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Posted May 31, 2015
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Ophelium: I have learned a few things from this thread:

1) People who call others 'sheeple' are the most easily deluded.

2) People who eat paint chips and pee themselves somehow have internet access.

3) If I make something controversial when it really isn't, I can get the aforementioned people to defend me and my creation. And pay me money.

4) The world is a scary place, but there are still great, awesome and funny people here on GOG.

5) I would have bought Hatred blindly if it weren't for the asshats. So thank you, asshats, for saving me some money.
+1 for the laughs.

I'd also just like to say that no matter how many times someone mistakenly types 'funboy' instead of 'fanboy', it still makes me chuckle every time.
Posted May 31, 2015
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Supremtin: I mean seriously don't you think if gog had some other reason for not hosting the game they would have let the world know by now?
GOG rejected Braid and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected The Cat Lady at first and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected Tetrobot and Co. at first and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected Xenonauts at first and didn't give us any reason.

Why do you think they would give us reasons for rejecting Hatred?
Posted May 31, 2015
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Supremtin: I mean seriously don't you think if gog had some other reason for not hosting the game they would have let the world know by now?
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PaterAlf: GOG rejected Braid and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected The Cat Lady at first and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected Tetrobot and Co. at first and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected Xenonauts at first and didn't give us any reason.

Why do you think they would give us reasons for rejecting Hatred?
GOG rejected Crawl. Well, that's what I gathered from it's having been on the UPCOMING list for the past year. :P
Posted May 31, 2015
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PaterAlf: GOG rejected Braid and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected The Cat Lady at first and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected Tetrobot and Co. at first and didn't give us any reason.
GOG rejected Xenonauts at first and didn't give us any reason.

Why do you think they would give us reasons for rejecting Hatred?
I think they also rejected AI War at first .
Posted May 31, 2015
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Tracido: They are elitist trolls, nothing more nothing less. They spit out trigger facts about themselves and wait for someone to bite at the bait. Trolls being trolls.
How is that a thing?
You tell someone something personal and then ... after that you shout "LOLOLROFLKEK"? That makes no sense logicwise.
Posted May 31, 2015
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Supremtin: I mean seriously don't you think if gog had some other reason for not hosting the game they would have let the world know by now?
They NEVER tell why they reject a game, apart from a very generic and uninformative "too niche" or "hope your next product will be a better fit" sometimes. Basic professional courtesy : You don't talk to the public about your business relationships/negociations/opinions regarding your potential partners. Never. Well, you don't do it if you want to be taken seriously by other serious outfits like Disney and work with them, at least. It would poison your relationship with all your other potential partners.

We don't know why GOG rejected Braid, one of the most acclaimed indies. We don't know why they first rejected (and then accepted) the Cat Lady. We don't know why they rejected the Winter Wolves games when their dev really wanted them here and offered his bestselling titles.

- They could have decided the game was not good enough/not "special" enough/not finished enough

- They could have disagreed about the pricing

- They could have disliked the way the devs created and exploited the controversy for marketting purpose (The AO thing being the most glaring : That rating is the result of a form they sent themselves to the ESRB. They didn't have to do it if they wanted a PC download only release, and they didn't have to gloat about the brutality of the game, when many other devs did worse and only got a "M".)

- They could have decided they had enough "mindless slaughter" games for now, and didn't need another (unexceptional) one for now

- They could simply dislike the game on a personal level. Very valid reason not to have something in your store

- They could think the game will not sell enough (yeah, I know 3500+ wishlist, but their marketting guys may think most of those wishes are simply political posturing, which will not become sales when real money will be involved)

- The dev might have bullied a GOG staffer in 5th grade

- OR they might be afraid of the attention an AO "Breivik simulator" might draw to their store, like you said. Which I kinda doubt since they already have AO games, psychokiller games and mindless slaughter games (they even did a "blood and mayhem" promo last week), and more importantly, because Steam already has the game, so any public outrage will be directed at them and ignore GOG, like usual.



GOG recently rejected a game I am interested in (Sunrider : Liberation Day) without commenting, although they already have pseudo-manga games ("Long live the queen") and games with some light nudity. Should I start a protest because "they obviously were afraid of a game that has both pseudo manga and partial nudity, the hypocrites", when other explanations (the fact that the first part of the game is a freeware, the amateurish design, the unbalanced tactical fights) exist? Or should I simply think "OK, their decision, maybe next game", and simply buy it from the dev?
Posted May 31, 2015
Is anyone else getting pestered by ciomalau right now?
Posted May 31, 2015
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tinyE: Is anyone else getting pestered by ciomalau right now?
?
Posted May 31, 2015
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tinyE: Is anyone else getting pestered by ciomalau right now?
Yes. I've reported him to Firek who shows online.
Posted May 31, 2015
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tinyE: Is anyone else getting pestered by ciomalau right now?
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ne_zavarj: ?
You know him! He makes monkeydelarge look well balanced.

