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Posted December 18, 2020
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I am writing this to express my immense disappointment with Good Old Games' decision to not release Devotion on its platform.

The fact you would do it for such an insipid and disingenuous reason as "receiving many messages from gamers" is insulting.

I have supported you for many years and spent a great deal of money on products from your storefront.

I also used to recommend you to all of my friends and acquaintances.

Between this and the ongoing debacle your parent company is having with Cyberpunk 2077, a game which I purchased for both PC (through GOG no less, to ensure CD Project received all of the revenue) and XBox, my faith in you is at an all-time low.

I am having second thoughts about making any future purchases from you and in fact now find myself asking why I should continue to support you at all.

Perhaps this message from a gamer will get you to reconsider your recent actions, but something tells me it wont.

Signed,
A long-time and possibly soon-to-be former customer.
Posted December 18, 2020
Right there with you, not buying any more games from GOG.

Might even delete my account after I finish Fallout 3 again.
Posted December 18, 2020
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All the power to you with your decision, man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

I, however, see no reason to boycott GOG for this. Just yesterday and today I bought GOG games for like 120 euros. That's a whole lotta money for mere digital entertainment, even for me.

I'll start boycotting GOG when they do something that directly affects me as a customer, like starting to promote DRM in their games. Or they simply don't sell games I want anymore.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by timppu
Posted December 18, 2020
They won't get another penny from me
Posted December 18, 2020
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timppu: I'll start boycotting GOG when they do something that directly affects me as a customer, like starting to promote DRM in their games. Or they simply don't sell games I want anymore.
This. If I had to like every company I gave my money to, as someone else very aptly put it in a different thread, I'd end up having to live in a wood hut on top of a mountain, foraging berries. Business is a jungle, folks. Morality and ideals have little sway here over profits.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by WinterSnowfall
Posted December 18, 2020
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I will continue buying from GOG as long as there is no better DRM free alternative, but my faith is also at an all time low. What concerns me more than CP2077's terrible launch and Devotion's censorship is that GOG's future direction seems to be entirely centered on Galaxy 2.0. They are currently planning to add a feature that lets people buy DRM games on other storefronts through Galaxy. I wish they would spend those resources maintaining GOG downloader, improving the outdated forum software, and restoring more classic games instead. They seem to have completely lost their way.
Posted December 18, 2020
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timppu: I'll start boycotting ___ when they do something that directly affects me
Human history would look a lot different if this was not the prevailing thought :/
Posted December 18, 2020
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De Ravenna: I will continue buying from GOG as long as there is no better DRM free alternative, but my faith is also at an all time low. What concerns me more than CP2077's terrible launch and Devotion's censorship is that GOG's future direction seems to be entirely centered on Galaxy 2.0. They are currently planning to add a feature that lets people buy DRM games on other storefronts through Galaxy. I wish they would spend those resources maintaining GOG downloader, improving the outdated forum software, and restoring more classic games instead. They seem to have completely lost their way.
I plan on buying more games from GOG. These incidents are not going to turn me off of them. I'm not sure about the Console releases, but I always thought if I bought Cyberpunk 2077 it would be on GOG directly. I've seen enough releases to wait though, there's ALWAYS bugs on the initial release of a game. Some go more smoothly, others go less smoothly. Eventually, things get ironed out and everything is great. Plus, i wanted to get a better video card (Nvidia's recent release is very elusive...soo...could be a while) rather than the 2060 I have in my gaming rig currently...so I had time.

On the entire Devotion thing...xpost...again

Maybe I'm an optimist, but I don't think it's a fear of being Banned in China. I think Cyberpunk didn't go as smoothly as it could have, and right now they need to be able to do business on the internet.

The ramifications of releasing the game could have Chinese Hackers up the wazoo for GOG...and cyber attacks, DDOS, and the rest is not something they really can deal with right now on top of everything else they are trying to handle.

I think GOG may release it next year sometime, AFTER things are more settled down and they don't have multiple bonfires burning at the same time.
Posted December 18, 2020
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timppu: I'll start boycotting ___ when they do something that directly affects me
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klogd: Human history would look a lot different if this was not the prevailing thought :/
Yeah... but I see most of this discussion empty virtue signalling anyway. The people who say they will boycott GOG for this will still go buy games from Steam even though the game was pulled from there too.

As I said, as long as GOG had been quiet about it and just silently rejected the game, there wouldn't be all this vitriol.

I understand GOG''s decision to reject the game, similarly like how I understand why the Norwegians are still pumping and selling oil (even though it is supposed to be bad for our climate, just ask Greta Thunberg), or why Germans are still all for Nord Stream 2 even though they should be boycotting everything related to Russia.

