Which of course I did.

Yeah, sure.

This! And the "best" is their reasoning: "well, Steam never promised me DRM-free games, so THEY didn't break their word!"

It's like leaving your spouse for cheating on you, but your newly chosen SO is generally known for excessive cheating.
And when people then ask you how these two facts go together, you answer "well, my new partner never promised to stay faithful, so if S/HE's cheating on me, it's totally different!"

Bingo!

Steam drm is very light.

Which I don´t think is legal.
+1

It turns your games into cracked versions*. And it won't work for other DRM, like Denuvo.

(*I'm not judging, DRM shouldn't exist.)

It is legal and im not talking about something like that
Yeah you can remove denuvo only with that or if the developer decides to remove it. But i don’t buy games with denuvo anyway

I´m ignorant on this matter. But, don´t steam and the developers put DRM in their products for a reason? Isn´t it illegal to erase it without their consent?

It's the definition of a crack, and the legality of it depends on your location. In the EU? Yeah. In the US, it's not legal, even if it should be.

I’m not sharing the games with anyone. I’m just preserving them if steam goes down one day. But according to valve they have measures for that matter….but can you full trust on that? Im against drm but i consider steam only drm as very light which it really is but 3 party launchers denuvo i don’t care about. Im talking about goldberg and steamless. Goldberg is basically an emulator

Could you kindly stray back closer to the GOG survey topic topic, and edit your previous posts to remove the crack stuff -- lest we get the thread locked for your breaking of the CoC? I'd hate to see yet another good thread closed.

Well ... "illegal" is a strong word maybe, but it's definitly in violation of the licence agreement.
And it has been done for decades.

I've not studied the API docs that extensively, and I don't use Galaxy, but doesn't Galaxy allow you run games sourced elsewhere? And if so, and because you can also purchase through Galaxy, wouldn't it need an ownership check to say buy a DLC etc for the selected game? And what about multiplayer, where it is DRM, there would likely need to be a check for ownership there too.

I am not necessarily negating what you are saying, just looking for clarity.

And I certainly don't like what I have read about the Galaxy DLL that comes with the Offline Installer versions, what it does, just in case the customer decides to switch over to using Galaxy. I don't think it should be present in the first place, but you should certainly be able to delete it without causing a problem. At need, Galaxy should just be able to download the appropriate DLL for the selected game.

A lot of people in my experience, tolerate DRM and see it as a necessary evil to protect the seller's rights, and not just for games but for lots of other media too. Most of them don't sit there grumbling about the copyright message at the start of movies for instance like I do, they just have a quiet acceptance of it, just like many of them do with adverts, something else I hate. So many just accept passively and barely think about DRM. In short it rarely ruins their day, if ever.

And many gamers think nothing of paying exorbitant prices for new release AAA games, whereas if we all stood firm, the prices would be much lower. There is just no convincing a lot of people, where their wants and must haves are concerned, and most just don't have the wit to understand the finer elements of copyright and DRM. No doubt because they have been a fed a lot of bullshit about piracy losses and so forth. I'm not saying piracy doesn't do some harm, but nowhere like they claim, and not that different financially, to spending money on advertising. Word of mouth and sharing is still the best promotion method out there.

Oh for a world built on trust, where I am sure the huge majority would do the right thing.

I edited them but what i was talking about isn’t technically that matter