I thought he was gone but he just started PMing me.

He's offering me naked pictures of his mother which I suppose is better than the other day when he asked the forum if we had any NWN mods to add black people so that the game could be more 'dirty'.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by tinyE
Posted May 31, 2015
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tinyE: GOG rejected Crawl. Well, that's what I gathered from it's having been on the UPCOMING list for the past year. :P
Nah. The game's development is just crawling.
Posted May 31, 2015
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Supremtin: I mean seriously don't you think if gog had some other reason for not hosting the game they would have let the world know by now?
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Kardwill: They NEVER tell why they reject a game, apart from a very generic and uninformative "too niche" or "hope your next product will be a better fit" sometimes. Basic professional courtesy : You don't talk to the public about your business relationships/negociations/opinions regarding your potential partners. Never. Well, you don't do it if you want to be taken seriously by other serious outfits like Disney and work with them, at least. It would poison your relationship with all your other potential partners.

We don't know why GOG rejected Braid, one of the most acclaimed indies. We don't know why they first rejected (and then accepted) the Cat Lady. We don't know why they rejected the Winter Wolves games when their dev really wanted them here and offered his bestselling titles.

- They could have decided the game was not good enough/not "special" enough/not finished enough

- They could have disagreed about the pricing

- They could have disliked the way the devs created and exploited the controversy for marketting purpose (The AO thing being the most glaring : That rating is the result of a form they sent themselves to the ESRB. They didn't have to do it if they wanted a PC download only release, and they didn't have to gloat about the brutality of the game, when many other devs did worse and only got a "M".)

- They could have decided they had enough "mindless slaughter" games for now, and didn't need another (unexceptional) one for now

- They could simply dislike the game on a personal level. Very valid reason not to have something in your store

- They could think the game will not sell enough (yeah, I know 3500+ wishlist, but their marketting guys may think most of those wishes are simply political posturing, which will not become sales when real money will be involved)

- The dev might have bullied a GOG staffer in 5th grade

- OR they might be afraid of the attention an AO "Breivik simulator" might draw to their store, like you said. Which I kinda doubt since they already have AO games, psychokiller games and mindless slaughter games (they even did a "blood and mayhem" promo last week), and more importantly, because Steam already has the game, so any public outrage will be directed at them and ignore GOG, like usual.

GOG recently rejected a game I am interested in (Sunrider : Liberation Day) without commenting, although they already have pseudo-manga games ("Long live the queen") and games with some light nudity. Should I start a protest because "they obviously were afraid of a game that has both pseudo manga and partial nudity, the hypocrites", when other explanations (the fact that the first part of the game is a freeware, the amateurish design, the unbalanced tactical fights) exist? Or should I simply think "OK, their decision, maybe next game", and simply buy it from the dev?
cdpr has been doing a lot of shady things recently and if you still believe that anything they do is for the good of all then you should really wake up to this world filled with corporations doing whatever they can to get money, if after cdpr lying about the witcher 3 downgrade, selling to Microsoft for the witcher 3, being hypocritical with hatred, that controversy about the regional pricing of gog, still doesn't seem too shady for you to actually look at gog from a different perspective then I don't know what will wake you up to the fact that the game WAS rejected here cause gog is just a collection of hypocrites
Posted May 31, 2015
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Supremtin: cdpr has been doing a lot of shady things recently and if you still believe that anything they do is for the good of all then you should really wake u
I've never thought they wanted to "do good". They are a business, so they do money as they see fit. They're just nicer about it than some because they rely on customer loyalty, but I have no illusion they want my money, not my friendship. And I've got no problemn with it, as long as I benefit from it too.

So I'm not this fabled "fanboy in dreamland" you're fantasizing about (by the way, your rant really makes you look like a disappointed ex-fanboy lashing out in anger after he got his own wake up call. It's probably not the case, since your profile says you're a pretty new user, but it really sounds like it). That's in fact in part the reason I'm fine with them not carrying it : As a business, they have a right to make the business decision they think opportune, and not uphold some lofty principles like defending a crappy game's "right to exist and be distributed everywhere".

