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I have a question regarding Influent. It is specified by Humble that:
You get one free language pack with your copy of Influent! Select from: Japanese, German, Spanish, French, English, Italian, Swedish, Korean, Mandarin Chinese, Russian, Bulgarian, and Latin.

What exactly does it mean? I mean, can I choose more than one languages or only one? And are the interface languages(Note: Game interface available in: English, German, French, Swedish, Russian, and Japanese.-as stated in Humble's page) available as languages to be learned without the language pack?
As an example, and to show why I'm asking, let's say I'm interested in learning German,Russian and Chinese-in that order of interest. Can I pick all 3 languages(that is, can I pick more than one languages and up to how many?) or am I limited to only one?

Thanks for your consideration beforehand. :-)
Post edited October 23, 2014 by Treasure
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yyahoo: Yikes! And it was only released in July? That's not a good sign...
It was available as Early Access so interested people might have been buying it from earlier.
I'd be tempted to buy it but not at this price.
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Treasure: I have a question regarding Influent

What exactly does it mean? I mean, can I choose more than one languages or only one? And are the interface languages(Note: Game interface available in: English, German, French, Swedish, Russian, and Japanese.-as stated in Humble's page) available as languages to be learned without the language pack?
According to:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gaming_deals_thread/post51474

you get only one language, you can purchase other languages as DLC.
Post edited October 23, 2014 by madth3
Ooh, Contraption Maker! Nice to see it featured in a bundle, but I have it already. :P

I do encourage everyone to vote so it can show up on GOG.com:

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/contraption_maker
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Treasure: I have a question regarding Influent

What exactly does it mean? I mean, can I choose more than one languages or only one? And are the interface languages(Note: Game interface available in: English, German, French, Swedish, Russian, and Japanese.-as stated in Humble's page) available as languages to be learned without the language pack?
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madth3: According to:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gaming_deals_thread/post51474

you get only one language, you can purchase other languages as DLC.
Oh, I see. :-/ Ok, I should have been expecting that actually(of course they would sell just one language and the rest would be available as DLC, they aren't charity). I had seen the post you linked to, but didn't exactly realise (and perhaps the post itself didn't make it clear, although at fault is probably also the fact that it's getting late in my timezone...yawn...) that the buyer would get only one language. I'll go with German then.
Anyways, thanks a lot for answering my question! :-D

Edit-now that I think of it, perhaps another reason I got confused is because of the use of the word "language pack"-I mean, "pack" as a word means lots of objects together-and that's why I interepreted it as many languages.

P.S. Btw, who would want to learn a "dead language" (such as Latin) from a software obviously focusing on modern-day everyday objects? I mean, Ancient Romans didn't have PCs or phones or whatever else we have nowadays. Oh well...
Post edited October 23, 2014 by Treasure
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Treasure: P.S. Btw, who would want to learn a "dead language" (such as Latin) from a software obviously focusing on modern-day everyday objects? I mean, Ancient Romans didn't have PCs or phones or whatever else we have nowadays. Oh well...
I think there are people still creating latin names for modern things based on latin etymology, but I think I read that years ago and I don't have a reference for that.
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Treasure: P.S. Btw, who would want to learn a "dead language" (such as Latin) from a software obviously focusing on modern-day everyday objects? I mean, Ancient Romans didn't have PCs or phones or whatever else we have nowadays. Oh well...
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madth3: I think there are people still creating latin names for modern things based on latin etymology, but I think I read that years ago and I don't have a reference for that.
That makes sense as an explanation. And it is also justified by the following "experience" I had a few years ago:
I was learning Latin in high-school and my father thought he'd get me a software to help-not that I found Latin very hard(in fact I thought-and still think- it is very easy to learn)- but he got it in the same mentality he had gotten "Tell me More" software when I was learning French. I distrusted the software immediately from the start(anybody would ,with this appearance it had-of course he got for cheaper than the price listed on the link) and when I saw that it actually gave a word for "telephone"- and many other modern things, I laughed at the software, thinking it was ridiculous, and then continued to learn Latin the traditional way(with a grammar and a textbook, that is)...
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madth3: I think there are people still creating latin names for modern things based on latin etymology, but I think I read that years ago and I don't have a reference for that.
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Treasure: That makes sense as an explanation. And it is also justified by the following "experience" I had a few years ago:
I was learning Latin in high-school and my father thought he'd get me a software to help-not that I found Latin very hard(in fact I thought-and still think- it is very easy to learn)- but he got it in the same mentality he had gotten "Tell me More" software when I was learning French. I distrusted the software immediately from the start(anybody would ,with this appearance it had-of course he got for cheaper than the price listed on the link) and when I saw that it actually gave a word for "telephone"- and many other modern things, I laughed at the software, thinking it was ridiculous, and then continued to learn Latin the traditional way(with a grammar and a textbook, that is)...
Influent Dev here. I can confirm this. We had a friend who was studying Latin and offered to put it in the game for us. Even though Latin is a dead language, like you stated above, people are still translating modern objects.
Happy to answer any questions you have and thank you for the interest in Influent.
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Treasure: That makes sense as an explanation. And it is also justified by the following "experience" I had a few years ago:
I was learning Latin in high-school and my father thought he'd get me a software to help-not that I found Latin very hard(in fact I thought-and still think- it is very easy to learn)- but he got it in the same mentality he had gotten "Tell me More" software when I was learning French. I distrusted the software immediately from the start(anybody would ,with this appearance it had-of course he got for cheaper than the price listed on the link) and when I saw that it actually gave a word for "telephone"- and many other modern things, I laughed at the software, thinking it was ridiculous, and then continued to learn Latin the traditional way(with a grammar and a textbook, that is)...
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lilspooky: Influent Dev here. I can confirm this. We had a friend who was studying Latin and offered to put it in the game for us. Even though Latin is a dead language, like you stated above, people are still translating modern objects.
Happy to answer any questions you have and thank you for the interest in Influent.
I'm curious about the "activation code" for the "DRM-free" version of the app. Does the activation code require online access or is this just an internal key check?

