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Posted August 17, 2022
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I found a lot of good offers in the QuakeCon Sale email that I received including 'Flash Sale' offers.
I have around €50 worth of games lined up that I do not have at GOG. I already have all the games over at Steam and I find out that I have all the games at Steam already. Prior when the GOG.com Downloader still worked the I wouldn't have cared that I had the game at Steam, I would just have looked at the great offer and thought what a nice opportunity to support GOG and DRM FREE. But since GOG refuse to supply good DRM FREE 'backup files' download options for my games then I simply can not be bothered to have to do the downloads and if all that GOG wants me to do is to use the Galaxy Client for install and refuse to supply me with as good and easy 'backup file' download options of my purchases as the GOG.com Downloader gave me then why the hell should I bother buying from GOG when I already have a Steam installer ?

I am writing this here not because I think that GOG for a moment will care to change this but because I might as well continue to make this a public debate since GOG support can't change it and GOG corporate won't change it (they have been told repeatedly by me and others that it simply won't do with the present lack of good download options after retiring the GOG.com Downloader !)
I also repeatedly told them to build in as good or better DRM FREE 'backup file' download options via the Galaxy Client but they do not care ! (I told them to build in a list of my purchases with a download all 'backup files' button next to each game purchase )
Post edited August 17, 2022 by FiatLux
Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: I found a lot of good offers in the QuakeCon Sale email that I received including 'Flash Sale' offers.
I have around €50 worth of games lined up that I do not have at GOG. I already have all the games over at Steam and I find out that I have all the games at Steam already. Prior when the GOG.com Downloader still worked the I wouldn't have cared that I had the game at Steam, I would just have looked at the great offer and thought what a nice opportunity to support GOG and DRM FREE. But since GOG refuse to supply good DRM FREE 'backup files' download options for my games then I simply can not be bothered to have to do the downloads and if all that GOG wants me to do is to use the Galaxy Client for install and refuse to supply me with as good and easy 'backup file' download options of my purchases as the GOG.com Downloader gave me then why the hell should I bother buying from GOG when I already have a Steam installer ?

I am writing this here not because I think that GOG for a moment will care to change this but because I might as well continue to make this a public debate since GOG support can't change it and GOG corporate won't change it (they have been told repeatedly by me and others that it simply won't do with the present lack of good download options after retiring the GOG.com Downloader !)
I also repeatedly told them to build in as good or better DRM FREE 'backup file' download options via the Galaxy Client but they do not care ! (I told them to build in a list of my purchases with a download all 'backup files' button next to each game purchase )
Man, you have several options, Galaxy is DRM Free and it works perfectly for what you want, I've got some backup installers. I don't see the point of being against Galaxy, it's practical, not resource heavy and you can delete it whenever you want. I saw other alternative that create backups on the forum. Yet my recommendation is the same, use Galaxy, is better.
Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: I also repeatedly told them to build in as good or better DRM FREE 'backup file' download options via the Galaxy Client but they do not care ! (I told them to build in a list of my purchases with a download all 'backup files' button next to each game purchase )
You mean something like this?
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Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: But since GOG refuse to supply good DRM FREE 'backup files' download options for my games
You can a) download the "offline backup game installers" via your browser or b) use Galaxy as "downloader" for your offline installers.
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Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: snip
Never had a problem downloading my games via browser.
Posted August 17, 2022
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BreOl72: Never had a problem downloading my games via browser.
That's definitely a big problem, especially for huge games that are over 10 Gigs, because you have to manually click on each file, and there are many files per game if the game is big, which is an aggravating, tedious, time-consuming process. How did you "avoid" having to go through that process if you downloaded via browser? There is no way to avoid it.

And it's also a big problem because the file names as they are named by GOG on the website do not correctly correspond to the file names that you actually end up downloading, and the discrepancy between the numbering systems between those two things adds to the aggravation & tedium of having to manually check over if you acquired all the parts of all the files correctly.

Those things leave a lot of room for human error, i.e. accidentally failing to downloaded all parts of a game because you didn't manually click on & save all of them correctly...which is also another huge problem with downloading via browser, in addition to the inherent tedium & aggravation problems that I've already described.
Post edited August 17, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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BreOl72: Never had a problem downloading my games via browser.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: That's definitely a big problem,[...] because you have to manually click on each file, and there are many files per game if the game is big, which is an aggravating, tedious, time-consuming process. [...] There is no way to avoid it.
Well, that may be a big problem for some, but not for me.
Posted August 17, 2022
@OP - While Galaxy can indeed download offline installers for a game with one click, it is not the only option out there.

You can also use either of the following on Windows, that use the GOG SDK.

gogcli.exe

gogrepo.py (this requires you also install Python 3 and some additional libraries).

Both use a cookie file for login requirements.

Like you I preferred the old GOG Downloader, and wish GOG would now do a Galaxy Lite version as its replacement, but I have used both of the above to good effect, especially gogcli.exe without a Python requirement.

