Posted October 27, 2015
Irritating because materialist marxists always seem to carry a huge chip on their shoulder about the material conditions not really mattering. It's for the cause comrade, you know... the cause...
One could almost say it's a form of false conscience... but heck, even I can't use Marxist rhetoric without smirking.
But it has, as a matter of fact, and the fact you, and a lot of people like you, don't see it at all is THE main cultural problem on Earth IMO.
-Consider absolute poverty rather than any kind of relative poverty defined statistically. By which I mean, count people starving rather than people in the lowest decile of income or some such.
-Consider the world rather than just developed countries. Which is obvious and o your credit is what you yourself mentioned.
-Consider percentage of world population rather than total numbers because the number of humans alive has increased hugely at the same time.
And you can't miss the effect globalization, which was pretty much capitalism expanding to third world countries, has had since the Cold War ended.
Ergo, the fact there are "more" poor today (say one billion instead of 500 million) than 50 years ago is irrelevant because the proportional increase is below the population increase. We had 3 billions of new humans in the same period, which was practically doubling, many of which only survived precisely because of the medical, technological AND economical improvements capitalism caused. And of those 3 billion extra people only 500 million, so like a sixth are actually, absolutely poor, but because the total number of poor doubled, you all don't see what capitalism has done.
Let me repeat, the human population doubled, yet a minority of those new humans are actually poor. We had maybe 30% of poor, on a small population basis back in the 70s. We doubled the population basis and managed to reduce the proportion of poor, let's say to 20%, but somehow that doesn't count.
I have to laugh, so I won't cry. And people go on to say communist propaganda was not effective...
PS: all numbers straight out of my ass... sorry, I just don't feel like googling them from the UN or some other reputable source.
PPS: Dear lord Crosmando... one minute googling and see what I found: "...Poland lost about 178,000 sq km of its pre-war territory in the east, but gained some 101,000 sq km in the west and north."
But really, who gives a fuck about land when you consider all the blood spilled. :(
One could almost say it's a form of false conscience... but heck, even I can't use Marxist rhetoric without smirking.
But it has, as a matter of fact, and the fact you, and a lot of people like you, don't see it at all is THE main cultural problem on Earth IMO.
-Consider absolute poverty rather than any kind of relative poverty defined statistically. By which I mean, count people starving rather than people in the lowest decile of income or some such.
-Consider the world rather than just developed countries. Which is obvious and o your credit is what you yourself mentioned.
-Consider percentage of world population rather than total numbers because the number of humans alive has increased hugely at the same time.
And you can't miss the effect globalization, which was pretty much capitalism expanding to third world countries, has had since the Cold War ended.
Ergo, the fact there are "more" poor today (say one billion instead of 500 million) than 50 years ago is irrelevant because the proportional increase is below the population increase. We had 3 billions of new humans in the same period, which was practically doubling, many of which only survived precisely because of the medical, technological AND economical improvements capitalism caused. And of those 3 billion extra people only 500 million, so like a sixth are actually, absolutely poor, but because the total number of poor doubled, you all don't see what capitalism has done.
Let me repeat, the human population doubled, yet a minority of those new humans are actually poor. We had maybe 30% of poor, on a small population basis back in the 70s. We doubled the population basis and managed to reduce the proportion of poor, let's say to 20%, but somehow that doesn't count.
I have to laugh, so I won't cry. And people go on to say communist propaganda was not effective...
PS: all numbers straight out of my ass... sorry, I just don't feel like googling them from the UN or some other reputable source.
PPS: Dear lord Crosmando... one minute googling and see what I found: "...Poland lost about 178,000 sq km of its pre-war territory in the east, but gained some 101,000 sq km in the west and north."
But really, who gives a fuck about land when you consider all the blood spilled. :(
Post edited October 27, 2015 by Brasas