A wedge is an interesting shape.

This has been a bump.

I underlined the answer to the second question.

Maybe Damnation's claim is legit, and we've got not only a Doctor that can follow the Cop, but an extra Cop in case the Doctor isn't good enough at keeping the Cop alive.

Anyway, the claimed sighting of Lift near the kill site IS filthy. If legit, it means the mod is privately hinting to a single player that another player did something. As Lift said, that's adding tracker aspects to the doctor role.

As SPF himself pointed out, my finishing off the brig wagon didn't move Trent any farther away from lynch.

EBWOP: That sentence should of course have read: "I'm a bit alarmed by the way no one else sees Book's little plan as being a bad idea."

Are you saying Bler is on my team? Because my original proposal was that you would never see N3 at all; he's the one that seemed to prefer a Damnation lynch over an SPF lynch.

Your original statement was far more correct. Joe already called my plan bad. No one except me seems to like it.

You're right, I must have misremembered. Your plan is marginally less scummy than I thought.

There hasn't been as much alarm expressed as I thought it justified though.

Alas, only passing through. Skipped most of ZFR/Wyrm + ZFR/Ele arguing about logic. Was awake for chunks of the night and fell back asleep late and overslept a bit.
I mean, should still be back for EOD, but...probably not going to contribute anything more substantive.

Won't lynch
smurfs
butterflies
gems

Would lynch
...well, most of the rest of you. This gamestate is a bleeping mess.

I mean, lots of things are possible but this is a strange explanation, even flavour aside a la the points Lift/Wyrm made.

For one, if your gambit is to try and draw the NK...why are you trying to look scummier or make Wyrm look scummier? WIFOM and all, but generally scummier is less likely to draw NK, all things considered.

Plus the tactical problem that, even if it works you've drawn fire onto yourself as town doctor, and kinda have to self-shield as insurance, even if the net impact of your gambit draws fire onto Wyrm instead and maybe he's PR? And if it works and they do kill Wyrm (might be PR, might not), doesn't the whole thing lead to you being forced to claim...D2? Having already protected yourself N1?

For two, if your gambit is to try and draw the NK, as the doctor, even if you're not sure the gambit is working why do you run off and protect Lift on a 50/50?

But I do appreciate the effort here.

Logically though...on first read this is really kinda strange to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n0j2ZAqeVk



I'm so tired I barely remember yesterday. Refresh my memory?

But in the broadest sense no, I don't recall ever thinking "Hey, maybe damnation is doctor!"

*shrug* Considering you are one of the two named casualties from Phase 1, I wouldn't really expect you to be thrilled. Doubly so if you're scum, of course. :)

AHHHAhahahaHAHHahahAHAHahAHaa

man I do love this game sometimes

Our Town Doctor was trying to draw a nightkill, eh?

Bold strategy, Cotton.

SPF is brigged. ZFR is lead wagon. And I find Damanation's claim to be... slightly suspect.

Gentlemen, I recommend we stay this particular course.

I have no idea who "gems" is supposed to be.


Quoted relevant section below:

And lady. Apologies, ele.

Well Bookwyrm first said that if Damnation was town then it would mean Zephyr's probably mafia, but when Zephyr rephrased it contrarywise Bookwyrm stated that a town Zephyr doesn't necessarily mean town Damnation. Zephyr's right that that's a contradiction, but Bookwyrm's had quite a few contradictory logics, and I think ZFR's appearance of confidence in his town Damnation read based on something that Bookwyrm said then contradicted is also problematic. I see it's a case of neither of them really thinking it through.


That's so clever!

Right you immediately go on to way it's WI-frakken-FOM but still I would never have thought to compare them.

because me and bler asked him to. probably this has been pointed out to you already but... yadoi!


I'm not sure that's true...


Harsh. I'd defend Ele's right to use statistics any way she wants to. We're all playing a game.

ALSO the odds that any random 4-person bucket all contains scum is low! So surely it'd be sensible to assume against it!


lololol very good. If you were really putting your heart into it you would have gone on a bit longer and used more capital letters but I approve nonetheless.


and surely we can stop talking about it here... what do we gain from logically solving some nonsense that Bookwyrm spouted?


ha. yeah the language we're all using is pretty ambiguous. Implies can both mean 'logically follows on to' and 'makes a vague leap to'. Indicates has a similar problem. Let's stop talking about it now.


yeah, I seem to remember this is the kind of crazy thing damnation does and is why I love him.



Sapphires ya dumb lug!


YOGS - that is not helpful.
By stay the particular course, do you mean faff around until no-lynch??

I'm being dragged away now, so

unvote damnation

vote ZFR

but I REALLY hope I'll get back to it soon.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Ah ha! There's the connection I was missing. Neither "Joe" nor your avatar pic said anything about gems, and I didn't recall anything about your claim having any relevance to gems either.

This is exactly what I mean.

SPF is brigged, so no more roleblock. ZFR is today's lynch.

Damnation can be tracked, bler can be watched - admitting I hope that's a thing - and barring some kind of strongman shenanigans, bler will get another check at night. Tomrrow dawns, and absolute worst case scenario (ZFR somehow Town, bler strongman killed), Day 4 starts with 3M5T, two hard-cleared townies via cop. Best case scenario, we start Day 4 2M6T and three cop checks, which I do believe if my mathin' is good, is mechanically locked. And in any scenario - best, worst, or something in-between - there's more information via role action to sew it up.

Just to correct you here:

My town!Damnation read is not based on Wyrm's contradiction. In fact I only noticed the contradiction the next day. My town!Damnation read is based on his claim which I believe more than yog's softclaim.