Yogs!!!!!! Very glad to see you playing :-D

SirPrimalform has claimed Town Rokebkocker
ZFR has claimed Vanilla Town
cristigale has claimed Town Deputy
Vitek flipped Town Miller

Lots of reading to really catch up on so if you have specific questions feel free to ask. Also, Adalia is only subbing in for bookwyrm for Day 2 only, Bookwyrm will return Day 3 if he is not NK’d.

Yaaaay! Welcome yogs!

Didn't you forget 'lynchproof' in your claim?

Cliff's notes: cristi is scum and so are you. Nothing against you personally, but you're in HSL's slot and he behaved quite scummy. At least I think so. bler disagrees.

Claimed roles:
cristi: town backup cop
SPF: town roleblocker
ZFR: town vanilla

...strange. No one claimed scum yet.
Oh and there was one flip. Vitek: town Miller.
And we didn't have lunch on Day 1 therefore everyone should be quite hungry now.

This claim is really bad.

It implies there is a "real" cop out there, so mafia never waste a nightkill on a backup cop, as that role is essentially VT until said real cop expires. This serves to explain why she survives every night.

It also says that if the real cop dies, she will become very important, and therefore key not to lynch her.

And finally, mafia know everybody's alignment, so if the "real" cop does die, her night actions are EZPZ to fake.

SPF's claim next.

I'll Bkock you in the roke!

Unvote cristigale


Ok, I didn’t pay much attention to the actual Roleblocker role but after yog’s post I went and researched it and saw this:
“Roleblocker is one of the most common Mafia power roles.”

Gives me some food for thought about SirPrimalform...

OK, so here's the claim, and not much content around it, but it appears this came at L-1, and everybody piled off the wagon?

Yeah, this is also bullshit.

Who jumped off the wagon as a result of this claim?


That's at time of his claim.

Unvoters from his wagon and their progression to EOD1:

trent -> cristi
ZFR -> flub -> cristi
Damnation -> cristi

If SPM is mafia, I 100% expect that at least one buddy would hop off that wagon. 13 player game, so assuming 3 mafia total, makes it likely only one would hop off. Quite amusing that all three unvoters landed on cristi!

Just simple wagonomics makes it unlikely to be the first one off, but this actually isn't clean here... I'd like to say ZFR's progression looks scummy in a vacuum, but with cristi's really bad claim... I just don't know if you had a team of SPF/cristi/? that the ? would jump from one bus to another. I guess ZFR comes off looking the worst here, as it's also unlikely that the ? in that group would place a dangerous vote at the end of the wagon that could push it for lynch, although I don't know Damnation as a player at all. (I like his avatar though!)

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This wasn't as useful as I hoped it would be, since all three unvoters landed on the exact same player, and I don't feel like ZFR (or any of them) really look bad here in a vacuum.

Man, that last post is pretty unreadable. Sorry everyone, it looks like I forgot how to English.

Bottom line is both role claims are independently scummy, but I couldn't find any hard evidence of partnership.

One thing is clear, though - and man, it's hard to remember the land of "maj required to lynch", but we MUST lynch today.

I'm good with either as both claims are just really, really horrible.

What are your thoughts on the brig mechanic in the game?

Furthermore, this counter-wagon is shit and should be burned to the ground.

I haven't read a single word from the Book twins, I'm just telling you that a counter-wagon to cristi that features cristi, ZFR, and SPF is utterly ridiculous. Get off.


I haven't really thought about it. Day phase jailkeeper. I'd probably be inclined to not even bother with it tbh

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Anyway... I mean, I realize it's probably not polite to parachute in three weeks into the game and just try to single-handedly hero this mf'er over the finish line... But those of you who kinda know my mafia career... it's hard not to.

I’m of the same opinion about the brig, just wondering what you thought. Lift and SirP are all kinds of gung ho to brig ZFR though which I find interesting.

So literally zero benefit to brigging a Townie. A Town player in the brig gets the roleblock of the Jailkeeper, without the protection. Can still be NK'd.

Yeah, I mean, it's a neat idea... and could come into play later on I guess... but just seems like a low-percentage play and more likely to do harm than good.

Finally someone else that sees the light :-)

Wait, are Lift and SPF wanting to brig ZFR because they Town-read him? As claimed Vanilla? I assumed so since nobody's voting for ZFR...

But how does this make any sense?

I guess under the theory Vanilla Town is an easy claim to fake, so he has to....

...wait I'm talking myself out of my own position as I'm typing lol...

Yeah, VT can't be harmed by brigging, so ZFR is either a) VT and telling the truth, or b) Mafia

Either case better to brig him than anyone else

brig ZFR

lmao

I now hate you :-P