But in the post you quoted, I'm just saying your reasoning is flawed. Hatred is no different from all the other games that get rejected here on a dayly basis. So there could be MANY reasons to this rejection, like there are for all those other games you don't seem to care about. You choose to be paranoid about it and believe in some "thought police" mentality from GOG? Fine, it's your right. But don't expect us to agree when you disguise that opinion as an "obvious fact", because it's not. We do NOT know why it was rejected, and there is NOTHING obvious about it.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by Kardwill
Posted May 31, 2015
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Kardwill: They NEVER tell why they reject a game, apart from a very generic and uninformative "too niche" or "hope your next product will be a better fit" sometimes. Basic professional courtesy : You don't talk to the public about your business relationships/negociations/opinions regarding your potential partners. Never. Well, you don't do it if you want to be taken seriously by other serious outfits like Disney and work with them, at least. It would poison your relationship with all your other potential partners.

We don't know why GOG rejected Braid, one of the most acclaimed indies. We don't know why they first rejected (and then accepted) the Cat Lady. We don't know why they rejected the Winter Wolves games when their dev really wanted them here and offered his bestselling titles.

- They could have decided the game was not good enough/not "special" enough/not finished enough

- They could have disagreed about the pricing

- They could have disliked the way the devs created and exploited the controversy for marketting purpose (The AO thing being the most glaring : That rating is the result of a form they sent themselves to the ESRB. They didn't have to do it if they wanted a PC download only release, and they didn't have to gloat about the brutality of the game, when many other devs did worse and only got a "M".)

- They could have decided they had enough "mindless slaughter" games for now, and didn't need another (unexceptional) one for now

- They could simply dislike the game on a personal level. Very valid reason not to have something in your store

- They could think the game will not sell enough (yeah, I know 3500+ wishlist, but their marketting guys may think most of those wishes are simply political posturing, which will not become sales when real money will be involved)

- The dev might have bullied a GOG staffer in 5th grade

- OR they might be afraid of the attention an AO "Breivik simulator" might draw to their store, like you said. Which I kinda doubt since they already have AO games, psychokiller games and mindless slaughter games (they even did a "blood and mayhem" promo last week), and more importantly, because Steam already has the game, so any public outrage will be directed at them and ignore GOG, like usual.

GOG recently rejected a game I am interested in (Sunrider : Liberation Day) without commenting, although they already have pseudo-manga games ("Long live the queen") and games with some light nudity. Should I start a protest because "they obviously were afraid of a game that has both pseudo manga and partial nudity, the hypocrites", when other explanations (the fact that the first part of the game is a freeware, the amateurish design, the unbalanced tactical fights) exist? Or should I simply think "OK, their decision, maybe next game", and simply buy it from the dev?
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Supremtin: cdpr has been doing a lot of shady things recently and if you still believe that anything they do is for the good of all then you should really wake up to this world filled with corporations doing whatever they can to get money, if after cdpr lying about the witcher 3 downgrade, selling to Microsoft for the witcher 3, being hypocritical with hatred, that controversy about the regional pricing of gog, still doesn't seem too shady for you to actually look at gog from a different perspective then I don't know what will wake you up to the fact that the game WAS rejected here cause gog is just a collection of hypocrites
We have proof that CDPR is lying about the Witcher 3 downgrade, but we do not have proof that GoG is being evil with hatred.
Posted May 31, 2015
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Supremtin: cdpr has been doing a lot of shady things recently and if you still believe that anything they do is for the good of all then you should really wake u
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Kardwill: But in the post you quoted, I'm just saying your reasoning is flawed. Hatred is no different from all the other games that get rejected here on a dayly basis. So there could be MANY reasons to this rejection, like there are for all those other games you don't seem to care about. You choose to be paranoid about it and believe in some "thought police" mentality from GOG? Fine, it's your right. But don't expect us to agree when you disguise that opinion as an "obvious fact", because it's not. We do NOT know why it was rejected, and there is NOTHING obvious about it.
No different from other games that get rejected here? lol are you serious, this game has built so much controversy that it caused twitch to ban the broadcasting of AO games just a week before its release, this game is not in anyway similar to the games that's been rejected here, this is a game purely about rage and murdering innocents that got pulled from steam greenlight, at least valve wasn't being asses like gog and actually told us the reason why they removed the game and do you know what happened after that? they got so much backslash that they were forced to put up the game again, from gogs perspective I can clearly see they wouldn't want to give a reason for them not hosting the game other than ''because of reasons beyond our control" http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/05/hatred-developer-says-gog-refuses-to-distribute-the-game/ , if it isn't obvious to you that they just don't want the game here because they don't agree with its content and motives and are just keeping quiet because they don't want to go through what happened with steam because of this game then clearly youre being the fanboy and a naïve one at that
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