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ZyloxDragon: Watch a little bit of the beginning of a blind LP for KOTOR to see if it's your style. The games aren't that difficult to play, it's the storyline that draws you in. KOTOR 2 has a few updates mechanics, but is essentially the same game.

The Dark/ Forces/Jedi Knight series also has a pretty good storyline. Plus you can't go wrong with throwing Stormtroopers off cliffs.

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Lord_Kane: TIE Fighter was my jam.
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ZyloxDragon: Hell yeah! Fly for the Empire! Rebel fighters were no match for an Advanced or Defender.
Defender is my girl, best fighter.
At least GOG drew the line at the star wars game with Galactica Dance Off mode.
Knights of the Old Republic is considered to be among the best RPGs of all time by some, but after my second playthrough with a "Dark Side" character I must strongly disagree. Maybe you'll love it, like so many people apparently do, but in my opinion it has some huge problems, not the least of which being that the story really doesn't make any sense when played with a Dark Side character, and the battles are very basic real-time with pause D&D style with extremely limited tactical elements. Despite the D&D rules, there are really not too many ways to develop the main character. Also, the interface is awful, especially the inventory, and obviously designed with consoles in mind.

But as I said, many people absolutely adore it, and maybe so will you, who knows. I haven't played the second one, yet.
Post edited August 21, 2019 by Pherim
Jedi knight ... & Kotor ... are surely recommended.
Can also recommend Star Wars Republic Commando

Had some fun blowing ships up in Empire at War, ground combat is dull
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faroot: Knights of the Old Republic is legendary...

On the other hand, because it's old, it's only rated 87% on steam more recently. That's still good, but its 2003 graphics do suffer by comparison to modern games. Gog users are more forgiving to old games; it's 5/5 here.
I think it's vastly overrated, and lowering score isn't due to graphics. It's the dull, repetitive, simplified combat mechanics, boring progression of items, absolutely shit errand quests (that are basically mandatory busywork for getting on with the main plot, but not at all in any way related to the main plot) with voice acting and storytelling that makes 13yo kids' backyard live action roleplay look almost decent. Very shallow & cartoonish (even for SW universe) representation of many characters, especially most baddies.

Seriously, the very first guard in the hallway when you step out of your apartment on the first planet is good foreshadowing of what is to come. It's so comical it's not even funny, and yet they manage to outdo that when you come across the group of drunkards/muggers/whatever that are looking to pick a fight or get something out of your wallet. That's when I thought I'd seen the worst of it, but the weirdo tribe looking for a way to the the Promised Land by notebook pages scattered in fucking sewers is so much worse. It's arrrgh, no, I can't take this seriously, and there's just more and more of that as you go on. Sorry, yeah, those are definitely worse than any LARP a group of 13-yo kids in their backyard could come up with :P

I don't see this game holding a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy in any manner. At best, it's a diversion for desperate kids who happen to be Star Wars fans.
Post edited August 21, 2019 by clarry
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faroot: Knights of the Old Republic is legendary...

On the other hand, because it's old, it's only rated 87% on steam more recently. That's still good, but its 2003 graphics do suffer by comparison to modern games. Gog users are more forgiving to old games; it's 5/5 here.
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clarry: I think it's vastly overrated, and lowering score isn't due to graphics. It's the dull, repetitive, simplified combat mechanics, boring progression of items, absolutely shit errand quests [...] voice acting and storytelling that makes 13yo kids' backyard live action roleplay look almost decent. Very shallow & cartoonish [...]

[...] the group of drunkards/muggers/whatever that are looking to pick a fight or get something out of your wallet. That's when I thought I'd seen the worst of it, but the weirdo tribe looking for a way to the the Promised Land [...] definitely worse than any LARP a group of 13-yo kids in their backyard could come up with :P
That was entertaining, thanks for taking the trouble to post that. :)
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faroot: That was entertaining, thanks for taking the trouble to post that. :)
Disclaimer: I participated in LARPs in my classmate's backyard back when I was a teen. It was embarrassing as fuck. :)
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clarry: I think it's vastly overrated, and lowering score isn't due to graphics. It's the dull, repetitive, simplified combat mechanics, boring progression of items, absolutely shit errand quests (that are basically mandatory busywork for getting on with the main plot, but not at all in any way related to the main plot) with voice acting and storytelling that makes 13yo kids' backyard live action roleplay look almost decent. Very shallow & cartoonish (even for SW universe) representation of many characters, especially most baddies.
I think bad voice acting in old RPGs has some kind of charm, just like cheesy fantasy writing. Like bad horror flicks, sometimes you're just in the mood for something cheesy and nothing else will do.

