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For the first time in my life, I am afraid of something real.

I am talking about the US toilet laws. I fear they will be accepted & they will spread.

Not because I'm transphobic, or whatever the new hip slur is. In fact, I have absolutely no reason to be transphobic & many, many reasons NOT to be. Trust me on this.

It's because of the children that rae being thrown to the hyenas just so the "grown ups" can feel good about themselves.

The laws are still being disputed & already there has already been at least one case of assault, of course not widely reported by the media.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-chokes-8-year-old-girl-in-south-loop-bathroom-police-say/1336656/

There's also been a testimony that several children were out in an extreme awkward position by a middle-aged man.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/targeting-target/

"I’ve been reading your thoughts on the whole transgender debacle this year and notice that in your threads and the comments it’s all been theoretical for you and your readers, including me. Until today.

My 14 year-old daughter is on a swim team with the NYC parks department where she practices at one of the public indoor pools. She is one of the older kids, with the youngest teammate a 7 year old. Today she informed us that just as she finished getting dressed after practice, a middle-aged man came out of the showers. He had a towel on so she couldn’t confirm if any surgery had been done (now there’s a conversation I never thought I’d be having with my kid) but besides his very large, breast-less male body type, bald head and mens’ shoes he was putting on, there was no question in her mind that he was a man. And she observed that the younger girls (remember, one’s a 7 year old girl) were staring with concerned expressions.

Everyone keeps going on about school bathrooms where kids are all the same age and how it should be no big deal. Have any of the politicians considered this particular scenario? Are the De Blasios and Clintons of the world going to be able to assure parents that their children will be safe in public locker rooms now? Is Mitchell Silver, the commissioner of the Parks Department, confident that a 7 year-old girl will not be adversely affected by the sight of a naked male stranger while she, too, stands naked and at her most vulnerable?"

So, children's rights are worthless/worth LESS than 0.3% of the population? What kind of cesspit are we turning the world into?

I don't know what to do. I don't know who to contact, or how to have my voice heard. I have never cared about politics. But right now, politics is putting children in immediate danger. We're sacrificing our young in the name of "tolerance".

If any of you knows somebody or has a way to have your voice heard, please I beg you - do something, or HELP ME do something.
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I should point out a few things:

1. In the example quoted, consider the possibility that said middle-aged man is a trans man. In this case, a law that requires people to use the dressing room appropriate to their birth assigned sex would force him into the women's room. Is this really what you want?

2. In bathrooms, how often do you see somebody naked? Seriously, how often does that happen? (It happens even less in the women's room because there are no urinals there, and the stalls are closed off.)

3. Laws and policies that allow people to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as would not allow people to sexually harass people in the bathroom. Also, I note that transgender people harassing other people in the bathroom simply does not happen; you are far more likely to see the transgender person on the receiving end. (It's also worth noting that clergy and Republican politicians are far more likely to be sex offenders than transgender people. Should clergy and Republican politicians be required to use separate bathrooms?)

4. Finally, I should point out that transgender children exist. They, too, deserve equal rights.
This should be fun. XD
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My local watering hole has solved the problem....
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Zoltan999: My local watering hole has solved the problem....
I only have ball.
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Zoltan999: My local watering hole has solved the problem....
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tinyE: I only have ball.
That's okay if you remember to tag along your ass.

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I'll just leave this here:
'The Daily Show - The Trans Panic Epidemic'.
Post edited May 21, 2016 by Lemon_Curry
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Zoltan999: My local watering hole has solved the problem....
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tinyE: I only have ball.
I recommend while standing at the urinal in the "Balls" room, exclaiming out loud while pissing "Hows about them Jets? (or insert any other sport team here)", or using the area behind the dumpster outside
Seriously, lets go back to one toilet, outside, with a crescent moon carved in the door.

END OF PROBLEM.

Not to mention how much water we'd be saving.
Post edited May 21, 2016 by tinyE
You are spreading transphobia by not talking only about the problems of the oppressed minority.
Post edited May 21, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
There's an important hypothetical question worth asking in this situation: would it be a transgender issue if this man had decided to choke a small boy in a male bathroom instead? The barriers to either crime are exactly the same.
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Lemon_Curry: ---

I'll just leave this here:
'The Daily Show - The Trans Panic Epidemic'.
More proof that you just can't fix Stupid...
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Zoltan999: My local watering hole has solved the problem....
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tinyE: I only have ball.
You get to choose then, apparently.

I am hoping for that nice non specified size, gender neutral, unconfirmed origin meteor which will wipe out the whole fecking population.
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tinyE: END OF PROBLEM.
PROLIFERATION OF PROBED MEN.
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a4plz: There's an important hypothetical question worth asking in this situation: would it be a transgender issue if this man had decided to choke a small boy in a male bathroom instead? The barriers to either crime are exactly the same.
There is nothing hypothetical about it, it happens. Transphobic people tend to overlook things like that.
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Guys, this is NOT about trans people.

Please, let's not go there. I too believe that trans people should have every right, including feeling comfortable in a public toilet, which I never have.

But not at the expense of children! What about THEIR rights?

dtgreene, so the rights of the man supersede the rights of every child there? Is that what you're saying? WHY did you turn this thread into a trans issue? What is your agenda?

How do you justify your tolerance by saying that the man has every right to be in a toilet that he feels comfortable while taking away the rights of all the children that were NOT comfortable?

Are middle-aged feelings more important than children's feelings?