Using something like Free Download Manager 5 used to be another good alternative too, despite requiring multiple clicks to queue up the downloads. But links now time out I have been told.
Posted August 17, 2022
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Timboli: @OP - While Galaxy can indeed download offline installers for a game with one click, it is not the only option out there.

You can also use either of the following on Windows, that use the GOG SDK.

gogcli.exe

gogrepo.py (this requires you also install Python 3 and some additional libraries).

Both use a cookie file for login requirements.

Like you I preferred the old GOG Downloader, and wish GOG would now do a Galaxy Lite version as its replacement, but I have used both of the above to good effect, especially gogcli.exe without a Python requirement.

Using something like Free Download Manager 5 used to be another good alternative too, despite requiring multiple clicks to queue up the downloads. But links now time out I have been told.
Thank you for the tip.
The GOG.com Downloader would automatically create a sub directory with game name for all file and as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that (DownThemAll FDM , etcetera)
Also using the 'old way' and GOG.com Downloader I think that there were less clicking in general. It's far too time-consuming and annoying to have to use any standard Windows 'Download managers' and only people with no actual idea with respect to the problem would suggest them as a replacement for the GOG.com Downloader !
As for the suggested gogrepo.py then I'm not going to use anything that runs any third party script that I do not understand or do not feel comfortable to put my trust in (I don't give a rats but with respect to if other use tool).
With respect to the gogcli then I don't think that I will be comfortable to use such a 'third party' tool , because at best it is a third party tool with a limited user group which in it's very nature would make it a lot less secure to use than 'standard' tools. Also , and I feel rather strong about this, I should *not* have to use a third party tool on a site like GOG ! (I do not use 'third party' help tools on Steam either despite I would think third-party Steam tools to have many more users than third-party GOG tools) . What other people do is up to them but my account on Steam never got hacked where as many others have had their account hacked !
Post edited August 17, 2022 by FiatLux
Posted August 17, 2022
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Timboli: @OP - While Galaxy can indeed download offline installers for a game with one click, it is not the only option out there.

You can also use either of the following on Windows, that use the GOG SDK.

gogcli.exe

gogrepo.py (this requires you also install Python 3 and some additional libraries).

Both use a cookie file for login requirements.

Like you I preferred the old GOG Downloader, and wish GOG would now do a Galaxy Lite version as its replacement, but I have used both of the above to good effect, especially gogcli.exe without a Python requirement.

Using something like Free Download Manager 5 used to be another good alternative too, despite requiring multiple clicks to queue up the downloads. But links now time out I have been told.
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FiatLux: Thank you for the tip.
The GOG.com Downloader would automatically create a sub directory with game name for all file and as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that (DownThemAll FDM , etcetera)
Also using the 'old way' and GOG.com Downloader I think that there were less clicking in general. It's far too time-consuming and annoying to have to use any standard Windows 'Download managers' and only people with no actual idea with respect to the problem would suggest them as a replacement for the GOG.com Downloader !
As for the suggested gogrepo.py then I'm not going to use anything that runs any third party script that I do not understand or do not feel comfortable to put my trust in (I don't give a rats but with respect to if other use tool).
With respect to the gogcli then I don't think that I will be comfortable to use such a 'third party' tool , because at best it is a third party tool with a limited user group which in it's very nature would make it a lot less secure to use than 'standard' tools. Also , and I feel rather strong about this, I should *not* have to use a third party tool on a site like GOG ! (I do not use 'third party' help tools on Steam either despite I would think third-party Steam tools to have many more users than third-party GOG tools) . What other people do is up to them but my account on Steam never got hacked where as many others have had their account hacked !
I get your point, but like a said, Galaxy is not a bad option, it run great, it's practical and you can put your backups to download with a single click. I really don't understand why old users hate Galaxy so much, it's not a launcher that install redistributables every three minutes. I love Galaxy and I can still download games through the page without problems when I need it, I just download the parts in my phone when I'm not at home.
Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: Thank you for the tip.
The GOG.com Downloader would automatically create a sub directory with game name for all file and as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that (DownThemAll FDM , etcetera)
Also using the 'old way' and GOG.com Downloader I think that there were less clicking in general. It's far too time-consuming and annoying to have to use any standard Windows 'Download managers' and only people with no actual idea with respect to the problem would suggest them as a replacement for the GOG.com Downloader !
As for the suggested gogrepo.py then I'm not going to use anything that runs any third party script that I do not understand or do not feel comfortable to put my trust in (I don't give a rats but with respect to if other use tool).
With respect to the gogcli then I don't think that I will be comfortable to use such a 'third party' tool , because at best it is a third party tool with a limited user group which in it's very nature would make it a lot less secure to use than 'standard' tools. Also , and I feel rather strong about this, I should *not* have to use a third party tool on a site like GOG ! (I do not use 'third party' help tools on Steam either despite I would think third-party Steam tools to have many more users than third-party GOG tools) . What other people do is up to them but my account on Steam never got hacked where as many others have had their account hacked !
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Ruvika: I get your point, but like a said, Galaxy is not a bad option, it run great, it's practical and you can put your backups to download with a single click. I really don't understand why old users hate Galaxy so much, it's not a launcher that install redistributables every three minutes. I love Galaxy and I can still download games through the page without problems when I need it, I just download the parts in my phone when I'm not at home.
And I 'get your point' but it still sounds as you have never used the GOG.com Downloader cause using Galaxy as is today/at the moment is *NOT* a good option (you will have to get someone else well versed in using both methods to tell you the difference I can not be bothered to have to do that !)(Have tried using Galaxy client for DRM FREE 'backup' / off-line installers + Goodies but it no good as a replacement for the GOG.com Downloader ! )
Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: The GOG.com Downloader would automatically create a sub directory with game name for all file and as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that
Both GOGrepo and Galaxy's backup download option do this.

