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Nirth: The important question here is: Do you want to relieve your conscience (reason for creating the thread?) or do you want to protect children?

If it's only the former then don't bother with the latter. If it's the latter, I'm sure you can figure something out. Everything from volunteer work, becoming a politician, a lobbyist or trying your hands at business where you have a good skill and then use the money to help children.
I will reply to your post along with the one below.

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Trilarion: I have to admit that for me it's not the first time I'm afraid of something real. Growing up in cold war living at the border between two ideological blocks I knew that in the event of a nuclear holocaust I and everyone I know would be among the first to die. I basically lived in constant fear for a long time of my life.

Regarding help. You probably know some things do do. You live in the US - I guess. Laws are made by the Congress. So speak with your local representative, join a party, make politics work, create an interest group who lobbies for your interest, participate in protests. That would be the usual way.

Now for transgender people, they are quite a minority, estimated to be only about 0.3% of the population. Also in general they have quite a lot of problems in life, not really fitting in any of the sexes. I have rather pity with them and believe them that they genuinely feel like the opposite sex of what they were naturally equipped with. It can happen. In the end what you think you are is the most important thing of all.

The problem I see is that pedophiles (many men but also some women) can exploit this and pose as transgender to get access to the other sexes facilities. This is foremost a practical problem but I don't know how to solve that adequately currently.

I would say that the most important rule should be: No adults (of any sex) in public childrens showers/toilets at all, unless it's the parents of the kids. So the swimming pool could maybe designate some showers with special signs only for kids during swimming teaching hours and they must be respected of course.

Hope a solution will be found that restores your peace of mind and that allows maximum security and happiness for all including transgender people. It's not easy - that much is clear.
The problem is, I am NOT a US citizen, and therefore I have absolutely no voice regarding the issues over there.

This thread is simply a yell in a random direction. I've done this everywhere I can, exactly because I do not know of any real solution & I'm just hoping that these desperate cries can reach an ear somewhere, somehow, that knows how to at least set things in motion.

I do like your solution of separate areas for kids inside public locker rooms & since they're a much larger percentage of the population than the trans people, I wonder why their needs are not being met first.

Trilarion, your post is very well thought out, and I thank you for expressing your opinion in this thread.
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Lord_Kane: You know what is hard, is I want to post, I want to share my opinions, but I dont know how to air them, I want to say something to op.

These threads always result in brutal flame wars.
Please do.

I don't know if you're afraid of me or the Social Justice Warriors, since you haven't expressed your opinion yet, but either way, you shouldn't be afraid of doing so.

Everyone has a right to expressing their points of view... even if SJWs abuse that right with follow-up coordinate attacks & public shaming of everyone who bleats even slightly off-key.

We can't allow these people to continue raking up victories by keeping our mouths closed. Pretty soon they'll move on to crucifying people on the streets.
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Dalthnock: The problem is, I am NOT a US citizen, and therefore I have absolutely no voice regarding the issues over there
Your OP mentioned the "NYC parks department", which likely led people (me included) to think New York City. If you live there but are from some other nation then I would think you still have a bit of a voice - as one paying taxes. Can't hurt to try expressing your concerns at a local gov't level. Hillary adopted New York for political gain, so why shouldn't you? : )
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Dalthnock: The problem is, I am NOT a US citizen, and therefore I have absolutely no voice regarding the issues over there.

This thread is simply a yell in a random direction. I've done this everywhere I can, exactly because I do not know of any real solution & I'm just hoping that these desperate cries can reach an ear somewhere, somehow, that knows how to at least set things in motion.
Maybe you should take a look at this article, which explains how one school dealt with the issue:
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Starmaker: As for adult trans people in bathrooms, testerical alarmists have their panties in a completely misaimed twist. Statistics show that, among classes of strangers, priests present the highest danger to children's sexual autonomy, and if there's a well-populated subclass among bathroom pervs in the US it's Republican politicians. So, dear conservatives, while the Kenyan Usurper crams trans rights down your throats, you're welcome to shove your bibles up the other end.
In case you're interested, I abhor any type of organized religion. I do not like it one little bit. And that is all I'm going to say on the subject.

