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LASER97: Vote: LASER97
Doesn't count...as it's not bolded.
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Also to all: One reason I voted earlier(before unvoting), btw, is because I might be sleeping/etc at deadline and want to avoid a no lynch......that is why I will give Pooka a bit longer to make up their mind, to be fair, but not too much longer(as deadline is fast approaching).

(Above bit is NOT a vote)
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Cadaver747: WTF?!? (not role playing)
Laser forgot to bold his vote.

I've been in touch with Joe so hopefully he'll do a vote count and answer questions soon. Please bump me when you get this.
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Cadaver747: WTF?!? (not role playing)
This is a bastard game with multiple hidden jesters. Isn't it obvious by now?
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SirPrimalform: Please bump me when you get this.
Bump
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LASER97: This is a bastard game with multiple hidden jesters. Isn't it obvious by now?
Can't tell if you're making a mean joke about Lift's game (plausible) or Joe's actually running a bastard game (also plausible).

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Cadaver747: Bump
Thanks, I didn't want to be locked out of replying in case Laser had snuck a vote in before my post.
@Cadaver, would you consider the language questions I posed for you above?

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Carradice: If Pookie shoots the Bulletproof, it leads to essentially a no-lunch.
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Lifthrasil: But it would net us a proven Scum. If someone is proven Bulletproof, that someone must be Scum!
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@Carradice: also, saving the Shot of the Dayvig for another Day isn't possible if Pookina really is the Dayvig. If she saves her shot, she will be killed Tonight. We can't prevent the kill, because Scum have a Strongarm. So you urging the claimed Dayvig to hold back looks quite bad. Especially coupled with your implication that uncovering the bulletproof scum would be bad for us. I don't like your reasoning at all!

To be clear: I'm not saying 'use the shot immediately'. But Pookina has to use it Today or we will most likely lose it.
Seriously? So LIft would advocate for shooting someone straightaway, risking A LOST DAY. If the target is taken to lunch instead of shot, it would be equally dealt with but ONE DAY BEFORE.

The Lift is a veteran player, plus a rational one. Has he really thought this through? The other option is: He knows (mafioso or townie) that the real way to make a difference is shooting someone who is NOT getting a lunch any soon. Scenes has proposed the Lift as a target. Is this really what worries Large?

Again, the best use (IMHO) for the Day Shot if Pookie is its real custodian, is either shooting someone who, to her eyes, is very suspicious and is not getting a lunch any soon. Failing that person to exist, the best would be waiting until the voting advances. If she does not like the result at L-1, or if there is risk of no-lunch, then by all means use the shot.

Anything else is foolish. Lift knows that. Nevertheless, he is bent on making Pookie shoot a sure lunch. Why????

Waiting for Lift to think it carefully. Although maybe he did. If a change of mind fails to happen, the only logical interpretation would be that he is feeling the heat and he is going on an agressive mode to save his skin. This, regardless of him being scum or townie. So far I never thought him scummy in this game (although his lurkiness on Day 1 was something to remember). Now I am not su sure. I would hate that he was scum. With Zeffer gone, I hoped for Large to remain a pillar of rationality. I expected way more from the Lift in this game. At least Shirley is being rational and thinking about this properly, which is something

Meaning, I am open to new ideas, as long as they are consistent. So far, shooting Walkins instead of getting a lunch for him is nothing but making the damage to Town more complete.
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LASER97: This is a bastard game with multiple hidden jesters. Isn't it obvious by now?
Are you seriously thinking that? And why....because of that prior game?

Also musing: is that even possible in an open setup?
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LASER97: This is a bastard game with multiple hidden jesters. Isn't it obvious by now?
We have an open setup, what jesters?.Also why you make an incorrect vote on your self (no bold + ":" in between)?
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GameRager: Are you seriously thinking that? And why....because of that prior game?
No, I'm only joking. You guys keep coming up with absurd theories, so I thought I might try it as well.
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GameRager: Unvote Laser97
That's so much better.

@SPF I see your angle now, that if we're going to shoot Laser, we might as well lynch him to seal us his death. But now I have to consider how likely is it that Laser would draw so much attention to himself in hopes that the Vig would waste his shot on him. On day 1. Was he sure some other party was getting enough heat to draw me out, that he needed to step in? His fake kill of Scene and his impatience at getting me to shoot him, and now his self vote, are all big warning signs, but why did he even put himself in this situation?

My grand reveal of my hot vigilante revolver made him dig his grave even further down, he might actually end up in the Lidenbrock Sea, and I'm content with that. So let's use that opportunity to find us another potential scum before offing Laser.

