Ethically bankrupt for sure.

Not sure what to make of the forum moot here. The moot here seems rather dramatic, but it's also largely the loudest voices. As far as I can tell, many people gaming on the next gen consoles or the PC have been rather satisfied with the game? Also, stock price really means nothing right now, least of all an objective evaluation of the state of a firm, but I'm also not sure who is hurt how by the drop.

Mostly leaves me to wonder if they at some point consider if there is a trade-off between being a game developer and running a storefront if selling a few thousand copies of some game (at best) could harm their flagship products like Cyberpunk.

Otherwise, people should just start being more realistic about what to expect from corporate activism in the future, especially when it could jeopardize access to a billion people market... spoiler: not much.

Satisfied , well i can speak only for myself ,but a last year 10-15euro game worths more than this atm.

what a whiney bunch of people "gamers" are! Seriously, a game comes out on multiple platforms and unsurprisingly, has a few bugs and performance issues, which will get patched.

It's pretty standard stuff really.

And yet, I'm seeing calls for their CEO to go to jail, and the company to go bankrupt. Such anger and entitement. By the way, may I point out that you guys CHOSE to pre-order the game; nobody put a f*cking gun to your head.

When you CHOOSE to buy something you are unable to evaluate, you are entitled to whatever you get upon release, nothing more, nothing less.

and people wonder why gamers have a bad rep.

:(

"unsurprisingly a few bugs and performance issues" more than expected especially on consoles

"will get patched" you are just hoping you can't be sure about that, anyway how can we judge a product what it will be like in the future and why should we? If they want money for it ,they should accept our whining for it.

" It's pretty standard stuff really." another reason to stop this behavior , how can it be standard to accept shitty products?

"call for their ceo go to jail" well if he is guilty he should
entitlement? what ? makes no sense, oh we are so entitled to get a working product ,right....

" and people wonder why gamers have a bad rep." oh god...

Ummm... what? Ubi releases a Polish-language version of their store, and you take that as a sign of merger of Ubisoft and CDP(R)?

Or then the Devotion debacle just brought GOG 400 million new Chinese patriotic customers, and now they are swimming in money? My guess is just as good as yours.

What I currently find positive about CDPR regarding CP2077:

1. It seems they really are determined to fix the game as much as possible, using resources for that. Apparently the console versions received a 17GB update two days ago if I read right, and a similar big update is supposed to come to PC, if it hasn't already. Keep them coming.

2. The news about "employee resistance" within CDPR, where the employees question the decisions of the managers and demand answers and seem annoyed about tarnishing the good reputation of CDPR... That also brings me hope even the employees are determined to fix problems, and also make it seem different compared to many bigger publishers and development studios, from where you don't hear similar reports. Do you recall similar reports from e.g. Ubisoft or Bethesda after they releases some super-buggy AssCreed or Fallout 76 game?

Anyway, we will see. I am interested to see the coming weeks and months, how much the incoming fixes change the games, and whether the PS4/XBox One versions will actually be considered ok games at some point.

After all, The Witcher 3 was apparently quite buggy on release too, memes of Geralt's horse standing on top of houses staring at Geralt etc... No one remembers it as such anymore, but as a cult classic.

Seriously, calling for someone to go to jail or for their company to go bankrupt for a game release like C 2077 is more than a little extreme and is entirely subjective. Calm down and wait. I myself am not getting the performance out of the game that I would like, but it's only a matter of time. *Most* games get patched to fix their issues. If the majority of issues still exist in six months time, we will have a problem.

I will say that I don't understand, with all the money they made from pre-orders, why they just didn't wait until after Christmas to polish the game some more before release. But, calling for someone to go to jail is your anger spilling over too much. It's an over-reaction to the perceived crime of CDPR lying to their customers (perhaps they did, a little bit - but that's also pretty common amongst game devs hyping their products and it's why I ignore all hype before a game releases - I go into it expecting nothing).

Here's the news though, nobody will go to jail, and CDPR will not go bankrupt. It didn't happen to Sean Murray from Hello Games, and it won't happen to CDPR. And they will continue to release games to critical acclaim in years to come.

As I say, just try to remain calm. You and everybody else who are having angry outburts. Looking at them from an objective perspective is quite funny really, if not a little sad as well.

If that's the only problem, then it's a self-fixing thing.
The biggest problems are on older consoles like PS4, so whenever CDPR is going to release a new game, PS4 and such no longer exist as an active platform. So all those angry players have moved on to newer platforms.

But the problems with Cyberpunk 2077 go much deeper than that.
Lying to customers and media is not going to go away very easily, broken games can always be patched later, broken promises is a much harder issue.

I really haven't followed that game so closely, but from what I have read in the past days, it seems that there are entire features missing, some promised things are just cosmetic, and footage shown before the launch wasn't real in-game footage. All those amusing glitches are just extra. That's a very tough thing to spin around, as that's a problem across and beyond all platforms.

This is one of the best videos about Cyberpunk 2077 that I have seen, and if the guy on the video is correct with his opinions (and me personally having played 0 seconds, can't really be sure), it doesn't look very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bexA1Oolp0k


Indeed!
This has been heavily discussed before here and elsewhere. I have more than once gotten downvoted on stating that, but now it should be quite obvious to everyone.

GOG really doesn't care about DRM, or game preservation, they care enough to keep that business going while those niche markets work.

But if somehow GOG could become bigger than Steam and Epic by implementing some new DRM, would they really choose not to do it? DRM-free promises would go out faster than an average customer can utter "worldwide pricing".

I guess all of us have been led to believe otherwise, but I think now that both CDPR and GOG have within one week span done whatever they have done, makes it very obvious that they only care about money. We can only hope that there's enough money in the DRM-free niche to keep things going, as from a customer point of view there really aren't much realistic options left if GOG shuts down.

That's why I advocate consumer activisim... except consumers want to use the chinese slave labor market to make cheap goods. For some reason people think you can actually keep the chinese market AND not bow down to chinese authoritarian control. There is no excuse in this day and age for democratic nations to be having trade relationships with china.

They won't go bankrupt. Lots of overreaction. I say that as someone who thinks the company deserves all the criticism it's getting for Devotion and the poor launch.

If they do get weakened enough, they'll just get bought by Epic, EA, Tennant, or some other uber corp. I'm sure the folks complaining now really want that right?

No, I want them to do the right thing so I can throw a lot of money at them and be happy about it - at the moment I simply can't.

It is not a matter of boycotting them, it's just so sad it really diminishes my will to buy games I won't play right now just because they are on sale - and if things do not change, my "loyal stance" regarding GOG and CD Project is just gone. Just gone.

I'll be no longer waiting years to buy a game because it hasn't been released on GOG.

Yes, since 2008.

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oh my god, thanks. exactly.

The problem is not what happened with Cyberpunk 2077 release. The problem is the class action lawsuit against CD RED that's coming around in Poland by investors cause they lost a lot of income with all the fraud connected to Cyberpunk 2077 launch. This lawsuit if it comes to fruition could very well bankrupt CD RED and with it gog.