Sorry, no glory for you.

Fair enough, I'll roll with that theory though I'm a bit torn on whether Wyrm or Yogs is leading me to the slaughter this time. Again.

unvote
unbrig
vote SirPrimalform
brig Trent

Maybe both this time. That would be novel!


Continue down the path - if SPF is maf, at some point he gets counter-claimed (or countered by flip) and lynched. If he's town and I cop him, I'm dead the one night and him the next, so ...I didn't really buy town much in that case other than a little short-term clarity.

Hey puzzle man.

Instead of pithy comments, how about you do some ****.

I wish I could help, but it's 10:22 pm. I'm still at work, and I can't even figure out what's the **** I'm supposed to be doing.

You...really think I'm lying? I mean, you maybe don't know me as well as yogs, but faking cop claims is kinda your gig, not mine, wouldn't you agree? I'm flattered you think it's even remotely in my range.

1) Yes, perhaps the player who said "Yeah, I'm not around much y'all probably should just lynch me" is the town cop. Seems likely.

How can I show you any of my breadcrumbs when no one has even asked for my full claim? It's no fun without that.

But seriously, it feels like you're stalling rather than moving on to the implications of what it means.

2) You can find that easily enough yourself. adalia says "Joe is just a more talkative flub!" and I say "that's bullfrak! he says plenty of stuff! adalia is wolfysomethingsomething!" and I forget where it goes from there. But later when I pause I think, hmm...maybe adalia had a point and that was just me tunneling him.

3) Not sure how to read your townparanoia/scumshade here. But seriously, I only postulated no cop to add wifom to the wifom on whether I was cop or not. Surely you aren't thinking there's really a backup cop with no cop here?

Is the only reason we're town-reading ZFR because of that one time he ate an entire Snickers bar by himself? And then got brigged that one time?

Pretty much, yes. The argument (from Trent, but also Vitek) has been that everything wolfy has just been inexperience, and that his observation on the sign up thread makes him lock town.

If you'd been here D1 any number of people could have been lynched. After D1 there really just hasn't been appetite to revisit it.

As trent put it,
"I also was not saying ZFR’s behavior has not been scummy, it has been on several occasions. I don’t know if it’s from his inexperience, nerves, or just his play style. What I was saying is if he flips town his lynch is the easiest one to blame voting him on him being a newbie and making mistakes because of it and that got him lynched. I felt from his posts he was more a frustrated townie whose inexperience was showing and that his wagon was gaining momentum when it shouldn’t have been. If people were truly concerned with ZFR looking like scum for the 4 posts I pointed out then they should have voted him when when I pointed it out not later on when another wagon was trying to gain momentum. ZFR’s wagon feels off." (#515)



Oh, and I'm Saul Tigh, Crew XO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNknUbBR0oY

I thought when I finally got to post that it would be more exciting, but it's kinda just sad now. Damnation is correct (as is the D2 flavor post) that the cop action is via Baltar's red/green machine.

Which raises lots of questions about whether a neutral is possible (probably not?), or a godfather is possible - maybe, could fake the lab sample, I guess, or whether the game can have any functional watcher/tracker mechanic - also definitely maybe.

Wait, we're going about this all wrong.

With clears of two living players and one mis-lynch left to spend, we can break the game open (despite ourselves) with any one more cop check - even a green one. Mafia cannot allow another cop check.

And we can virtually guarantee we get one...

I'm trying to think this through...

Unvote SirPrimalform

Brig SirPrimalform

If bler still gets blocked, SPF = Town
If bler not blocked SPF = Mafia

That's why the brig mechanic is here... and although I think the chance of SPF being Town is slim to squat, this mechanic gives us a chance to test out multiple things... can still put SPF firmly in the scum locker while essentially giving us an extra day to hunt.

Somebody brain check me on this.

The "my phone broke and I'm away from home, so I'm posting from a friend's computer" votecount.

Lynch:

JoeSapphire - 2 (adaliaBookwyrms, Lifthrasil)
SirPrimalform - 1 (bler144)
Lifthrasil - 1 (JoeSapphire)
Damnation - 1 (ZFR)

None - 5 (elebutterfly, Damnation, trentonlf, SirPrimalform, yogsloth)

Brig:

trentonlf - 2 (SirPrimalform, bler144)
Damnation - 1 (adaliaBookwyrms)
JoeSapphire - 1 (Lifthrasil)
SirPrimalform - 1 (yogsloth)

None - 5 (elebutterfly, JoeSapphire, Damnation, trentonlf, ZFR)

With 10 active players, it takes 6 votes to reach a consensus.

Day 3 will end at 23:00 UTC tomorrow, which is 25 hours from now. If you require an extension, please let me know as soon as possible.

feel free to edit that lol

bler ain't gettin' nightkilled

I feel like you should be hip to this

I should probably go for a bit, but I think the issue, even if your night plan works is bler+3 confirmed town is still subject to either a real GF or GF doubt, and in this equation I still doubt I live more than one night, if at all. SPF might really be the only protection. Or he might be scum. Mafia presumably either know or have a guess. Might also have a strongbad.

But even assuming your plan works, (no lynch) we're at 9 tomorrow. We've narrowed (probably, GF issue again) to hunting 2-3 scum in 5. Those are better odds, but not a lock. I die N4, and there are 3 "confirmed" town still standing in a field of 7. Still not quite certain.

If scum have a GF they can still gamble that I cop town or clear the GF, but even if they don't there's still a >50% chance I cop town that they could still spin. Maybe they hit another target and it happens to be who I cop. Maybe ele and/or Dangnation get mod-killed and the whole thing is moot, IDK.

If it works it improves the odds. But we could end up no lynching in any case, so I'm not opposed to doing no lynch (with brig!) in an organized fashion vs. a rushed lynch.

I should probably go RL for a bit. Will be back later. But realistically most of the crowd won't be back on til I'm off for the night. Not sure how much time I'll have in the morning.

I guess personally I'd like to see deadline extended to Friday since my calendar is free-ish Friday afternoon but currently not tomorrow, and we still have 2 players who I don't think have even been present since deadline was announced, but that's just my own feeling.

Would really like to see wyrm's POV of what this gamestate means, even if I understand he may still want to poke holes at actually believing it.

My plan isn't no lynch!!! Are you nuts?

My plan is to take the shot at two-for-one... brig one bad guy and lynch another AND get a cop check...

I would be very receptive to extending the deadline by up to 48 hours, especially due to the inactivity of two players.