I also don't like you. I won't insult you by calling you childish names, but I will be very blunt explaining why that is. Do note that this post is not directed at anyone else here that may take your side in this discussion.

And this post is not made in anger. This is my personal evaluation of the personality that you openly displayed in this thread.

Your initial post attacking me out of nowhere & accusing me of being a paedophile by quoting one of my posts that contradicts that claim is one reason why.

The other is that I find your points of view to be remarkably far from reality, your incredible interpretation of the post you quoted being a very good evidence of this.

They are also self-centred, appallingly narrow-minded, utterly selfish & absolutely disgusting. I also believe you do not have one original thought in your head. You may bleat louder & more aggressively than the other sheep, but you bleat the exact same crap.

Your "empathy" seems to be directed only towards your self-serving needs & the "victim of the week", which currently are trans-gendered people. I have no doubt that after people tire of playing with transgenders & move on to another victim of society, you'll follow suit & forget all about trans people.

The only reason I am addressing you is to tell you to stop trying to make this about religion, as that is a whole other can on worms that I will not open in a gaming forum.

Allow me to part ways with one question... when you're alone, do the thoughts in your head frighten you?
Post edited May 24, 2016 by Dalthnock
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Dalthnock: Allow me to part ways with one question... when you're alone, do the thoughts in your head frighten you?
When I'm alone, the heads in my thoughts frighten me! oO
Sometimes the voices in my head get so loud the neighbors start to complain.
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Dalthnock: The problem is, I am NOT a US citizen, and therefore I have absolutely no voice regarding the issues over there
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HereForTheBeer: Your OP mentioned the "NYC parks department", which likely led people (me included) to think New York City. If you live there but are from some other nation then I would think you still have a bit of a voice - as one paying taxes. Can't hurt to try expressing your concerns at a local gov't level. Hillary adopted New York for political gain, so why shouldn't you? : )
Yeah, that was a poorly quoted, uh, quote. From someone else. I don't know how to use this software very well. Maybe I should take the time to learn it.

I don't live in the US. I don't even have that voice.

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dtgreene: Maybe you should take a look at this article, which explains how one school dealt with the issue:
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dtgreene:
Thank you for the link. I tried reading it, but it reads remarkably like propaganda, so I wasn't able to finish it.

I think this thread may have run its course, as the people who were likely to read it have probably already done so.

I was also unusually active in the first few pages because I was trying to stop anyone from deviating the topic from child safety to other personal agendas that are related with this law. In that, at least, I seem to have succeeded somewhat.

Other derails are perfectly fine, as long as they veer completely off the issue.

I will tell a relevant anecdote that happened just yesterday & I might just move away from the issue completely, unless someone brings up good points worth discussing. The topic has been raised & discussed. That was my sole intention.
Post edited May 24, 2016 by Dalthnock
Just yesterday, my 5 year old nephew decided he'd jump off his bedroom window to the street. It's a ground floor window & he can easily jump from that height. The problem was that a car could be passing at that moment.

Why did he do it? Because he's 5 & it was a dare with his older sister. Not that his sister dared him. He just dares himself some times. So he hopped on to the window & his sister managed to hold on to his legs & started screaming for help, completely desperate, because the little brat is as strong as a small ox.

Later that day, I asked him what the hell was he thinking when he decided to do that. His reply was a very simple "I wanted to bust my head open."

Now, since I'm a backwards, intolerant, stupid relic that was raised in a savage era of unfairness, when everybody had to shape up & stop whining, I took that reply as a sarcastic wiseass crack.

Unfortunately the poor repressed little child doesn't have a progressive, modern-thinking, social justice family, so his head remained completely uncracked.

