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I kind of lost interest in this when I read that the first game is going to be based on the Playstation version instead of the slightly more graphically impressive Saturn version. Seems like a lost opportunity there.
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andysheets1975: I kind of lost interest in this when I read that the first game is going to be based on the Playstation version instead of the slightly more graphically impressive Saturn version. Seems like a lost opportunity there.
“We want to be clear, the Grandia HD Collection are not ports of the original PlayStation games, they are remasters,” a GungHo Online Entertainment representative said. “We are using the original PlayStation code of Grandia, but working with the Sega Saturn version to craft the definitive version of this beloved RPG.”

source: https://gematsu.com/2019/06/grandia-hd-collection-e3-2019-gameplay-screenshots-and-information-tidbits

So basically you are NOT wrong but what i think they are trying to say is that they will add Saturn version assets onto the PS1 source code. At least that is my logical deduction of the above.
Ahh Grandia... That real time battle system pausing at commands... The light-hearted tones... I prefere the first so damn good news!
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Mafwek: ...
Just a heads up, the game got into a promotion right after our little conversation, same as always, 50% off, but I ended up buying it.

Let's hope I get into it soon enough. ^_^
I would be interested in trying the original Grandia if it got released here (and it can run on my system, of course).

Having looked at a walkthrough, there is one little tweak that would significantly improve the game if they did it:
* When *spoiler* leaves your party for good, the game should give you back any mana eggs that you used on that character; this would fix one issue that the game has (and that most hurts players who are playing the game blind, that is, without a walkthrough or other knowledge about what's going to happen).

I note that Grandia 2, to my understanding, does something similar; when a character leaves for good, you get items that allow you to transfer the work you put into giving a character skills to another character.
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dtgreene: Having looked at a walkthrough, there is one little tweak that would significantly improve the game if they did it:
* When *spoiler* leaves your party for good, the game should give you back any mana eggs that you used on that character; this would fix one issue that the game has (and that most hurts players who are playing the game blind, that is, without a walkthrough or other knowledge about what's going to happen).
Grandia (and, as far as I remember, none of its successors, including II) gives you consumable items when characters leave, which return most of your investments into that character. Given that mana eggs and magic work differently in every Grandia game, and it's been years since I've played, I can't comment further, other than to say that I never noticed it being an issue. Maybe you can find a copy and run it in an emulator to see for yourself.
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Hikage1983: Just a small correction there. Grandia 2 is not being updated, just renamed.
I'd say that's a huge correction, not a small one.

So is the GOG version of Grandia 2 going to be 100% identical to the Steam version of Grandia 2? If not, that would be a gigantic problem. If so, then great, everything is as it should be in that regard.
Post edited July 08, 2019 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Where the hell is the update for Grandia II?
GOG, do something, we are being treated like crap.
Well, if it comes to GoG (Collection, Grandia 1 and 2) i would pay full price, twice as much as the highest price on Steam. Although not sure the Publisher will truly bother because to them "DRM free" could simply be some sort of unnecessary hassle.

At least until they notice, no one can prevent a good game from being released elsewhere... free and cracked... but usually it takes a very long time for them to realize this fact. Or they may not even bother because GoG-Version is always higher in demand than a cracked version, this is itself some sort of hassle if not paid well.

"Paid well" means... more than what they may get on GoG... on Steam!

However, the force on the GoG-side was increasing more than on the Steam-Side, the last couple of years... so there is room for hope. To many publishers, GoG is a good option and choice, not a "second choice".
Post edited June 17, 2021 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: Well, if it comes to GoG (Collection, Grandia 1 and 2) i would pay full price, twice as much as the highest price on Steam. Although not sure the Publisher will truly bother because to them "DRM free" could simply be some sort of unnecessary hassle.

At least until they notice, no one can prevent a good game from being released elsewhere... free and cracked... but usually it takes a very long time for them to realize this fact. Or they may not even bother because GoG-Version is always higher in demand than a cracked version, this is itself some sort of hassle if not paid well.

"Paid well" means... more than what they may get on GoG... on Steam!

However, the force on the GoG-side was increasing more than on the Steam-Side, the last couple of yers... so there is room for hope. To many publishers, GoG is a good option, not a "second choice".
Grandia 2 was already on GOG some time ago, it got removed. I don't believe the original Grandia ever made it over here. Given that both games are still available on Steam, it doesn't seem likely the publisher has any interest in selling the Grandia games on this platform.
Grandia (1) has never been released on GoG, and the released (now withdrawn) Grandia 2 was simply almost a 1:1 port from Dreamcast, not much changes made.

I guess, Grandia 2 did not have sufficient sells on GoG, so Steam was simply the "better" option to them. As long as everyone around the world is buying the Steam-Version... mission accomplished, this is the way they probably feel.

I think, the majority of the people may not buy this game, unless its on sale or until they get theyr hands on a cracked version. So, the only reason Steam is affordable to them is the excessive amount of members using it. In other words... there is no need making the same cheap "offer" on GoG, more important making it available to a smaller community who simply appreciate the very best version.

