What's so extreme about wanting to be treated like a customer rather than a potential thief?

Probably that's what ended us up with Steam to begin with. People acting like we are extremists... only for asking for our most basic rights in buying a product.

Humble has some unusual qualities that sometimes make it work. I'm glad to see there is at least support for screen shots now and it's not always leaning on movies for everything. It's pretty inconsistent though. Overall it's kind of a weird place to shop. It's more of the place you go to get a good deal when you already know what stuff is. It's about the least useful site when trying to browse titles.

I certainly have used HB, but if someone said I had to obliterate it or GoG I would definitely be keeping GoG. The sell everything to everyone is kind of nice to a point, but I think it's kind of short sighted. Especially the key inclusion with DRM-free titles.

That sounds like a nice idea on the surface, but I feel like it just ends up shoring up all the key based services while doing little to nothing to actually promote the idea of being DRM-free. It feels like it's more to take advantage of DRM-free people than it is anything that is actually helping us. HB is willing to give us anything and everything because they don't really give a crap about anything but selling games in the here and now. At least, I don't see how they could care about much of anything else. If that is to promote charities or make money I don't know, but I really don't think HB is doing a whole lot to further a drm-free agenda.

I kind of think the only reason DRM-free is a serious thing at all is because GoG has shown it can work (if only to a point with smaller and older games.) Even with that I don't think anyone else could be expected to "pick up the torch" should GoG go under and I think the idea of DRM-free would bleed heavily if that were to happen. If HB went under, I think there will always be somebody willing to be the everything to everyone type, and others looking to toss wads of stuff into a bag and slap a low price on it.

I prefer GOG's presentation and consistency.

Oh, that's what you mean? I dunno, maybe I just haven't been around long enough, but a majority of games I've seen offered on bundles usually include a DRM-free copy, and if they don't, they aren't available outside of Steam anyways, so it's not like they have any other choice.
Actually, yes, I would shrug it off. I could always either trade it for something better or consider it a gift to my friends (most of which aren't as jaded as you guys, no offense, and don't care about Steam's drawbacks).
Fair enough. I just consider it my "backup" since I'm fine with Steam. Similarly with the Telltale games which also give you a Telltale key.
Eh, I still doubt it. Not to change the topic of the thread, bitcoins have gotten nowhere so far and I seriously doubt they'll ever go anywhere. Even at that though, you mentioned that Humble includes them, which is actually another point to them over GOG. Just sayin'.

Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

How do you mean?

Or because people with lower morals than you will readily pirate games. I'm not saying it'll happen, but theoretically, what's to stop another site like Napster popping up, except for games rather than music?
It doesn't really do anything unless you're trying to limit who can chat you. And even at that, you can block whoever you want anyways. It's not like it adds anything extra by adding them as a friend (at least, without Galaxy, anyways, which I'm not sure of the features).

Meh. As GOG continues to add Galaxy-related community features, Friends lists will probably start to have more of a point. Not that I care, as a non-Galaxy-user. But some people just like to collect Friends, I guess, even if they don't interact with them. : )

In Galaxy, sure, they might have more of a purpose, but as it stands, they're not that great for anything, and limiting your chat to them actually hinders some of your ability for participating in the community.

...You mean like the torrent sites that have served that purpose for years?

I have no idea what those are.

The point I'm making is, some bundles are full of Steam keys that already I'm put off by the thought of buying the bundle. If the games offered were exclusively the DRM-free ones, that'd be an extra point for Humble Bundle, but as it stands, every week and two weeks, I hope for a bundle that is actually good and not a fest of Steam keys.

I wouldn't shrug it off if the game that I wanted and bought the entire bundle for turned out to be broken or unplayable or whatever. By the way, by the time I find that the game is broken, it is beyond trading or gifting. WELCOME TO STEAM. Also, before you keep saying I'm jaded and I care too much about Steam's drawbacks, I'll let you know I got burned by DRM, Steam, Origin and Uplay, so badly that DRM is now a decisive force in my purchases. Its not that I'm jaded or whatever, its that I tried the deal, got burned by the deal later, and decided not to get burned by the deal again.

My question is, why would you consider a Steam key a 'backup' if you have DRM-free copies, which can be backed up like mad and to an extent far beyond a mere one-time consumable Steam key?

Doubt however you like, its not my business. What I do know is that bitcoin is being used, and catering to Bitcoin users is indeed a point to Humble Bundle as I stated in my initial post! However, I still decided that GOG is just the better service. By the way, I've used everything besides battle.net and whatever else that I probably didn't come by. Steam, Origin, Uplay, Humble Bundle, Desura, GOG, itch.io, Gamersgate. Of all of these, GOG and Humble Bundle (the DRM-free titles) are my tops, followed by itch.io, then Desura, and then Origin last (if only for Battlefield games).
Look, people will always pirate games. Pirating a Steam game is easy as pita. You simply don't want to know how EASY it is to pirate Steam games even with its DRM in effect. How easy it is to crack any Steam game even as someone who can't reverse engineer things (I'm assuming you can't, obviously). In the end though, even after buying the game, I'm treated like a potential pirate as the guy said. So I put my money where I'm treated like a customer. GOG seems to be the best fit for the bill.

Wait, sorry, do you mean the games, or the keys? As in, are you hoping for NO Steam key at all to be included, or just for the DRM-free version to be included as well?

Hm? I'm not talking about the game itself, just the DRM-free copy. I've had a couple of games where the DRM-free version didn't work but the Steam one did. And I can't speak for Origin or Uplay since I know nothing about them, I'm just talking about Steam here. Could you explain how you got burned by it? I'm curious to see why you're so negative about it all.
See above.
For me, I have no idea what battle.net even is. I've only ever used three services: GOG, Humble Bundle, and Steam. For everyone else, either I don't trust them or they don't sell games that I'm interested in.