That depends whether or not entertainment producers (i.e. films, video games, tv shows, etc.) continue to stay riding on the SJW woke bandwagon.

All indications are that they have no intention of getting off of it at any time in the foreseeable future.

So in that case the answer to your question is no, franchises cannot stop ruining themselves.

Ah , well at least this happens less to games compared to movies/series.
At least EA could make that jedi game which is okay according to reviews.
Strange how there are no Star trek games recently thou.

LOL! :D
raging about them "SJWs" again.
Star Wars is not for kids, I assume?

Is depends on how the franchise is being handled and who's in charge. I'm going to make a niche example with a comic called 'Savage Dragon' by Eric Larsen. He owns it outright and does it all on his own terms. The comic is still ongoing and has done things that more superhero comics have not done of the course of 20+ years:

* Main character has children and step out of spotlight of the book
* Child is now the main character and has been for many years now
* No retcons or reboots
* Inject real world issues and people

Erik has stated that Savage Dragon begins and ends with him. Not sure if that will be the case once he moves on but I think it's a great example of a franchise (comics, cartoon, toys, merch...yadda) that still sticks by the principles of the owner.

Once these things get so big that original owner or intention gets lost in the weeds, then it's set to ruin.

As with all things, the bigger it gets the more out of control it can become. Somethings are huge but still have a core principle like Toei Animation but there is a different culture and mindset behind that company that may be unique to where it stems from.

In the end all you can do is decide to support it or not. Thankfully, with indie in all facets of entertainment we have more choices to choose from.

sjws? what are you talking about?
batwoman is for teenagers
star wars is family oriented both kids and adults , thats why it has yar yar and children killing, amputation etc. :O
star trek is clearly for thinking adults or at least was

Doubt it. I'm afraid that this ride only goes downhill.

Sadly i don't know anything about Savage Dragon or anything comic related.

Yes, usually they start downhill after the rights owners change. As that results in a different target audience and vision ,dunno why they do this , most of the time this results in a fail.

Yup I'm glad there are plenty of new franchises like The Expanse or The Witcher to take these old ones places. Still sad to see my fav universes ruined. Well at least they still can be turned back and produce something good. Maybe ,I've heard EA will lose the SW exclusiveness for games and ubi started to make sw games too. Probably it will be just another AssCreed reskin.

> franchises

If it's a "franchise", it has cancer. No exceptions. It literally means a third party adopting the trappings of a well-regarded entity and selling you random shit.

If I lend my IP to a third party expecting a good result, I'll call it a collaboration or something.

Now there are also cases when individual creators accidentally shit out masterpieces and can't keep up with themselves for purely artistic reasons. But we dont' call those "franchises" either.

Probably , but I like some of those 3rd party things like ST armada 3 , KOTOR 1-2 or were these collaborations?

All the stuff you listed was garbage from the start. Star Wars had two good (not great, just good) movies and everything else is trash. Star Trek was never good, at it's best it was entertaining. Marvel and DC movies and TV shows are all garbage.

Sure it's possible. It just has to not be successful enough to continue. Just look at Firefly or Dark Crystal.

But of course, when a franchise is "ruined" is largely subjective, and never necessarily final. For example I would agree that Star Trek Discovery is terrible, one of the worts tv shows I've ever seen (and Lower Decks might be even worse), but Picard I think was all right. Not great, and it probably would have been better as a movie, but still overall it was ok.

Same with Star Wars - yeah, the sequel trilogy is shite, but Rogue One was very good, and Solo and Mandalorian are quite decent too. Hell, I even enjoyed Episode 9 to some extent. And some of the comics and novels published under Disney were ok, Rebels was fine.

What I'm getting at is - a franchise is never really "ruined". Even if it hits rock bottom, the potential is still there. Sure, it sucks seeing a franchise you love hit that rock bottom, but you have to see it as a passing thing.

OP - Unfortunately not, as it is just the nature of the beast.

Maybe if we all collectively boycotted such a franchise .... but best of luck with that.
As they say, fools and money are easily parted. Many people just have to have and have it now.

That said, all of us are weak at times ... hell, even me ... ha ha ha.

Just yesterday I finally bought realMyst Masterpiece Edition due to a special discount email.
I'd been putting off buying the game even though I had all the others. I wanted it, but had been annoyed when it was released here because I'd not long before bought the standard Real Myst ... no longer available here. It was bad timing and I wanted a bigger discount than they gave. I could have bought the Masterpiece Edition for $7 AUD back then and in hindsight probably should have, especially as I don't recall it ever being below $10 or $11 AUD since (a few years). When they advertised a little while ago about the new version of Myst, I got another of those special discount emails and scored the only other two Myst games I did not have at the time, for a fair price, but the Masterpiece Edition was around $12 or $13 AUD still, so not much of a discount. Anyway with this latest email discount it was $8.49 AUD, and I just decided to cut my losses and finally get it. Cost me $1.50 more than if I had been smarter back in the day, but that's life, and I finally have it now and can close that door. Weak I know, and just my luck they will drop the price again when the new one comes out.

The sad thing and why I did not pay that $7 back in the day, was because the standard Real Myst became redundant and I'd only just bought it. If I'd had it a lot longer, that $7 wouldn't have seemed all that much. Them's the breaks. It of course also felt like I was being conned to pay twice for the game.

Star Trek was never good? Reeeally? Wish someone told me 30 yrs ago to let me know before I started loving it.

Modern civilisation has gone soft. They've turned into gender pronoun wimps. Television has to adapt to these fools if they're going to succeed at something. These new shows and movies aren't aimed at fans. They're aimed at the people who normally wouldn't have the intelligence to understand old school Star Trek, as an example.

I still don't get the whole Star Wars upset. I watched the movies (except the last one of the new trilogy) and played various games, but never was a particular fan of the franchise.

I vividly remember when the prequel trilogy came out, just how bad it was. The prequel movies were legitimate 6/10 movies, with the third being slightly better than the rest. I'm ok with people disliking the new trilogy, but I still struggle to wrap my head around how people can go about pretending the prequels were not disappointing movies.