Posted July 25, 2018
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Bookwyrm627
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Posted July 25, 2018
ZFR: Yeah, I found this very weird and was going to ask if this normally happens, since I thought flavour is just flavour. But since none of the more experienced players commented...
Generally speaking, it shouldn't happen. There are roles specifically for detecting things that go on at night. And you are sheeping like a bleep bloop this game Day.
All of them did, Yog! ALL OF THEM DID IT! WHY DID THEY DO IT?!
trentonlf: I totally missed the part in the Day 3 opening post about two shots in the front and six shots in the back.
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ZFR: I don't see scum!Joe doing the claim he did, pointing out the double kill and pretending to make a mistake.
Excuse me. I need to go cry softly in the corner.JoeSapphire
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my name is catte
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my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
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Posted July 25, 2018
JoeSapphire: My action says I approached him while he was at his desk, I shot him many times in the back then ran away.
The intro says two in the front and six in the back.
How can I read the flavour in any other way?
Sorry, it probably wasn't very clear but that was part of my Scum!Joe hypothesising, so I was assuming that what you told us about your PM was a fabrication and an attempt to capitalise on the D3 flavour. The intro says two in the front and six in the back.
How can I read the flavour in any other way?
Bookwyrm627: I'm guessing that means "Are they W/W?"
Assume scum!Book and scum!Trent. In the context of everything, who do you see as our 3rd?
At the time, yes. I thought ele was your third. But Joe's claim and people's responses to it have thrown all that up in the air. I had been townreading Joe, but the nature of his claim and the way it was claimed have made me doubt that. Assume scum!Book and scum!Trent. In the context of everything, who do you see as our 3rd?
I'm conflicted because I still don't town-read you and you're really pushing for Joe's lynch. BUT I don't exactly have Joe as super-town at this point. I would consider lynching Joe at this point.
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my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
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Posted July 25, 2018
Ok. I do feel like Joe has become a necessary point in the PoE by this point.
Vote JoeSapphire
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Posted July 25, 2018
but you can see how I was building this since the beginning of the day! I was deliberately blunt about asking SirP who he blocked, I was overly pushy with bler about his speculation of the night target, I made it clear I was suspicious of Trent without explicitly saying why: I was building up to the claim long before I'd been voted for!
And THEN I bothered to go and check and realised how stupid I'd been.
Have you ever played a game of mafia before where flavour provides clues?
On a scale of 1-10 for you, what's the possibility I'm telling the truth?
And THEN I bothered to go and check and realised how stupid I'd been.
Have you ever played a game of mafia before where flavour provides clues?
On a scale of 1-10 for you, what's the possibility I'm telling the truth?
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JoeSapphire
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Posted July 25, 2018
Spot the difference:
JoeSapphire: Morning all!
The first thing we should do before anything is find out who SirP targeted last night. No further information in terms of what the results were and verification from the target, but while his alignment is still in question we should get his claim before he has a chance to pick up any clues.
Second I've completely flipped my thoughts on ZFR. In the sobering time since the deadline I've come to believe his claim. I apologise for everything!
Also congratulations to vitek for getting himself nightkilled night 1. A very good tactic if you're playing a miller, I hope he's proud of himself.
In summary:
SirP should tell us who he targetted, but not what the results are.
No-one should say anything else on the subject for the moment, and we can review it later.
You don't see it? The second is so brief and direct as to deliberately give itself extra significance.The first thing we should do before anything is find out who SirP targeted last night. No further information in terms of what the results were and verification from the target, but while his alignment is still in question we should get his claim before he has a chance to pick up any clues.
Second I've completely flipped my thoughts on ZFR. In the sobering time since the deadline I've come to believe his claim. I apologise for everything!
Also congratulations to vitek for getting himself nightkilled night 1. A very good tactic if you're playing a miller, I hope he's proud of himself.
In summary:
SirP should tell us who he targetted, but not what the results are.
No-one should say anything else on the subject for the moment, and we can review it later.
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Posted July 25, 2018
JoeSapphire: Spot the difference:
It certainly didn't strike me as deliberately conspicuous at the time, just getting to the point. I assumed it was because you expected me to have blocked flub again to be honest. JoeSapphire: Morning all!
