You are dangerously underestimating cristigale as a player if you actually think that scum!her would not be prepared for the case she's on the chopping block at EoD, and your post #399 suggests that you don't; you actually say that she's a strong scum player. If that holds true, do you really think she'd drop the ball this badly this game as your current assumption suggests?


Who's wriggling? Going over our exchanges, it's you who's dodging my arguments when they point out holes and contradictions in your narrative; you've basically gone fingers in your ears, and "la la la la la la la, not listening; I said you're scum, and that's it, la la la la la la la".

Want some more proof? You conveniently keep leaving out what the actual point of my post $602 was, to make me look as if I was just sitting there twiddling my thumbs, and waiting for time to run out. Here, let me quote it for you [emphasis added], though I'm sure you'll just going to ignore it. Again. For the nth time now. In those "less than 5min" something quite alarming was taking shape, and my brain focused on it for a few moments in a critical and time sensitive situation. How absurd of me to try and weigh it all!


This is right out the gate. Bookwyrm627 is talking specifically about scum communication/collaboration, and how throwing a wrench to that doesn't hurt town on the same, yet you make an argument that ignores the context that's clearly set in Bookwyrm627's post you quoted. The perhaps more interesting thing about this, is that you never replied back, nor answered his question, when Bookwyrm627 addressed this (post #419), even though you made a number of posts before retiring for the Day. So, why didn't you?


[emphasis added]

Also addressed by Damnation in the meantime, but 2nd misrepresentation in the same post. Damnation never hinted at having figured out flubbucket's role - post #250, he says he's got an idea who flubbucket is flavourwise, nothing about roles, zlitch about alignments. A post you even link to Damnation during that back and forth of yours, and even insist you're right in your posts #465 and #472. You took that all back today, and apologised for the misunderstanding, because you hadn't made the Orange Case connection. Which is rather interesting since you seem to remember just about everything else related to the series, and quite well.

My point is that you tend to interpret what people say so that it fits your narrative, and insist that it's the way you say, no matter what people reply/explain to you. Could be town!you tunnelling, could be scum!you pushing your agenda. Based on what I've seen, I'm inclined more towards the latter than the former.



For me it doesn't make sense even if ZFR and cristigale are both scum, but do explain why it does for the two of you.



I've got a couple of comments and questions to address to you, but I'm heading to bed after I check my game updates, so it will have to wait until tomorrow.

As will properly going through the non-Lifthrasil posts, before and after the one of his I replied to.

Night all.

Pre-post edit to reply to ZFR as I just saw his post.

I thought that the timeline made it clear, but perhaps not. And I can't put the crappy forum software aside, because that's what we have, and it did play a role, nor cristigale (the why is in my reply).

The above conditions are from your PoV; you may have made your claim around the 40min mark (post #542), but I I didn't read it the moment you made it - see my post #547 saying that I had just processed SirPrimalform's claim (post #517), and hadn't read beyond his claim-post. I commented on your claim in post #578 as that was when I had read through the thread, and processed your claim (it didn't help that your post wasn't just a straightforward claim). That was shortly before the 15min mark (post #583), by which time cristigale was already sitting on 4 votes, i.e. she seemed an equally viable wagon at the time which got me debating who of the two to vote. I believe I've explained the rest a few times already.

So yes, if nothing else was happening before and when you claimed, you'd be right to expect me to vote you when you claimed VT. But that's not how it was, was it? Just go back and read through the posts.

But let me ask you something - you concluded that I didn't vote you because I'm scum. Tell me, what exactly is the motive, goal, and gain from not lynching you for scum!me? Unless your argument is that you're my scum-buddy and I didn't want to bus you (as Lifthrabbit thinks), why did I choose to let you live if I were scum? Same for letting it go to No-Lynch. Even if you assume that I'm scum with cristigale, why wouldn't I lynch you since you aren't on my team? I mean, scum!me should be happy with a dead townie at every EoD, so why not at EoD1?

OK, goodnight for real now.