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dedoporno: The Mason claimed Yesterday and revealed himself publicly Today. You're just not paying attention.
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Lifthrasil: True. But I can't find a Mason reveal from Today. Unless you mean Yog's unrecognizable Avatar joke.
Even without magnifying the image, one can recognize a freemason symbol in Yogs' avatar.
Lift is straight-out not reading

I mean, I'm not either, but I'm a potato. What's his excuse?
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Telika: so it's far far from "everybody believe joe is town tracker".
I meant that at the time of the claim, people believed the claim to be true.
It doesn't mean that people believe the claim right now.




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Catventurer: You may as well say what everyone is probably thinking:

There is no tracker in this game.
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yogsloth: Well, it seems unlikely, yes.

However.

This is GOG, and one thing that is resolutely true about GOG mafia is we design absurdly over-complicated, role-heavy setups.

Four players have died, and those four players all had top-tier roles.

A dead godfather necessitates a cop, so that's good to go. A dead mason necessitates another mason, so that's in.

I have to concede it is possible Mafia has got a roleblocker and a role cop, and every townie has something and this is just a straight role madness game.
It should be obvious that Mafia doesn't have a roleblocker.

Scene role claimed bodyguard.
Alto role claimed cop.

It's given that they're going to want Alto dead more than anyone else. If they can't kill Alto, they're going to want to keep him from investigating.

If they had a roleblocker, they would have blocked Scene and killed Alto directly so as to never have to deal with Alto again with the added bonus of Scene having to convince everyone that the reason he's alive is because he was blocked. If they had blocked Scene on night one and was not permitted to block him again on night two, mafia would have blocked Alto to keep him from investigating anyone.

However the situation we are in is that Scene is dead, and Alto appears to have successfully investigated someone.
This says that the mafia team has no roleblocker.
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Telika: He was careful to not say it explicitly but still it did count as an implicit lie.
Yet another bs. I never said everyone believed it to be true (I assume CatV is misremembering things but fortunately we are in a written medium and this is very easily verifiable). I said exactly this:

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dedoporno: Joe is a claimed and uncontested Tracker.
which was 100% true. I said that as CatV just put a vote on Joe's wagon that was gaining speed AFTER his claim. He could have very well been hammered and flip tracker.


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yogsloth: Lift is straight-out not reading

I mean, I'm not either, but I'm a potato. What's his excuse?
He's scum and looking for a way out.
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Catventurer: If they had a roleblocker, they would have blocked Scene and killed Alto directly
whoa whoa whoa

slow down hoss

you missed something
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Telika: so it's far far from "everybody believe joe is town tracker".
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Catventurer: I meant that at the time of the claim, people believed the claim to be true.
Yes, this is what I contest. But Dedo and Buck were hyper-actively giving this impression, even parroting the exact same sentence about it ("Joe is a claimed and uncontested Tracker" - 528, 537).
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Telika: Yes, this is what I contest. But Dedo and Buck were hyper-actively giving this impression, even parroting the exact same sentence about it ("Joe is a claimed and uncontested Tracker" - 528, 537).
I so hope you're scum. If you turn out not to be one I'll laugh at you. In a friendly manner but I will.
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Telika: He was careful to not say it explicitly but still it did count as an implicit lie.
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dedoporno: Yet another bs. I never said everyone believed it to be true (I assume CatV is misremembering things but fortunately we are in a written medium and this is very easily verifiable). I said exactly this:
Misremembering... Also when I say "everyone" - I do mean it not in a literal everyone sense but that I'm not pointing my finger at anyone going, haha that person wanted to save Joe. I do mean everyone as a more generalized idea due to the fact that the Joe lynch wagon didn't go through.

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yogsloth: you missed something
You don't think that the cop would be at the top of the list of roles that mafia wants to eliminate?
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Telika: Yes, this is what I contest. But Dedo and Buck were hyper-actively giving this impression, even parroting the exact same sentence about it ("Joe is a claimed and uncontested Tracker" - 528, 537).
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dedoporno: I so hope you're scum. If you turn out not to be one I'll laugh at you. In a friendly manner but I will.
(To be fair, I strongly believe that you are scum but yes, I do hope you aren't, just for hilarity sake. The perspective of being entirely wrong makes me giggle so much in anticipation that I'd be kinda disappointed in being right.)
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yogsloth: you missed something
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Catventurer: You don't think that the cop would be at the top of the list of roles that mafia wants to eliminate?
I think you're putting the mustard before the hot dog
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Telika: (To be fair, I strongly believe that you are scum but yes, I do hope you aren't, just for hilarity sake. The perspective of being entirely wrong makes me giggle so much in anticipation that I'd be kinda disappointed in being right.)
In that case I hope this will end up in laughter for both of us :)
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Telika: (To be fair, I strongly believe that you are scum but yes, I do hope you aren't, just for hilarity sake. The perspective of being entirely wrong makes me giggle so much in anticipation that I'd be kinda disappointed in being right.)
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dedoporno: In that case I hope this will end up in laughter for both of us :)
But frankly... Imagine if I was wrong.

That would mean that either Cat or Lifth are scum (or, even less likely, both, with Joe town). Meaning I'm not only wrong about you but also about them. What's your townie theory ? Catv ? Joe? Lifth ? You do mention Lifth, can you point out where he was hindered town's investigation ?
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Catventurer: You don't think that the cop would be at the top of the list of roles that mafia wants to eliminate?
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yogsloth: I think you're putting the mustard before the hot dog
Hmmm.... Are you suggesting that the tracker is real and the cop is fake?
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yogsloth: I think you're putting the mustard before the hot dog
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Catventurer: Hmmm.... Are you suggesting that the tracker is real and the cop is fake?
Nah, nah

I mean, I suppose that's possible, but probably nah

I mean let's have all the claims first before we try to really world-build
hi All,

i tracked scene, here's 4 why:

if scene's telling the truth it's looking pretty great for us: buck's godfather flip basically confirms atlo's role.
it could go wrong if the mafia have a blocker, and block atlo to kill elsewhere, or which i think would have been worse, block scene to kill atlo:
in that situation scene looks bad, so could have had some support from someone who can verify his movements

if scene's lying then i might see something to catch him. though i kinda Did think if scene was lying i'd probs be the target

well, scene targeted atlo and probably saved him. good job scene