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zeroxxx: What's wrong with renting? You're already subscribing to many things already.

There's a reason why this community as a whole is retarded. Disliking Steam for being DRM service is ok, your option, but hating it with a passion to the point of bitching endlessly is a whole different story altogether.
I'm using Steam, i'm not always agree with some there. (after all everyone have its oponions) but insulting the whole community because some people doen't have the same opinions / tastes like yours , is just wrong.

And i beg to differ the whole community here doesn't hate with passion Steam, just some , not the WHOLE community.
Post edited October 27, 2015 by DyNaer
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zeroxxx: You're already subscribing to many things already.
It doesn't justify and it doesn't mean we have to rent everything, especially when renting is used as front for taking away customer control over a product and giving it to private corporates (drm).
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tort1234: Whine about kotor update.
Yes because it's so outrageous to demand that we get an update for a game we've already purchased.
Whine about Witcher 3 prices.
I don't remember ever complaining about Witcher 3 prices.
Whine about ban on video games like GTA 5.
GTA V is banned in Australia? Got any source on that? Only recent game I'm aware of being banned here is Hotline Miami 2.
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Crosmando: GTA V is banned in Australia?
Yes, it's so banned in fact that I managed to just waltz in chat up the lady behind the counter.... Oh and I bought the game while I was at it.
edit: oh and Hatred is too, but not if you bought the game before release date.
I do have a hilarious wishlist entry that seems to be underappreciated. "stop developers abusing GOG versions".
I was trying to gauge how important it is to not be treated like second class folk, and it seems nobody gives a shit as it only has +4.
Post edited October 27, 2015 by micktiegs_8
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Atlantico: Probably because this is a rational person who doesn't want to give money to a glorified DRM rental service?

(one with a disaster of a client to boot and customer service that rivals ISPs in sheer awfulness)
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zeroxxx: What's wrong with renting? You're already subscribing to many things already.

There's a reason why this community as a whole is retarded. Disliking Steam for being DRM service is ok, your option, but hating it with a passion to the point of bitching endlessly is a whole different story altogether.
Nothing wrong with renting, if that's what you want. My preferred renting service is actually Origin. I dislike it slightly less than Steam, myself.

That being said, if people don't want to rent, you respect that.
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zeroxxx: What's wrong with renting? You're already subscribing to many things already.

There's a reason why this community as a whole is retarded. Disliking Steam for being DRM service is ok, your option, but hating it with a passion to the point of bitching endlessly is a whole different story altogether.
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Atlantico: Nothing wrong with renting, if that's what you want. My preferred renting service is actually Origin. I dislike it slightly less than Steam, myself.

That being said, if people don't want to rent, you respect that.
I must say I am a bit surprised. I thought your favorite rental service was gOg...
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Atlantico: Nothing wrong with renting, if that's what you want. My preferred renting service is actually Origin. I dislike it slightly less than Steam, myself.

That being said, if people don't want to rent, you respect that.
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amok: I must say I am a bit surprised. I thought your favorite rental service was gOg...
^ This. GOG is a rental service just as much as Steam, Origin, etc. It's just that they give you more freedom on what you can do with the game you rent. They still work on the same principle though, that you in the end don't actually own the game.
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Atlantico: Nothing wrong with renting, if that's what you want. My preferred renting service is actually Origin. I dislike it slightly less than Steam, myself.

That being said, if people don't want to rent, you respect that.
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amok: I must say I am a bit surprised. I thought your favorite rental service was gOg...
Can't tell if trolling or ignorant. It's one or the other.

The Steam fanatics just can't accept that gog.com can't be compared to the pile of manure that is their favorite object of fellatio. That or they just don't know what they've signed up to when giving their mom's money to Steam.

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amok: I must say I am a bit surprised. I thought your favorite rental service was gOg...
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Prah: ^ This. GOG is a rental service just as much as Steam, Origin, etc.
No, only to people who don't understand or know the terms and conditions of Steam. I use the term "rent" rather loosely, because people who rent things have some rights and recourses. That doesn't actually apply to Steam "rentals".