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clarry: I don't see this game holding a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy in any manner. At best, it's a diversion for desperate kids who happen to be Star Wars fans.
It's the only half-decent Star Wars writing we got since the 80's, don't smear it with your nasty accusations that probably has more truth to them than I'm willing to admit. As far as I'm concerned, KotOR can stand tall next to Planescape: Torment without flinching. Not that I could look Planescape: Torment in the eyes and say that, but still.
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clarry: I think it's vastly overrated, and lowering score isn't due to graphics. It's the dull, repetitive, simplified combat mechanics, boring progression of items, absolutely shit errand quests (that are basically mandatory busywork for getting on with the main plot, but not at all in any way related to the main plot) with voice acting and storytelling that makes 13yo kids' backyard live action roleplay look almost decent. Very shallow & cartoonish (even for SW universe) representation of many characters, especially most baddies.

Seriously, the very first guard in the hallway when you step out of your apartment on the first planet is good foreshadowing of what is to come. It's so comical it's not even funny, and yet they manage to outdo that when you come across the group of drunkards/muggers/whatever that are looking to pick a fight or get something out of your wallet. That's when I thought I'd seen the worst of it, but the weirdo tribe looking for a way to the the Promised Land by notebook pages scattered in fucking sewers is so much worse. It's arrrgh, no, I can't take this seriously, and there's just more and more of that as you go on. Sorry, yeah, those are definitely worse than any LARP a group of 13-yo kids in their backyard could come up with :P

I don't see this game holding a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy in any manner. At best, it's a diversion for desperate kids who happen to be Star Wars fans.
Ah, so this is what I sound like to people who love Baldur's Gate.
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clarry: I think it's vastly overrated, and lowering score isn't due to graphics. It's the dull, repetitive, simplified combat mechanics, boring [...]
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Breja: Ah, so this is what I sound like to people who love Baldur's Gate.
(gasp!) You monster!

;)
If you've thought that all Star Wars games were "lame arcade games", you've definitely missed out on a few gems.

Knights of the Old Republic I and II are role-playing games in the classic Bioware style (branching dialog, companions with their own personalities and backstories, lots of interesting locations to explore).

The Jedi Knight series are decent-to-very-good story-driven first-person shooters (or "first-person swingers"... since you can use a lightsaber).

X-Wing, TIE Fighter, X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter and X-Wing Alliance are all very detailed flight simulators (which use darn near every key on your keyboard to control something on your ship).

Rebellion, Galactic Battlegrounds and Empire at War are average-to-good quality real time strategy games. Each has a very distinct feel, but they're definitely RTS games.

Battlefront I and II along with Republic Commando are good tactical / squad-based shooters.

Most of the others in GOG's catalog do have more of a console / arcade feel to them (e.g. Rebel Assault is the very definition of an on-rails shooter). But the ones I listed above are definitely not “arcade-y”, and worth a strong look if you’re into those respective genres.
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andysheets1975: KOTOR is an RPG with some relatively minor arcade elements (using turrets, pod racing). I would say it's a must play if you're a Star Wars fan, maybe not as much a priority if you're not.
KOTOR looked/felt too much like Jade Empire (same engine & devs)
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andysheets1975: I haven't played KOTOR 2 since its initial release and I'm overdue to check it out with the restored content mod, but I remember being somewhat disappointed with it.
The one planet where it's a forest the game keeps crashing, a bit annoying. Needs some fixes probably.

I don't recall getting too far in, though used a save editor to force a NG+ to try and play the earlier portions again after i'd abandoned it a year.
"Star Wars:The Phantom Menace" is a pretty lame game.
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clarry: I don't see this game holding a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy in any manner. At best, it's a diversion for desperate kids who happen to be Star Wars fans.
"I don't like what's popular because it requires one to turn their brain off" ;D

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dudalb: "Star Wars:The Phantom Menace" is a pretty lame game.
I actually liked it a bit....despite it's flaws(no cheats or limited cheats, very linear, some very tought enemies like the shield droids, forest was a bit boring, etc).
Post edited August 22, 2019 by GameRager
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GameRager: "I don't like what's popular because it requires one to turn their brain off" ;D
Clarry may have phrased it a bit harshly, but a somewhat negative view of Kotor (especially the 1st game) isn't all that uncommon, e.g. it's bashed quite heavily over at Rpgcodex. I agree with some of the criticism myself, the gameplay of those games is pretty mediocre, with the combat being fairly primitive and mindnumbingly repetitive (there are very few memorable encounters, mostly you're just fighting random trash mobs over and over). Still worth a playthrough though.
Post edited August 22, 2019 by morolf