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General discussionGOG Mafia #66 - Lunch at Gog's Restaurant(1268 posts)(1268 posts)
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Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: Either Gamerager has suddenly become the voice of reason, or he investigated me last night.
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Lifthrasil: Cadaver and SPF already reacted to this post, but I have to ask: what the hell did you want to achieve with this? Let's see:

Case 1: you're Town and you genuienely have the theory that GR is the cop. ... Why would you serve him on a silver platter to scum by pointing that out? NO Town player with at least some experience would be that stupid.

Case 2: you're scum and you are trying to (derp-)clear yourself

Case 3: you're scum and you're role-fishing, by looking for a reaction from GR or someone else.

Case 4: it was meant to be a joke at GR's expense.

Case 1 is very unlikely. If you were Town, you wouldn't sacrifice our Cop in that way. Case 4 is possible, but would it would be very unfriendly to paint a target at a fellow players back for no reason. So Cases 2 and 3 are more likely.

vote Laser97
Case 5 - he's Town and he's genuinely trying to explain away Rager's perception of him

Case 3 is possible and he asked for my role on Day 1, which is more indicitive of this.

Who else do you suspect most at this stage? Are we happy with letting lurky players live?
Posted May 19, 2020
I'm claiming regular townie.
Posted May 19, 2020
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Cadaver747: Modkill me! I f@cked it up!
Did you... edit the post before my bump to thank me for my bump? o___0
Posted May 19, 2020
*added number for easier communication*
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supplementscene: 1) I felt conspired against yesterday so I thought my wagon was Mafia heavy.
2) In actual fact 2 of the wagon are confirmed town and the other wagon was on a town player.
3) Mafia don't have a reason to conspire against me when there is another town wagon.
4) I think my wagon maybe all town.
5) But could you be setting me up for a Day 2 lynch as Mafia and staying off the key town wagon? Possibly.
6) However you do seem at least to be looking to solve the game.

No I can't prove to you I'm Town, that's the essense of the game.

You state ZFR is one of the strongest players. Who has played with him enough to know this? Everyone or only some of us? I'm personally unsure, but I've played with him a fair few times.
1) And you felt right. I, among others (if there are any others left except for the lynched Micro and killed ZFR), was *conspiring* against you since D1. So I thought that you're Mafia.
2) There were 3 main wagons: Micro (from the beginning), Laser (initial) and Scene, you (after Laser). Only Micro was confirmed to be Town. Not Laser, not you.. And the other wagons, including Laser and you are on unidentified players, not Town!
3) So I'm Town in your eyes, right? Maybe a little far fetched. Mafia have EVERY REASON to conspire, vote and change wagon like gloves if it will help them to confuse Town enough, to distract them from possible Mafia lynch target (e.g. Laser, Scene) and lynch the innocent (in our case, Micro).
4). So you think your wagon might be all Town, let's see.
>>> before the final result it was:
3 - Scenes Supplamicz (supplementscene) - ZFR, Microfish_1, Cadaver747,
>>> and in final the results were:
2 - Scenes Supplamicz (supplementscene) - Microfish_1, Cadaver747,
In other words you don't think that ZFR (dead Town), Micro (dead Town) and Cadaver, me (???) are Mafia. You don't suspect the deceased Town could be Mafia, surprisingly so.
You know, you could have said it differently, like *I don't think Cadaver is Mafia* or *I read Cadaver as Town*, but the way you said it is very, and I mean VERY, odd.
5) Thank you! At last, for that small portion of actual reasonable thinking I can give one tiny Town point but you get yourself a bit of Mafia points as well, so can't say it changes anything for me, but it's better than nothing.
6) Yes, I do! Do you?
Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: I'm claiming regular townie.
Afaik you are a good bit away from lynch....why claim so quickly? Seems odd, is all.
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SirPrimalform: Did you... edit the post before my bump to thank me for my bump? o___0
He might have tried copying bits to another window and mixed up which window to copy to.
Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: I'm claiming regular townie.
Why would you claim so early. Also FYI 'townie' is not mentioned anywhere in Joe's OP or PMs. That doesn't mean you aren't town as it could be a mental link to another game.
Posted May 19, 2020
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SirPrimalform: Did you... edit the post before my bump to thank me for my bump? o___0
You know the answer (up above), it was because I have to click EDIT in order to preserve the precious quotations from the other user, Scene. But that dirty tactics can be used by filthy Mafia and even by clumsy Towns to hide they unprompted and dangerous thoughts, if you get my meaning. So one should ever edit their posts in any circumstances in exception for OP posts of course and the deceased *farewells*.

