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I'm not mafia
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csanjuro: I'm not mafia
I Can kinda tell from 116.
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Lifthrasil: Does that clarify my path of thoughts?
It does, thanks.


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supplementscene: I was literally gasping for air because of the pain. Today I've managed to be without too much pain while seated but I'm still stuggling to move around the house
That's nasty stuff. I remember how much my knee hurt after my operation. The early mornings were especially bad. I hope you feel better soon.


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Catventurer: @Dedoporn (Post #91) - I specifically meant that I've become so accustomed to Frosty being wacky and erratic that when when he made post that I found not to be either, I really didn't know how to read it or him. Although saying that, this isn't a terrible thing. :)
Sorry to bother you but can you remind me which post is that - the one that seems like neither to you?


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PookaMustard: If this game had bastard elements you would have known in the signup thread and it'll have been outlined in the rules post. So no, it doesn't.
That's precisely the sort of thing a bastard mod would say.


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FrostburnPhoenix: I Don't think Telika is new.
I'm pretty sure that's not the case but as far as I can tell it's been a really long absence and based on how we greeted AZ back a couple of games ago it should count, in my opinion.

That being said, who is our most senior player here outside of Telika? Catte, Joe - is it one of you, geezers? Have you played with Telika back in the day?

Speaking of Joe, where is he? The grace period has long passed and an official prod has been overdue for some time now.


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Atlo: I actually lean towards mafia.
Are you going to vote him for it?


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csanjuro: I'm not mafia
Are you Town, though?
I'm rushing from one meeting to the next today. So I won't be able to participate until tonight.
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dedoporno: That being said, who is our most senior player here outside of Telika? Catte, Joe - is it one of you, geezers? Have you played with Telika back in the day?
As I suspected that appears to be Catte who's been around from the very start so my question is mostly pointed towards him but I others able to share their own experience are most welcome.
*Wakes up from nap. Realizes something. Rushes to the other girls.*

Hey, during my naptime I figured out what bugged me so about Battle angel Alitas / Lifthrasils behavior. So...
I am convinced mafia has 2 approaches during the day:

a) Lay their heads low and hope to cruise by unnoticed. *cough* bucktooth, Ambiti0nZ, csanjuro *cough*

OR

b) Be helpful and gain trust.

One certain Battle Angel stands out in this regard.

Now, on the other side of the coin...
*looks at Nadeko Sengoku who is still jumping around and has somehow, for some reason, managed to put a bucket on her head.*
on the other side of the coin... one who draws attention to herself cannot possibly be mafia!

I am smart.

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csanjuro: I'm not mafia
Interesting.
Who do you think is ?

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Atlo: I actually lean towards mafia.
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dedoporno: Are you going to vote him for it?
No. I may be suspicious of friendly behaviour, but I still have enough sense to realize that that does not warrant lynching.
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Atlo: No. I may be suspicious of friendly behaviour, but I still have enough sense to realize that that does not warrant lynching.
First of all - voting doesn't automatically result in lynching. You are simply stating an opinion and it's up to the others to decide whether it works for them as well or up to you to persuade them if you feel strongly about it. Most importantly - it puts your name on the board for everyone to see.

Point B - We are slowly but surely approaching deadline so a lynch has to happen eventually. Ideally a viable wagon forms sooner rather than later as we don't have that much time anymore (2 days and change if I'm not mistaken).

So, once again, are you going to vote for Lift whom you've described as your scummiest choice?
dedo feels a little fluffy and LAMISTy.

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Lifthrasil: @Scene you basically got it in your 'the crux of the matter' paragraph. Scum can profit from such jokes. Using the 'scum would never claim scum' impression. So deflecting suspicion with a joke. Town, however, can not profit from such jokes. So, as I said, either frost is scum or is town who plays against town. Lacking any better lead at the moment, the possibility of scum using such a joke makes frost my prime suspect at the moment.

It is not a solid proof of being scum. But it makes frost scummier than others for the moment.
Joke claiming scum is something scum would be somewhat more likely to do. However I do not like the logic to this post.

But it's just a disagreement over logic so-

Vote dedoporno

And csan is town.
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FrostburnPhoenix: dedo feels a little fluffy and LAMISTy.
I'll look past the fluffy part but I'm gonna need you to explain the LAMISTy part, Jack.
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FrostburnPhoenix: dedo feels a little fluffy and LAMISTy.
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dedoporno: I'll look past the fluffy part but I'm gonna need you to explain the LAMISTy part, Jack.
They're the same thing. Making posts that look helpful but don't actually help that much. I Might be reading it wrong and this is just your usual playstyle. I Wasn't really attuned to this until recently.