Steam is somewhere below renting, because I'm being facetious when I call it a rental service. If you think there is a comparison, that just shows you don't know much what you are doing with your money.

Shocking yeah.
Post edited October 27, 2015 by Atlantico
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amok: I must say I am a bit surprised. I thought your favorite rental service was gOg...
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Atlantico: Can't tell if trolling or ignorant. It's one or the other.

The Steam fanatics just can't accept that gog.com can't be compared to the pile of manure that is their favorite object of fellatio. That or they just don't know what they've signed up to when giving their mom's money to Steam.
and I was about to say something about gOg fanatics and knowing your rights... or not knowing what they sign up to when they give their monies to gOg....

edit - and it just struck me how many here denigrates Steam's community, when gOg have so mature posts such as the one above :)
Post edited October 27, 2015 by amok
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darthspudius: How does KOTOR 2 play these days anyway?
Quite good. I recently played it through including some mods who improve the game a lot. The story is still really good, the tension too and the gaming controls sufficient on a PC. The only drawback might be the low resolution textures here and there but for someone like me who doesn't care much about graphical quality, it's still good.

Definitely a lot of fun to play and worth the money but you may see that it is not from recent years graphics wise.

So while I would not dare to compare it to Witcher 3 for example, it is still quite good.
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Prah: ^ This. GOG is a rental service just as much as Steam, Origin, etc. It's just that they give you more freedom on what you can do with the game you rent. They still work on the same principle though, that you in the end don't actually own the game.
But noone ever owned a game truly. How can you own it if it is inherently non-physical? You even never owned a game when you still could buy it on disc where you had a bit more freedom but the principle was the same.

Do all these distinctions really make sense?

First you say GOG is like Steam and Origin.
Then you say it is not like Steam and Origin.
Then you say it is all the same (same principle).

So what is it then in the end? A bird, a plane, a birdplane?

In the end everything is the same, except for the differences. :)
Post edited October 27, 2015 by Trilarion
Setting aside the semantic arguments over "licensing" versus "owning", the simple difference between GOG and Steam is this: if Steam shuts down its servers tomorrow, the vast majority of games on Steam stop working; if GOG does the same, nothing happens. This is what makes Steam a "rental" service; virtually all of the control over the products they "sell" are in Steam's hands, not yours, and while the same may be true on paper at GOG (read the EULAs on GOG games), in practice, that is not the case. With or without GOG as a service/storefront, you still maintain control over where, when, and how you use the software you have purchased. You can't say that about Steam without being completely disingenuous or embarrassingly ignorant.
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Atlantico: Can't tell if trolling or ignorant. It's one or the other.

The Steam fanatics just can't accept that gog.com can't be compared to the pile of manure that is their favorite object of fellatio. That or they just don't know what they've signed up to when giving their mom's money to Steam.
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amok: and I was about to say something about gOg fanatics and knowing your rights... or not knowing what they sign up to when they give their monies to gOg....

edit - and it just struck me how many here denigrates Steam's community, when gOg have so mature posts such as the one above :)
GOG has it's fair share of moronic manchildren that much is true for certain.
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Atlantico: Can't tell if trolling or ignorant. It's one or the other.

The Steam fanatics just can't accept that gog.com can't be compared to the pile of manure that is their favorite object of fellatio. That or they just don't know what they've signed up to when giving their mom's money to Steam.
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amok: and I was about to say something about gOg fanatics and knowing your rights... or not knowing what they sign up to when they give their monies to gOg....

edit - and it just struck me how many here denigrates Steam's community, when gOg have so mature posts such as the one above :)
Wow, no arguments and just ad hominem. Truly you have reached the end of the rope.

You have nothing. Leave it, that's friendly advice.
SW:KoTOR series is NOT a game. It's a legend.

No future patches is one reason stopping me from getting SW:KoTOR and SW:KoTOR Sith Lords.
But I can't hold much. I will get those as soon as a sale kicks in.
I hope GOG will make a deal with Aspyr and get them on board.

GOG, I FIND LACK OF PATCH DISTURBING.