The first thing we should do before anything is find out who SirP targeted last night. No further information in terms of what the results were and verification from the target, but while his alignment is still in question we should get his claim before he has a chance to pick up any clues.
Second I've completely flipped my thoughts on ZFR. In the sobering time since the deadline I've come to believe his claim. I apologise for everything!
Also congratulations to vitek for getting himself nightkilled night 1. A very good tactic if you're playing a miller, I hope he's proud of himself.
In summary:
SirP should tell us who he targetted, but not what the results are.
No-one should say anything else on the subject for the moment, and we can review it later.
JoeSapphire: JoeSapphire: You don't see it? The second is so brief and direct as to deliberately give itself extra significance. The first thing we should do before anything is find out who SirP targeted last night. No further information in terms of what the results were and verification from the target, but while his alignment is still in question we should get his claim before he has a chance to pick up any clues.
Second I've completely flipped my thoughts on ZFR. In the sobering time since the deadline I've come to believe his claim. I apologise for everything!
Also congratulations to vitek for getting himself nightkilled night 1. A very good tactic if you're playing a miller, I hope he's proud of himself.
In summary:
SirP should tell us who he targetted, but not what the results are.
No-one should say anything else on the subject for the moment, and we can review it later.
It's pretty thin as an "I know something you don't know" softclaim.
Lifthrasil
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Posted July 25, 2018
Bookwyrm627: Scum!HSloth implicates scum!ZFR; scum!HSloth has no reason to avoid a town!ZFR lynch wagon even if HSL's vote wouldn't have been the hammer (and perhaps doubly so if he can get on the wagon without being the hammer). That close to deadline, HSL would have been able to come up with even a flimsy excuse and expect it to hold up when combined with "we gotta lynch if we're going to!" pressure.
But Scum!HSLoth didn't have any reason to avoid a town!cristi wagon either and in that case we know by now that cristi was town. JoeSapphire: On a scale of 1-10 for you, what's the possibility that I really could have been as stupid as I'm claiming?
Over 9000!!! ;-) I went back to think a bit. Someone, in fact several someones, expressed surprise at flubb being chosen as the NK target. Perhaps he was chosen because he was somewhat scummy so that it could be spun as a Vig kill if the need arises? Are you perhaps trying too hard to interpret the flavour of the NK in your favour?
Let's have a look at the fact that we had only one NK. That can mean several things:
Either what you say is true and a town Vig and scum chose the same target. Where the Vig had 9 targets to chose from and scum probably 7. That doesn't seem very likely.
Or town Vig shoots flubb and the scum NK is blocked. That would mean if Joe is town, trent has to be scum.
Or town Vig shoots flubb and scum graciously decide not to kill anyone. ... That's even more unlikely than case 1.
So, if I pick the most likely second case I have to decide who out of Joe and trent is scummier. ... And there the answer becomes easy: Joe. Or both, which is also possible. But overall trent seems like the townier of the two.
In conclusion, after re-thinking everything I think it is best to put my vote back where it was:
vote JoeSapphire
it's OK, Books. You can stop crying now!
Or if the majority thinks that Joe should be left alive in spite of killing flubb, let's at least:
brig JoeSapphire
I just don't want an admitted killer running around free. If he was a one-shot Vig, he is basically vanilla now. But if he is scum who did the NK, we might at least take him out of the night-chat pool from scum and hunt for the rest of his team.
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Posted July 25, 2018
Lifthrasil: But Scum!HSLoth didn't have any reason to avoid a town!cristi wagon either and in that case we know by now that cristi was town.
Bookwyrm627: That's why I'm clearing the HSloth slot as town. What I don't agree with, however, is you revealing that you have a PR. That was unnecessary. I am currently inclined to believe that you are town, because as scum you would have even less reason to draw attention to you out of the blue. But if you're town, you have made yourself a target without need to do so and you have narrowed the field for the cop hunt for scum. ... Ah well, what's done is done. If we do have a Doctor after all, at least he knows whom to protect. Which of course triggers another round of WIFOM.
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