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/203445960
Post edited October 25, 2014 by yyahoo
Can anyone share their input about the bta and top level games? I'm interested in Influent, but wanted to lnow more about the rest.
So I was wondering and quite interested in your opinion - how do you consider how much to spend on a bundle? :)

I know some Anti-Drm advocates that will buy at 0.99$ point just to support the DRM-Free copies and NOT get a steam key.
But what if the whole bundle is Steam only (like the recent Nordic)? will you still spend 0.99$ and give all to humble/charity?

I suppose most pay the 1$ when possible and sometimes BTA on relevant bundles (I did a BTA once so far, but I'm new to this).

How about the upper tier? Is it just to support the developers (or specialty occasions like charity/whatnots)?
As I suppose most people who are after that sort don't turn to humble for exclusive/pre-order/early access as (other then rare extremities) these are available in other places much sooner. As I don't care at all for fast delivery, I rather just wait and get those titles once their price drops.

And would you consider paying (much) lower then 0.99$ for titles that have limited interest to you that you don't care enpugh to get on steam but would still like an option to check them out?If so, do you feel that going for the bare minimum is considered taking advantage of the offer?

Your humble opinions are very much appreciated! :) {please reply to this post if you do as It will be much easier to follow in this mega thread}
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BlackThorny:
To tell the truth, unless you're a very generous person or you don't buy many games or you're wealthy, I fear the pay-what-you-want model in combination with the frequent bundles and sales will soon seduce you to only pay the minimum. If you really care about supporting the developers, you could already have bought the games (or several copies of them) on release for the full price, and if you want to donate money to charity, you could do it without buying games. Of course there are exceptions, like DRM-free versions of a game having their debut in a bundle, but that's become pretty rare these days. Personally I admit I've become quite accustomed to paying low prices just to try out a few games I might not have bought otherwise, although I usually don't pay less than a dollar and I don't believe that doing so would send any positive message about DRM-free games to the developers.
Post edited October 26, 2014 by Leroux
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BlackThorny: So I was wondering and quite interested in your opinion - how do you consider how much to spend on a bundle? :)

I know some Anti-Drm advocates that will buy at 0.99$ point just to support the DRM-Free copies and NOT get a steam key.
But what if the whole bundle is Steam only (like the recent Nordic)? will you still spend 0.99$ and give all to humble/charity?

I suppose most pay the 1$ when possible and sometimes BTA on relevant bundles (I did a BTA once so far, but I'm new to this).

How about the upper tier? Is it just to support the developers (or specialty occasions like charity/whatnots)?
As I suppose most people who are after that sort don't turn to humble for exclusive/pre-order/early access as (other then rare extremities) these are available in other places much sooner. As I don't care at all for fast delivery, I rather just wait and get those titles once their price drops.

And would you consider paying (much) lower then 0.99$ for titles that have limited interest to you that you don't care enpugh to get on steam but would still like an option to check them out?If so, do you feel that going for the bare minimum is considered taking advantage of the offer?

Your humble opinions are very much appreciated! :) {please reply to this post if you do as It will be much easier to follow in this mega thread}
I assume that the affirmative way you made that statement about some DRM-free advocates means that they've admitted doing it for the reason you stated?

I am a DRM-free advocate, and if a bundle comprises exclusively of Steam titles, I simply don't buy it, as buying it sends the wrong message. And why would I want to give my money to HB in such a case? To reward them for not pushing for DRM-free alternatives to be included? /S
As for charity - I have my own charity causes that I support, and don't need HB to do so. Yes, that means that i see the charity aspect of HB mostly as a clever gimmick to entice people to buy more/ most bundles.

If a bundle contains DRM-free versions, but (most of) the games present little to no interest to me, I usually pass.

As for how much I spend, it depends on how much interest each bundle holds for me, i.e. I don't go for higher tiers if the games are of no interest, repeats or Steam exclusives. If it's the lower tier, the amount depends on how many games interest me to play or just check out, but not bellow $1, even if I personally have no use for the Steam keys (I just give them away).
Yes, I've read several posts claiming to do just that "in order to send a message", though my search didn't yield results I could link atm. I suppose supporting humble for a non Drm-Free bundle is not very logical, but as they don;t give you anything in return, doing so in s steam exclusive is 100% for charity/humble for being in there in the first place, and sure makes them think as to WHY would someone do that... so it has a point.

Thanks for both answers, it was very enlightening to read :) Would be great to have some more :)
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BlackThorny: but as they don;t give you anything in return, doing so in s steam exclusive is 100% for charity/humble for being in there in the first place, and sure makes them think as to WHY would someone do that... so it has a point.
I woudn't count on it that it makes them think or care. Usually a much better way to draw some attention to an issue is to just write an e-mail about it instead of trying to make people guess your intentions. ;)
Post edited October 26, 2014 by Leroux
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BlackThorny: Yes, I've read several posts claiming to do just that "in order to send a message", though my search didn't yield results I could link atm. I suppose supporting humble for a non Drm-Free bundle is not very logical, but as they don;t give you anything in return, doing so in s steam exclusive is 100% for charity/humble for being in there in the first place, and sure makes them think as to WHY would someone do that... so it has a point.

Thanks for both answers, it was very enlightening to read :) Would be great to have some more :)
You've lost me, can you please elaborate on the part I highlighted?