Being idealistic is easy when your own life or welfare doesn't depend on it. Virtue-signalling is easy.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by timppu
Posted December 18, 2020
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timppu: Yeah... but I see most of this discussion empty virtue signalling anyway.
Undoubtedly some are loudmouths who will forget about this a week from now when a game they really want pops up, but then again some people (myself included) do not want a dictatorship to shape the future of what games we play and will just not do business with a company that plays along with that.
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timppu: The people who say they will boycott GOG for this will still go buy games from Steam even though the game was pulled from there too.
The game was removed from Steam by Red Candle Games, not by Steam.
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timppu: As I said, as long as GOG had been quiet about it and just silently rejected the game, there wouldn't be all this vitriol.
Yeah, it's almost like saying you're releasing a game, then immediately turning around and claiming "gamers" didn't want it makes you look like a douchebag in some peoples eyes.
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timppu: I understand GOG''s decision to reject the game, similarly like how I understand why the Norwegians are still pumping and selling oil (even though it is supposed to be bad for our climate, just ask Greta Thunberg), or why Germans are still all for Nord Stream 2 even though they should be boycotting everything related to Russia.
I also perfectly understand their decision. I'm just hoping that they underestimated how many people would be pissed off about it and that their choice does not pay off as that would mean even larger chunks of my future entertainment will have to be made in a way that makes it tolerable to a hypersensitive authoritarian regime. I also think both Nord Stream 2 and continued investment into burning oil byproducts are stupid short-sighted mistakes.
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timppu: Being idealistic is easy when your own life or welfare doesn't depend on it. Virtue-signalling is easy.
100% Agreed, I wouldn't be calling Xi a honey munching dummy thick bear if I lived in China. Just because that is easy for me because of where I live, does that mean I shouldn't? Is this the same logic that says you can't complain if someone else has it worse?
Posted December 18, 2020
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GreywolfLord: The ramifications of releasing the game could have Chinese Hackers up the wazoo for GOG...and cyber attacks, DDOS, and the rest is not something they really can deal with right now on top of everything else they are trying to handle.

I think GOG may release it next year sometime, AFTER things are more settled down and they don't have multiple bonfires burning at the same time.
Then why not simply say so? Blaming it on "gamers" was so low! Tell us the truth or at least something.

Heck, had they simply said:

"It has come to our attention that there is some controversy regarding the game and the Chinese market. We are analyzing the situation and decided to not release the game right now and we have no new release date in sight."

I don't think we would be here with 7000+ requests for the game.
Posted December 18, 2020
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klogd: Right there with you, not buying any more games from GOG.

Might even delete my account after I finish Fallout 3 again.
I agree completely. Not buying anything from them until they correct this. Same goes for steam.
Posted December 18, 2020
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klogd: The game was removed from Steam by Red Candle Games, not by Steam.
I see this argument being used all the time. Why has it not returned then? Clearly the developers feel the game is ready for re-release, otherwise they would not have negotiated with GOG.

I do not think the developers themselves are not willing to re-release on Steam looking at the market share Steam has compared to GOG, but I am curious to find oud what your thoughts are on this.
Posted December 18, 2020
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klogd: The game was removed from Steam by Red Candle Games, not by Steam.
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acute71: I see this argument being used all the time. Why has it not returned then? Clearly the developers feel the game is ready for re-release, otherwise they would not have negotiated with GOG.

I do not think the developers themselves are not willing to re-release on Steam looking at the market share Steam has compared to GOG, but I am curious to find oud what your thoughts are on this.
I would also love to get some more information on why it was not released on steam again. I'd also really like to see Red Candle try and get it released on steam, just to see what happens :D
Posted December 18, 2020
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GreywolfLord: The ramifications of releasing the game could have Chinese Hackers up the wazoo for GOG...and cyber attacks, DDOS, and the rest is not something they really can deal with right now on top of everything else they are trying to handle.

I think GOG may release it next year sometime, AFTER things are more settled down and they don't have multiple bonfires burning at the same time.
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RafaelRamus: Then why not simply say so? Blaming it on "gamers" was so low! Tell us the truth or at least something.

Heck, had they simply said:

"It has come to our attention that there is some controversy regarding the game and the Chinese market. We are analyzing the situation and decided to not release the game right now and we have no new release date in sight."

I don't think we would be here with 7000+ requests for the game.
That type of response is also a good way to trigger a violent response from China...and them trying to trash the site and hack everything while they are dealing with a bunch of other stuff taking their attention probably is not what they need currently.

edit: I don't really like this situation either, or what GOG did, but I certainly would be cautious if I were GOG in this type of situation.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by GreywolfLord
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