None of my reads right now are strong so I'm just going to OMGUS unless something big happens as that's my best bet.

Unvote

Vote Lifthrasil
Well another avenue for lynching is innactivity.

Not posted any analysis unless I've missed it: ( Joe said he was going to be away for a couple of days, but it's been longer, I wonder if he doesn't have internet access)

06 JoeSapphire - Hazama Kirara
08 Ambiti0nZ - Aki Takahashi

Very low levels of analysis:

01 my name is grompy catte - Makise Kurisu
09 dedoporno - Kitami Reika
11 csanjuro - Haru Akemi
12 bucktooth - Asuka Langley Soryu

So 5 players that aren't actively contributing and it shouldn't be rewarded. If I've missjudged anyone please let me know your objections

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FrostburnPhoenix: dedo feels a little fluffy and LAMISTy.

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Lifthrasil: @Scene you basically got it in your 'the crux of the matter' paragraph. Scum can profit from such jokes. Using the 'scum would never claim scum' impression. So deflecting suspicion with a joke. Town, however, can not profit from such jokes. So, as I said, either frost is scum or is town who plays against town. Lacking any better lead at the moment, the possibility of scum using such a joke makes frost my prime suspect at the moment.

It is not a solid proof of being scum. But it makes frost scummier than others for the moment.
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FrostburnPhoenix: Joke claiming scum is something scum would be somewhat more likely to do. However I do not like the logic to this post.

But it's just a disagreement over logic so-

Vote dedoporno

And csan is town.
Actually I think this one is worth exploring. Dedo has made comments but not taken any firm positions. To me it doesn't look like he's trying to solve the game.

What do players who've played with Dedo think about this??? @Lift @joe @telika and anyone else? I've played a little with him but don't remember much
Internet is mostly up, but I'm having a lot of issues with pages not loading correctly.

ISP has narrowed the appointment time from 12noon to 4pm to 1pm to 4pm. (Pacific)

Anyway, I'm going to try to catch-up on the thread.
Less than 2 days left in D1 already? This must be what a Mafia Universe game feels like.

Considering the options we have right now outside of picking one of the ghost players at random, I feel most comfortable with:

Vote Frostburnphoenix

The only other real lead I have seen worth looking into is Telikas being suspicious of Lift's pro-town tutorials, but as I said before I find it hard to really fault bad faith investigation this early if they're not going to put a vote behind it.

I could do an OMGUS as well and vote Joe, but I would like to see them return from void they fell into first before stooping to that strategy.

The sudden LAMIST review of dedo followed by the vote...then unvote a few hours later smells of trying to start wagons to see what would stick.
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FrostburnPhoenix: dedo feels a little fluffy and LAMISTy.

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Lifthrasil: @Scene you basically got it in your 'the crux of the matter' paragraph. Scum can profit from such jokes. Using the 'scum would never claim scum' impression. So deflecting suspicion with a joke. Town, however, can not profit from such jokes. So, as I said, either frost is scum or is town who plays against town. Lacking any better lead at the moment, the possibility of scum using such a joke makes frost my prime suspect at the moment.

It is not a solid proof of being scum. But it makes frost scummier than others for the moment.
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FrostburnPhoenix: Joke claiming scum is something scum would be somewhat more likely to do. However I do not like the logic to this post.
Please explain. You agree that joke claiming scum is something scum is more likely to do and yet you don't like the logic that someone joke claiming scum looks scummy? Why?

Also, you're quite jumpy with your vote and your do not seem to care much about who you vote for or to explain why you vote that way. Your 'reason' for voting dedo, calling him fluffy, is very fluffy itself and your vote on me is OMGUS, as you admit yourself. This looks as if you don't care much on whom your vote falls.

in conclusion: my vote seems to be in the right place.

@scene: dedo seems his usual self, mostly. It's D1, we don't have much to analyze and dedo often seems to make up his mind late on D1, unless something major happens.
The only deviation was, that he needed an explanation of my thoughts. Usually he is able to read them. ;-) (in other words, we often think alike)
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dedoporno: Have you played with Telika back in the day?
I may have done, but I don't remember anything that would be helpful in terms of meta. There was a period of several years when I wasn't playing so there are a bunch of people considered "oldies" who probably came and went while I was absent. I don't think I ever played with AmbitionZ until recently for example.