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Say you had download links to game demos and betas that you had bought from a store when it was available for a short time, but could be used by anyone, that are no longer available and look like they will never be released. Someone asks you to share the links. Would you? Hypothetically of course.
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theslitherydeee: Say you had download links to game demos and betas that you had bought from a store when it was available for a short time, but could be used by anyone, that are no longer available and look like they will never be released. Someone asks you to share the links. Would you? Hypothetically of course.
Ooh an ethical question.

Demos, sure. Unless the reason the demo was removed was because of a bug that could cause issues with the computer (Look up the Demo Disc for PS2 with Viewtiful Joe 2 for some lols). I've always seen demos as essentially shareware. Unless the developers asked people to no longer share it, I see no problems. Hypothetically.

As for betas, that's a bit trickier.

For a friend? Sure, I'm only distributing to one person. May not be legal, but ethically I feel fine with that.

For a stranger.. Well, it depends entirely on what is contained on the beta. If the beta is essentially a full version game, probably not, at least until I know they won't then distribute them further.

Just my opinion though.
Post edited December 26, 2017 by Invghost
Demos were ment to be shared freely with people in the hope that said individual would be so interested in the content that they would purchase the final game even Money Grubbers like Bethesda allow demos of some of their games to be distributed.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Beta a pre-release mass test of a game? once the game goes live there is no such thing as a beta version, just the final version
Beta State Games
Beta state games are in some cases a simple fine tuning of a 90% complete game, or could be another stage for the devs to add another round of content for the end product itself. There are a lot of different ways to see what beta state games are and normally they are categorized by the different numbers associated with them. a common way of seeing this (in most games but not all) are the 3 numbers in patch notes such as 0.1.9 (early beta phase) or 0.9.8 (late beta stage) different developers have different ways of doing this but the higher the number, the later in the creation it is.

Now this is a time when its like going over a game with a fine tooth comb to find all the last existing bugs or balance changes. At this point more and more players will most likely take a stance on if the game is a good one or not as most of the time (not all) the future potential has been revealed and what the devs work ethic is and how it will be possibly during later development and release. But this stage is critical as well, because sometimes large bugs, exploits, glitches and other issues do pass over from the alpha state. But its also the time when a lot of new content can be added, tested and looked over.

At this point in development keep an open mind, but keep active on the forums, look for issues and things that might need to be addressed by the devs. Or bring up new ideas and suggestions on in game stuff and mechanics

Review
-Less bugs and issues
-Better balancing
-quicker hotfixes or updates
-more content (but not all)
-game changes

Some developers allow you as a beta tester to continue to use their product for a said period of time, but if youy want DLC's or added content your going to have ot pay like the rest of the fanbase.
Post edited December 26, 2017 by Dejavous
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theslitherydeee: Say you had download links to game demos and betas that you had bought from a store when it was available for a short time, but could be used by anyone, that are no longer available and look like they will never be released. Someone asks you to share the links. Would you? Hypothetically of course.
Sure, it's just a hyperlink. You aren't distributing the games and if the content at the link is publicly accessible by all, then that's on whoever is running the server. You'll be doing nothing wrong.
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Serren: Sure, it's just a hyperlink. You aren't distributing the games and if the content at the link is publicly accessible by all, then that's on whoever is running the server. You'll be doing nothing wrong.
Actually court cases go both ways on if linking to downloads is illegal or not.

I could sit here and write a paper on it but you'll have to forgive me this morning. Kind of busy. For my clients, it's Nation Clean Up the Red Eye in their photos day.
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drmike: Actually court cases go both ways on if linking to downloads is illegal or not.

I could sit here and write a paper on it but you'll have to forgive me this morning. Kind of busy. For my clients, it's Nation Clean Up the Red Eye in their photos day.
Citation needed. I'd like to see a case where someone was prosecuted merely for providing a hyperlnk.
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Serren: Citation needed.
Certainly. Normally I would wait for your own citation as well as an apology for your own poor manners since you don't provide your own but being the day after xmas, I'm a little busy today.

Having said that and I guess you missed what I wrote, that court cases go both ways.

Examples:

Illegal:

https://www.cnet.com/news/surfthechannel-founder-gets-four-years-prison-time-for-piracy/

Legal:

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/04/07/is-linking-to-pirate-content-copyright-infringement/

Do note that 2nd link is for just an opinion. It was follow up with a decision later in September but all the sites I see it on are behind a pay wall or only allow a single view before hiding behind a pay wall. The ft.com article for example:

https://www.ft.com/content/a1125e96-75b8-11e6-b60a-de4532d5ea35

If you want more:

https://www.google.com/search?q=linking+to+pirated+content+is+illegal

https://www.google.com/search?q=linking+to+pirated+content+is+legal
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drmike: Certainly. Normally I would wait for your own citation as well as an apology for your own poor manners since you don't provide your own but being the day after xmas, I'm a little busy today.
Poor manners? Spare me the fabricated outrage. You're upset that I challenged your assertion. Illegal because he was using those links for commercial purposes, not because of the linking itself. Got anything more specific? Anyone can search for "position I am advancing" and get results that appear to support their argument, at least superficially. I think you'll find that once you dig a bit deeper into any of the cases you might come across that the hyperlinking itself was entirely peripheral to the actual crime committed.