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GameRager: Also to all: One reason I voted earlier(before unvoting), btw, is because I might be sleeping/etc at deadline and want to avoid a no lynch......that is why I will give Pooka a bit longer to make up their mind, to be fair, but not too much longer(as deadline is fast approaching).
The new Day is barely a day old and you're already talking about the deadline? Were you trying to bus Laser?
Fun fact: I made a quick check of the thread. New day did start yesterday, so I'm not going insane at least (well, any more insane than I am right now), and Joe hasn't posted anything after the announcement of the New Day. He didn't even post any deadlines. So again, my dear Games O'Rager. What the heck is up with that Laser vote?
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Pookina: My grand reveal of my hot vigilante revolver made him dig his grave even further down, he might actually end up in the Lidenbrock Sea, and I'm content with that. So let's use that opportunity to find us another potential scum before offing Laser.
Absolutely. We certainly have plenty of time for discussion at the very least.

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Pookina: The new Day is barely a day old and you're already talking about the deadline? Were you trying to bus Laser?
Fun fact: I made a quick check of the thread. New day did start yesterday, so I'm not going insane at least (well, any more insane than I am right now), and Joe hasn't posted anything after the announcement of the New Day. He didn't even post any deadlines. So again, my dear Games O'Rager. What the heck is up with that Laser vote?
Wow you're right. I could have sworn it started on Monday. Well we shouldn't be too afraid of deadlines yet then. Interesting observation about GR's vote. You think he was rushing onto LASER's wagon to score town points?
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LASER97: No, I'm only joking. You guys keep coming up with absurd theories, so I thought I might try it as well.
Eh, we're only playing as best we can/know how.....not everyone is a mafia game whiz as you seem to be. :)
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Pookina: The new Day is barely a day old and you're already talking about the deadline? Were you trying to bus Laser?
Fun fact: I made a quick check of the thread. New day did start yesterday, so I'm not going insane at least (well, any more insane than I am right now), and Joe hasn't posted anything after the announcement of the New Day. He didn't even post any deadlines. So again, my dear Games O'Rager. What the heck is up with that Laser vote?
Oh crap...you're right....I thought we only had a day or so left for some reason.

Might be my memory, or that thing on my mind(besides the game), or(more likely) a bit of both....sorry for that.

As for the vote: I wanted to make sure someone on my suspect list got lynched and we didn't end up in a no lynch...though now that I see we have extra time to spare I am more content waiting a bit longer to place any needed vote.
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Carradice: @Cadaver, would you consider the language questions I posed for you above?
This one?

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Carradice: So why exactly shooting someone is better than taking said person to lunch? Can you explain it???

If said person is not going to be taking to lunch, and then receives a shot from the Vigilante, that is exactly the option 1) I mentioned above.

So???? Cadaver, I am not getting your reasoning.
Because Mafia most surely will not tolerate the living shooter, they might, but I highly doubt it. In other words: it's now or never and I said it a few times already.

1) If Vig shot a bulletproof hence no lynch/lunch > we'll lynch the target the next Day and root 2 remaining Mafia, I've mentioned it already either.

Do you see now? Is it a mind game or something? If you want me to believe that Mafia will spare a day shooter, by all means give your reasoning.

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Carradice: Now that I have your attention, I would like to pose two questions about language:

1) What is the original language for the rules of the Court of the Sultan game.
Why do you mean by *language*??? We and ZFR were Rebels, Lith was the Vizier, who could employ 1 Guard Commander and 1 Judge. We killed 2 Guards in a row but was uncertain on Day 3, we knew who was the Judge since Day 1 but missed with our investigation on latest Guard and we lost because GR acted like crazy (SPF was nominated 3 times in a row but he thought that SPF was Protester because he can).

And we were restricted on claiming our roles even slightly but I haven't seen this in rules, it was specifically expressed by OP in private chat. Vizier wasn't. So what language?

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Carradice: 2) This one is addressed at Cadaver: On Day One, you received praised from Walkins. Then you replied with something like “I have my pockets sewn for the ocassion”. I would like to ask you if that is an idiom, and from what language and region. Especially, what did you mean by that. Do those words mean that you are taking measures against thieves, thus expressing that you find the person who had just spoken to you untrustworthy?
I meant *that my pockets are sealed* (sew up / "sewn" might an incorrect word), in other words I told him - don't you pocket me for my good language. I have my most distrust towards Laser and he made me a compliment out of the blue, so I my pockets were *sewn* [up?] for that occasion.
On the other hand, and this goes for @Cadaver also, we play for fun. Pookie tried a showy move removing two guys at once and moving on. Instead she fell and got stuck in the mud, and sinking. She feels how the Action phase approaches, and with that possibly the end of her career as a Day Vig. It is time to do something. It is time to make a difference. She will shoot someone.

Those feelings are easy to understand. So, if she wants to get at least some satisfaction in her last game-day, even if she risks the faint chance of shooting the Bulletproof, well, who wants to live forever? She might be frustrated enough as things are now. Making her throw that revolver away and sink in the mud without a sound might be a tad too heartless. So, @Pookie, do what you must. If you prefer to go with a bang instead of a whimper, it is your call, and your call only, and everyone should understand that. I very much would prefer that you leave the game with a smile than with a burnt feeling. So, whatever you do, you have my support.
UNVOTE LASER

I think he's confirmed Mafia. HOWEVER - we need a discussion about Pooka's vig shot