I'm sure that if the world was a fairer place, he'd've been born in a household that would unquestioningly support his decision of cracking his head open & would proceed to find a medical doctor willing to do so, so that the child could live his life the way he chose, head cracked open, because we all know that the decisions we made when we were 5 are the decisions that we lived with ever since.

Children are obviously wise, prescient & far-seeing enough to know who they are or will be, even at the age of 7, like stated so many times by some people in this thread, so parents should immediately support a sex change, if that's what the child wants. Because there's no way they're going to change their minds later, or anything.

I can't wait - that is bitter, acidic sarcasm, in case you need it explained - for the "trans children" of today to grow up to be adults & ask their parents "Why did you do it? Why did you allow my mutilation?"

To which of course, the reply will be "That's what you wanted when you were 7. Don't you remember? We were only trying to be supportive of your choices."

There are mentally ill people everywhere, but in the US, instead of being confined to places of treatment, they are allowed to roam free to spread their disease to the weak-willed majority of the population.

There are no such thing as trans children! And all you people in this thread who are enabling a child's passing whim, sometimes of your own sons & daughters, just so you can brag to the other perpetually inebriated soccer moms & their beta, emasculated husbands that your child "is trans" & aren't you the progressive parent?

You are using children as playthings & instruments for your own personal, fleeting vanities & you don't give a shit how all your pathetic attention whoring will mentally scar the child for the rest of "its" life.

But hey, I'm backwards & intolerant. You're progressive & tolerant. Yeah, you're the pinnacle of humanity.
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Dalthnock: Just yesterday, my 5 year old nephew decided he'd jump off his bedroom window to the street.
And you have nerve to criticize how we act? :P
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Dalthnock: Just yesterday, my 5 year old nephew decided he'd jump off his bedroom window to the street. It's a ground floor window & he can easily jump from that height. The problem was that a car could be passing at that moment.
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tinyE: And you have nerve to criticize how we act? :P
Stop being a wiseass & read the rest. There's no way you had time to read more than that single sentence.

But I shouldn't be surprised... you also dismissed my other post because it came from a news outlet you don't like AND also dismissed the fact that the study hadn't been made by them.

Again you continue your Social Justice Crusade by quoting things out of context & burying your head in the sand when presented with facts.

Just as long as reality doesn't penetrate your fantasy bubble, everything goes, right?
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tinyE: And you have nerve to criticize how we act? :P
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Dalthnock: Just as long as reality doesn't penetrate your fantasy bubble, everything goes, right?
I'm a cancer survivor butthead so take your fantasy bubble crap and shove it.
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Dalthnock: There are no such thing as trans children!
*WRONG!*
(Is there a way to put even more emphasis on that?)

Trans children do, in fact exist.

The American Academy of Pediatrics agrees with me. One very important quote from that page:

Research has shown that supportive families greatly reduce a teen's risk of suicide.
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dtgreene: One very important quote from that page:

Research has shown that supportive families greatly reduce a teen's risk of suicide.
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dtgreene:
I'll agree with that quote. But you do know it's very possible for stupid people to take things way too far, don't you?

If an emotionally stable teen begins to suspect he or she might be trans, then I'm all for supporting it.

And if that turns out to be what they do want, then go for it. Fine.

But never at a young age.

There's a huge difference between denying teens everything they want, especially when they are already able to make their own choices & immediately acting upon a little child's every whim, even if the results are invariably the same - eventually tragic.

So all I'm saying is, exercise some judgement for the very young children who are obviously incapable of doing it themselves.
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tinyE: I'm a cancer survivor butthead so take your fantasy bubble crap and shove it.
I'm so sorry for my backlash at your attempt at making me look bad.
Post edited May 24, 2016 by Dalthnock
*ahem* *cough cough*

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/05/24/texas-police-identify-man-accused-filming-girl-target-bathroom/

"It'll never happen..."
<i>Editor&rsquo;s Note: This article has been updated.</i>