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EBWOP: got ninjae'd by trent's claim.
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ZFR: EBWOP: got ninjae'd by trent's claim.
And your thoughts? Also why not put them in this post while you were at it? :)
oh boobs
Joe, was that you being silly or what? Also thanks for the bump.

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trentonlf: Good luck Town
Adding to Post 480 of mine(mostly musing): Hmm, so your role(if true and you are town) ALSO can help both town and scum. Interesting.

Not gonna get into it much more(I know how you dislike such things), except to say: I wonder(just wonder....am not asking for any info from anyone) how many others have roles that can help both town and scum?

(So far I count 2 that I am aware of, myself[of course take my claim of that and being town fwiw] and Trent[if his claim is accurate])
Here and catching up quickly as I won't be around a lot tonight and tomorrow morning.
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dedoporno: Here and catching up quickly as I won't be around a lot tonight and tomorrow morning.
Trent is at L-3, and has claimed in Post 478.....now we either believe him and pick anew or not and lynch him anyways.

Those are the major points as of now, anyways(more or less....might've missed one or two things).
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Hunter65536: He voted on GH in a way that seemed opportunistic, discussion of ZFR and trent with GH about forming wagons quick didn't sit right with me for some reason and one or two of his posts were revisiting things already laid out. (for e.g. like #298 why ZFR would apologise when voting blotunga in #214 which ZFR had already I felt explained to me before)

That being said bucky was my first pick because it seemed like he started enthusiastic like and then became rarer when he got minor heat but his explanation makes me give him some leeway and benefit of the doubt.
Thanks. I forgot about the GH vote and there I agree I found it odd back then. The "for some reason" part is quite meh?

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Engerek01: He seems to be trying to deflect the attention to a different source, and he also seems ready to "buss" trent, which I believe is a common mafia tactic from what I have read.
Deflecting from who and what makes you feel I am trying to bus trent?


Meh, there was messsed quote here and it didn't post.
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GymHenson: (@OP: Nothing in this post is a vote)


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trentonlf: Everyone is so wrong. We need as much time as we can get to actually find scum because I'm not one of them so I'm going to claim. I am Mr. Handy and my name if Fisto. I can give someone 2 night actions instead of 1 by assisting them. I googled Fisto as I have no clue about Fallout characters and Lift you are funny.

You all suck for making me reveal my role as it's a cool one that I was looking forward to using. Seems I'm dead either way as I don't see scum letting me live.
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GymHenson: Musing: Tis odd you'd be so quick and jump on the call to claim so easily....for one who doesn't like such things.

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That said, i'd like everyone's opinion on this while we have time: Should we stay the course, or no? What do y'all think?

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trentonlf: Good luck Town
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GymHenson: Thanks for the well wishes, but (if you're town) don't count yourself out just yet....we still have some time to change course if need be and people decide it is the best course of action.

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trentonlf: P.S. YOU ALL SUCK
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GymHenson: This is somewhat true sometimes....sometimes we suck....sorry for that.
(especially if yer town)
Would you rather I wait till the last minute to claim so we have almost no time to actually find scum and mislynch like typical??

Respectfully you can kiss my ***, I blame you for putting me in this position.
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trentonlf: Would you rather I wait till the last minute to claim so we have almost no time to actually find scum and mislynch like typical??

Respectfully you can kiss my ***, I blame you for putting me in this position.
If it wasn't clear earlier, Iwas actually being honestly curious.....as claiming seems to be something you dislike doing....so you claiming so readily made me wonder why you'd be so eager to do it(and not say balk at the idea a bit, if only initially)

So sorry if I caused you to go against your usual way of play and (if town) to be forced to spill the beans.

At least now, though, we can choose what to do with some time to spare.
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Vitek: Can people sum up why the suspect trent?
Mostly for one flimsy and silly reason which is how Trent reacted "strongly" at Micro voting himself while not even playing in the actual game. I don't think Town Trent would show such neglect and to be honest I was looking for whatever to nail him since because he has been fooling me annoyingly consistently for a while now and I had this "Gotcha!!" moment with him like last game with Lift where I was dead on with my read. It's flimsy and silly on more thorough examination as Trent is better than that not only as Town but in general. I would have dropped it but I can't say I like the way he dances around ZFR so I'm still sticking to it since my gut tells me I'm right.


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Vitek: I know of some things I am more prone to do as mafia. I am not sharing them to not give myself away and I try to avoid them but it can't be helped and I slip into them. So even though I am aware of them, they can be used agaisnt me if town figures them out.
In this game?? JK, I assume you meant in general and in future games :)

Seriously though... In this game??


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trentonlf: P.S. YOU ALL SUCK
Oh..


unvote Trent


until we get this figured out.


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GymHenson: That said, i'd like everyone's opinion on this while we have time: Should we stay the course, or no? What do y'all think?
You know what? I'd like your opinion as you're the one who has been pushing for a claim from the get-go. There's the claim. Go.
Just arrived, but have trouble with kids, wife sick etc. I need to read again some of the shit today but from what I saw Trent claimed, I think it's plausible, also I really don't like GH's style with pressing claims, it's anti-town. Now we might loose trent even if we don't lynch him because he probably will be NKed. That being said:

vote GymHenson

I feel like trent's reaction is quite natural at being forced to claim, anger and disappointment, I felt that too when people tried to lynch me and I knew I could be a lot more helpful alive.
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blotunga: Just arrived, but have trouble with kids, wife sick etc.
Sorry to hear that. I hope they get well soon!
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dedoporno: You know what? I'd like your opinion as you're the one who has been pushing for a claim from the get-go. There's the claim. Go.
I find it odd that Trent, who seems to be against such claims in general, would claim at L-3.....as before he seemed to not be a big fan(to put it lightly) of my "get someone to claim range early enough" plan(and also iirc he isn't a big fan of such claiming in general)....and now he jumps on board with a claim so quickly?

I don't buy it....so my vote stays where it is.

(everyone else is free to change if they so choose, though, or weigh in on the claim..etc)

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(Bump needed)
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blotunga: Just arrived, but have trouble with kids, wife sick etc.
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dedoporno: Sorry to hear that. I hope they get well soon!
When I get them to bed or tomorrow morning latest I plan to re-read it all that happened today, so don't do anything stupid, like lynching me before I get to say some more.
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GymHenson: I find it odd that Trent, who seems to be against such claims in general, would claim at L-3.....as before he seemed to not be a big fan(to put it lightly) of my "get someone to claim range early enough" plan(and also iirc he isn't a big fan of such claiming in general)....and now he jumps on board with a claim so quickly?
Seriously? You have been pushing for a claim for the past few days, you keep nagging about how we dicked around whole game last and had rushed lynches because people didn't have time to react and consider other options and when you get what you want in the way you want it you don't buy it? Wow.