Posted May 24, 2016
Nirth: The important question here is: Do you want to relieve your conscience (reason for creating the thread?) or do you want to protect children?
If it's only the former then don't bother with the latter. If it's the latter, I'm sure you can figure something out. Everything from volunteer work, becoming a politician, a lobbyist or trying your hands at business where you have a good skill and then use the money to help children.
I will reply to your post along with the one below. If it's only the former then don't bother with the latter. If it's the latter, I'm sure you can figure something out. Everything from volunteer work, becoming a politician, a lobbyist or trying your hands at business where you have a good skill and then use the money to help children.
Trilarion: I have to admit that for me it's not the first time I'm afraid of something real. Growing up in cold war living at the border between two ideological blocks I knew that in the event of a nuclear holocaust I and everyone I know would be among the first to die. I basically lived in constant fear for a long time of my life.
Regarding help. You probably know some things do do. You live in the US - I guess. Laws are made by the Congress. So speak with your local representative, join a party, make politics work, create an interest group who lobbies for your interest, participate in protests. That would be the usual way.
Now for transgender people, they are quite a minority, estimated to be only about 0.3% of the population. Also in general they have quite a lot of problems in life, not really fitting in any of the sexes. I have rather pity with them and believe them that they genuinely feel like the opposite sex of what they were naturally equipped with. It can happen. In the end what you think you are is the most important thing of all.
The problem I see is that pedophiles (many men but also some women) can exploit this and pose as transgender to get access to the other sexes facilities. This is foremost a practical problem but I don't know how to solve that adequately currently.
I would say that the most important rule should be: No adults (of any sex) in public childrens showers/toilets at all, unless it's the parents of the kids. So the swimming pool could maybe designate some showers with special signs only for kids during swimming teaching hours and they must be respected of course.
Hope a solution will be found that restores your peace of mind and that allows maximum security and happiness for all including transgender people. It's not easy - that much is clear.
The problem is, I am NOT a US citizen, and therefore I have absolutely no voice regarding the issues over there. Regarding help. You probably know some things do do. You live in the US - I guess. Laws are made by the Congress. So speak with your local representative, join a party, make politics work, create an interest group who lobbies for your interest, participate in protests. That would be the usual way.
Now for transgender people, they are quite a minority, estimated to be only about 0.3% of the population. Also in general they have quite a lot of problems in life, not really fitting in any of the sexes. I have rather pity with them and believe them that they genuinely feel like the opposite sex of what they were naturally equipped with. It can happen. In the end what you think you are is the most important thing of all.
The problem I see is that pedophiles (many men but also some women) can exploit this and pose as transgender to get access to the other sexes facilities. This is foremost a practical problem but I don't know how to solve that adequately currently.
I would say that the most important rule should be: No adults (of any sex) in public childrens showers/toilets at all, unless it's the parents of the kids. So the swimming pool could maybe designate some showers with special signs only for kids during swimming teaching hours and they must be respected of course.
Hope a solution will be found that restores your peace of mind and that allows maximum security and happiness for all including transgender people. It's not easy - that much is clear.
This thread is simply a yell in a random direction. I've done this everywhere I can, exactly because I do not know of any real solution & I'm just hoping that these desperate cries can reach an ear somewhere, somehow, that knows how to at least set things in motion.
I do like your solution of separate areas for kids inside public locker rooms & since they're a much larger percentage of the population than the trans people, I wonder why their needs are not being met first.
Trilarion, your post is very well thought out, and I thank you for expressing your opinion in this thread.
Lord_Kane: You know what is hard, is I want to post, I want to share my opinions, but I dont know how to air them, I want to say something to op.
These threads always result in brutal flame wars.
Please do. These threads always result in brutal flame wars.
I don't know if you're afraid of me or the Social Justice Warriors, since you haven't expressed your opinion yet, but either way, you shouldn't be afraid of doing so.
Everyone has a right to expressing their points of view... even if SJWs abuse that right with follow-up coordinate attacks & public shaming of everyone who bleats even slightly off-key.
We can't allow these people to continue raking up victories by keeping our mouths closed. Pretty soon they'll move on to crucifying people on the streets.
Post edited May 24, 2016 by Dalthnock