying the game somewhat now. The only (gameplay mechanism) things that irritate me are:

- The automap is useless in dungeons. It is very hard and complicated to use it for navigation, so usually I just run around blindly in dungeons until I find my objective or the exit, usually by that time I start to learn the dungeon by heart (without a map). This has worked so far, hopefully the dungeons will not get increasingly bigger. Fortunately also monster respawn in this game seems minimal; if the monsters kept respawning as much as in the earlier TES Arena game, I would have probably stopped playing the game already (In Arena, navigation in dungeons was easier because they were pretty much 2D (apart from some underway passages), but then there was that damn respawning...).

- I am unsure why the game needs to have so many different skills. Etiquette? Really? Sometimes less is more, I think the game would be better with less skills, many current skills could be combined together I think. It is silly to have that many (also non-combat) skills as most of the gameplay still seems to rely on combat. It is as if the game has separate skills for using a fork, spoon and a toothbrush, and you need to practice all of them separately. Wheee!

timppu: So, whenever I am in a dungeon and reach whatever I came there for, I save the game, load the game, and Alt-F11 to exit the dungeon? No need to try to find my way back to the dungeon exit, or use that Teleport beacon spell/thingie that I see some also mentioning?

I presume this is the latest version of the game, and then some.

timppu: Another one I've noticed that if I run stairs up and jump constantly (I do those all the time in order to improve my running and jumping skills), at the end of the stairs I make some kind of mega jump, flying dozens of meters in the air. Itsa me, Maaario!

The same sometimes seems to happen if I merely climb some small obstacle (e.g. the side of a coffin, in order to climb inside) and press jump at the same time, sometimes I end up in the ceiling, and seem to remain there for awhile until I move forward somewhat.

timppu: I almost failed the main campaign already in that same "bring the letter from the princess to the King of the Worms" quest. When I got back to the princess, she wouldn't speak to me, and the letter from the KotW had disappeared from the inventory.

First I thought it was a bug, but googling for it, many had had the same problem, and it was simply because I didn't meet the 30 day limit for the quest even though I started it as soon as I got the quest, and got back as soon as I was done.

The thing was, my fast travel was set to "cautious mode", which meant that I pretty much wasted that 30 days for traveling to the dungeon and back to the princess. It just didn't occur to me that the quest time could accidentally be wasted on the travels. Also I read somewhere that if you fail that particular quest, then you fail the whole main campaign.

Fortunately I have a habit of keeping one save game before taking a new quest, so I had to do the quest again from that, and just use "reckless mode" for fast travel. Fortunately the quest was very easy and fast to perform once you knew where the King of the Worms is in the dungeon. At first I searched the whole dungeon fighting countless fights (including quite hard pink vampires), but the second time I think I had to fight only two zombies and a couple of bats before reaching the King.

tinyE: The constant crashing of Desperados. Technically you can play the game through but it takes a special person to survive having to reload every five minutes without blowing their brains out. :P

phaolo: Are those really major bugs? That AI was quite normal back then.
About the rest, I didn't notice anything gamebreaking on normal.. O_ophaolo: WUT? :O

CARRiON.FLOWERS: Ever come across a game you highly enjoy, but your enjoyment gets ruined by major bugs or reoccurring glitches?

CARRiON.FLOWERS: Are you the type of person to play games on easy? Did you try to play Blood on easy, saved, came back and suddenly you got your ass kicked?

skeletonbow: Not really, I generally play all FPS games on the hardest setting by default