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GameRager: Afaik you are a good bit away from lynch....why claim so quickly? Seems odd, is all.
My thoughts exactly. Also why claim Town regular (vanilla, no powers)??? It's even worse!

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GameRager: He might have tried copying bits to another window and mixed up which window to copy to.
He might have clarified already in post #490 (wrong/accident click):
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_66_lunch_at_gogs_restaurant/post490
Posted May 19, 2020
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GameRager: Afaik you are a good bit away from lynch....why claim so quickly? Seems odd, is all.
It's obvious where this is headed, so I want to put it out there early. The setup also gives us leeway.

We have a 50% chance at lynching scum today, which are great odds if people would quit acting silly.
Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: I'm claiming regular townie.
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supplementscene: Why would you claim so early. Also FYI 'townie' is not mentioned anywhere in Joe's OP or PMs. That doesn't mean you aren't town as it could be a mental link to another game.
Are you serious now? He claimed regular townie and there is only Town Regular (all capitals), really?
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JoeSapphire: TOWN REGULAR role reads:

Hello TheGOGfather, you are Gog of Gog's Restaurant, Town Regular.

Powers: You have no powers.

Win condition: You when when all the mafia are eliminated.
Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: It's obvious where this is headed, so I want to put it out there early. The setup also gives us leeway.

We have a 50% chance at lynching scum today, which are great odds if people would quit acting silly.
How do you figure those odds?
Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: We have a 50% chance at lynching scum today, which are great odds if people would quit acting silly.
Do you mean that it's 50/50% between you and Scene or was it something else?
Posted May 19, 2020
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GameRager: Afaik you are a good bit away from lynch....why claim so quickly? Seems odd, is all.
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LASER97: It's obvious where this is headed, so I want to put it out there early. The setup also gives us leeway.

We have a 50% chance at lynching scum today, which are great odds if people would quit acting silly.
And if you are Town, by claiming early instead of trying not to get lynched without claiming, you made shooting for PRs easier for scum.

If you are scum, however, you probably just selected the minumum effort, low risk claim.
Posted May 19, 2020
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SirPrimalform: How do you figure those odds?
It's too risky for mafia to claim a PR this early on, and I'm quite confident either me or scene were investigated (both vanilla). That's 4/10 confirmable players, which leaves a 50% chance of hitting scum among the remaining six.

Worse case scenario the cop investigated a town PR, but those are still favorable odds on day two.
Posted May 19, 2020
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LASER97: It's too risky for mafia to claim a PR this early on, and I'm quite confident either me or scene were investigated (both vanilla). That's 4/10 confirmable players, which leaves a 50% chance of hitting scum among the remaining six.

Worse case scenario the cop investigated a town PR, but those are still favorable odds on day two.
We have two flip confirmed players plus everyone knowing their own alignment. To the cop maybe there are four confirmed players, but only to the cop.
Posted May 19, 2020
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Cadaver747: My thoughts exactly. Also why claim Town regular (vanilla, no powers)??? It's even worse!
Maybe he is vanilla, or isn't but is still town.

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Cadaver747: He might have clarified already in post #490 (wrong/accident click):
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_66_lunch_at_gogs_restaurant/post490
Yeah, you did...I knew you explained it somewhere and was trying to recount it as best I could without needing to look back....sorry for that.
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LASER97: It's obvious where this is headed, so I want to put it out there early. The setup also gives us leeway.
You are still 3 votes away from lynch/lunch...so unless you were planning to go afk/to bed soon you could've likely waited a bit longer to claim.

But fair enough.

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LASER97: We have a 50% chance at lynching scum today, which are great odds if people would quit acting silly.
Acting silly? Wha?!? Why I never!

*Tips sombrero on head, then puts on duck shoes and heads to the dance floor to do the monster mash*
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SirPrimalform: How do you figure those odds?
He went to the supplescene school of calculation, maybe? ;)
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