Never lose hope. sometimes it`s just a matter of time.
Post edited June 17, 2021 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: Well, if it comes to GoG (Collection, Grandia 1 and 2) i would pay full price, twice as much as the highest price on Steam. Although not sure the Publisher will truly bother because to them "DRM free" could simply be some sort of unnecessary hassle.

At least until they notice, no one can prevent a good game from being released elsewhere... free and cracked... but usually it takes a very long time for them to realize this fact. Or they may not even bother because GoG-Version is always higher in demand than a cracked version, this is itself some sort of hassle if not paid well.

"Paid well" means... more than what they may get on GoG... on Steam!

However, the force on the GoG-side was increasing more than on the Steam-Side, the last couple of yers... so there is room for hope. To many publishers, GoG is a good option, not a "second choice".
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quirkyhug: Grandia 2 was already on GOG some time ago, it got removed. I don't believe the original Grandia ever made it over here. Given that both games are still available on Steam, it doesn't seem likely the publisher has any interest in selling the Grandia games on this platform.
I would love a port of the Saturn version with all the dialogue intact and uncensored. Sega should've brought that over vs. just ONE part of "Shining Force 3".
There is the problem: Sega... such as many other "huge japanese companies" are pretty conservative in the term of "how theyr games will be handled and published", therefore Sega, Capcom and some more huge companies rarley are publishing any games at all on GoG. As long as Steam works out so well for them, there is simply few reason and they will feel more secure because of additional protection. Of course, useless on the "long run" but the issue is... most of the bucks is made in the very beginning of any game and as soon as a game is turning "old" the sells is usually decreased a lot. So, in order to "keep a game new and fresh"; they may simply re-release any given game or adding DLCs, so, keeping it "renewed"... this is the way how they handle both Grandia to some terms.

However, this is not the way a true fan would enjoy it. It does not matter because most Steam-Users are NOT true fans, they are some "younger generation kids" enjoying the hype of a freshly released remake or remaster, that`s all, no rocket science. A true fan of course may enjoy a raw game, completly uncut and as close to the Original-releases as possible. It will not grant much cash... nowadays you need to sell old stuff in a way like "it is completly new"... sounds odd but unfortunately this is the way the industry is heading.

Besides, Grandia is not owned by Sega: It`s the property of Game Arts, nowadays a minor company trying to fullfill the wishes from some more "powerful" publishers such as the way bigger "player" known as "GungHo Online Entertainment", so you may be knocking at theyr doors.
Post edited June 17, 2021 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: There is the problem: Sega... such as many other "huge japanese companies" are pretty conservative in the term of "how theyr games will be handled and published", therefore Sega, Capcom and some more huge companies rarley are publishing any games at all on GoG. As long as Steam works out so well for them, there is simply few reason and they will feel more secure because of additional protection. Of course, useless on the "long run" but the issue is... most of the bucks is made in the very beginning of any game and as soon as a game is turning "old" the sells is usually decreased a lot. So, in order to "keep a game new and fresh"; they may simply re-release any given game or adding DLCs, so, keeping it "renewed"... this is the way how they handle both Grandia to some terms.

However, this is not the way a true fan would enjoy it. It does not matter because most Steam-Users are NOT true fans, they are some "younger generation kids" enjoying the hype of a freshly released remake or remaster, that`s all, no rocket science. A true fan of course may enjoy a raw game, completly uncut and as close to the Original-releases as possible. It will not grant much cash... nowadays you need to sell old stuff in a way like "it is completly new"... sounds odd but unfortunately this is the way the industry is heading.

Besides, Grandia is not owned by Sega: It`s the property of Game Arts, nowadays a minor company trying to fullfill the wishes from some more "powerful" publishers such as the way bigger "player" known as "GungHo Online Entertainment", so you may be knocking at theyr doors.
Getting some SMT on here would be great and actually fit how GOG started but FAT chance of that. I mean let Atlus dump ALL the SMT stuff and side story stuff. I don't CARE if it's translated, I just want access to it.
Atlus? Most known games is Persona- and Shin Megami Tensei-Franchises. There is just a few games released on Steam and nothing on GoG. It is one of the most conservative dev ever. I give it as good as no chance for any GoG release at all. You`re still allowed to dream, this is very human-like. If you want to have true access, hard to avoid without using a console system... and a bit of access on Steam i guess.

Grandia HD Collection is another story, the chance is a good bit bigger, still... the new publishing is kinda going one step forward into more DRM and higher restrictions: Switch and Steam the prefered plattforms. Although, both versions can be cracked pretty soon. Switch got a exploit... it`s already on homebrew those days. The only issue: A physical copy is extemely rare and the physical game of Grandia HD Collection is now sold on Ebay for over 200 USD already... because way lesser offer than demand.

So, overall... hard to catch this game, except on Steam.
Post edited June 18, 2021 by Xeshra