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FiatLux: And I 'get your point' but it still sounds as you have never used the GOG.com Downloader cause using Galaxy as is today/at the moment is *NOT* a good option (you will have to get someone else well versed in using both methods to tell you the difference I can not be bothered to have to do that !)(Have tried using Galaxy client for DRM FREE 'backup' / off-line installers + Goodies but it no good as a replacement for the GOG.com Downloader ! )
I remember the GOG Downloader well and I still agree with Ruvika that Galaxy is better for downloading offline installers and extras than the Downloader was.
Post edited August 17, 2022 by my name is grompy catte
Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: The GOG.com Downloader would automatically create a sub directory with game name for all file and as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that
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my name is grompy catte: Both GOGrepo and Galaxy's backup download option do this.
What you mention were not referred to in the quote in question which said: "as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that (DownThemAll FDM , etcetera) "
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FiatLux: And I 'get your point' but it still sounds as you have never used the GOG.com Downloader cause using Galaxy as is today/at the moment is *NOT* a good option (you will have to get someone else well versed in using both methods to tell you the difference I can not be bothered to have to do that !)(Have tried using Galaxy client for DRM FREE 'backup' / off-line installers + Goodies but it no good as a replacement for the GOG.com Downloader ! )
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my name is grompy catte: I remember the GOG Downloader well and I still agree with Ruvika that Galaxy is better for downloading offline installers and extras than the Downloader was.
And I do not Agree !
Posted August 17, 2022
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my name is grompy catte: Both GOGrepo and Galaxy's backup download option do this.
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FiatLux: What you mention were not referred to in the quote in question which said: "as far as I know then none of the above suggested by other do that (DownThemAll FDM , etcetera) "
GOGrepo was absolutely mentioned in that post, please re-read:
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Timboli: gogrepo.py (this requires you also install Python 3 and some additional libraries).
You replied to that saying it didn't create subfolders. It does.


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FiatLux: And I do not Agree !
You're still welcome to disagree, but you were dismissing Ruvika's suggestion based on their sign up date so I just chimed in to say that I've been here even longer than you, used the downloader many times and I still think Galaxy does a better job. To turn the tables on your rebuttal of Ruvika, it sounds like you have not tried using Galaxy as a downloader.
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FiatLux: (you will have to get someone else well versed in using both methods to tell you the difference I can not be bothered to have to do that !)
It sounds to me that if you need someone well versed in using both methods (like me) then perhaps you don't know enough about Galaxy to be shutting Ruvika down like that. Have you actually tried using Galaxy to download installers? I don't mean installing games through Galaxy, I mean using it as a Downloader.
Post edited August 17, 2022 by my name is grompy catte
Posted August 17, 2022
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FiatLux: I found a lot of good offers in the QuakeCon Sale email that I received including 'Flash Sale' offers.
I have around €50 worth of games lined up that I do not have at GOG. I already have all the games over at Steam and I find out that I have all the games at Steam already. Prior when the GOG.com Downloader still worked the I wouldn't have cared that I had the game at Steam, I would just have looked at the great offer and thought what a nice opportunity to support GOG and DRM FREE. But since GOG refuse to supply good DRM FREE 'backup files' download options for my games then I simply can not be bothered to have to do the downloads and if all that GOG wants me to do is to use the Galaxy Client for install and refuse to supply me with as good and easy 'backup file' download options of my purchases as the GOG.com Downloader gave me then why the hell should I bother buying from GOG when I already have a Steam installer ?

I am writing this here not because I think that GOG for a moment will care to change this but because I might as well continue to make this a public debate since GOG support can't change it and GOG corporate won't change it (they have been told repeatedly by me and others that it simply won't do with the present lack of good download options after retiring the GOG.com Downloader !)
I also repeatedly told them to build in as good or better DRM FREE 'backup file' download options via the Galaxy Client but they do not care ! (I told them to build in a list of my purchases with a download all 'backup files' button next to each game purchase )
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Ruvika: Man, you have several options, Galaxy is DRM.
FTFY. ;-)
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