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P1na: I'm sorry to say I'm not very knowledgeable about the Salem witch trials. I am, however, fairly knowledgeable when it comes to my local sorginak and the somewhat related Spanish inquisition. I bet nobody expected that.
Googled that...I learned something. BTW, didn't you win already? ;-)

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HypersomniacLive: Vote P1na
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bler144: When HSL gets here he's definitely going to ask if you care to explain your vote.
<chuckle>

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bler144: >randwolf RVS: agent
most likely to be lyncher: HSL

vote agent
Consistency noted.

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muddysneakers: vote cristigale
Welcome to the game!


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P1na: Furthermore, he made post number 3, 5, and 17.
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SirPrimalform: Pretty damning. I'd say that makes him a prime suspect.
Clever...

Vote SirPrimalform
In terms of numbers and this is important. There will be at least 4 players voting against towns interests and perhaps 5 depending on the number of witches (we know there are at least 2 depending on the number of Goons).

I picked up this previously and should be able to get another copy if anyone wants to get in the mood:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/788740/A_Salem_Witch_Trial__Murder_Mystery/
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P1na: Furthermore, he made post number 3, 5, and 17.
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SirPrimalform: Pretty damning. I'd say that makes him a prime suspect.
Are you Jane Tennison??
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SirPrimalform: Pretty damning. I'd say that makes him a prime suspect.
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flubbucket: Are you Jane Tennison??
So that's why it's called prime suspect! Because all the killers do things in prime numbers.
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P1na: I'm sorry to say I'm not very knowledgeable about the Salem witch trials. I am, however, fairly knowledgeable when it comes to my local sorginak and the somewhat related Spanish inquisition. I bet nobody expected that.
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cristigale: Googled that...I learned something. BTW, didn't you win already? ;-)

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SirPrimalform: Pretty damning. I'd say that makes him a prime suspect.
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cristigale: Clever...

Vote SirPrimalform
I did win the original game. But you know how the gaming industry is nowadays, they keep remaking games with the same title and confusing everybody.

And I'm still kicking myself for missing the prime thing on my post.

BTW, since you learnt something; aren't we glad we're the witches in Salem and not the ones in Zugarramurdi? Because the latter trial ended with 12 women burnt, several already dead as they got lynched in the proceedings. Scaaaary...
Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Are they compeletely random or do they know someone is out to get them?
Re-posting in bold for @Lift

Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Does the enemy know someone is out to get them? Are they compeletely random, ie any faction including Mafia/Neutral?


The implications:

Any of us potentially could be a targeted enemy without knowing

We need to look for 4-5 non-town posters hopping on misslynch wagons

If it's a random faction, even a Mafia lynch could look suspect, depending on context.
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supplementscene: Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Does the enemy know someone is out to get them?
No. Why would they?

As for alignment: no further comment. Read post 11.
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supplementscene: Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Does the enemy know someone is out to get them?
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Lifthrasil: No. Why would they?

As for alignment: no further comment. Read post 11.
I'm not sure Question 11 is relevant to my questions as I'm not revealing my role, I'm questioning the roles given.

I do now suspect that the targeted enemy has to be town, as it would unbalance Mafia/Neutral's win conditions. Certainly neutral surviver would be humstrung by being the enemy and to some degree Mafia too unless there are 3 Mafia players, which I suspect there won't be given the Neutral faction. The open play and forced vote re-balances things somewhat for Town.
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supplementscene: Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Does the enemy know someone is out to get them? Are they compeletely random, ie any faction including Mafia/Neutral?
You mean Lyncher's, right? You mean does the Lynchee know they're Lyncher's target?

Vengeful can pick anyone, and that anyone will kind of know about it pretty soon after receiving an invitation to the observer thread.
It's a dark day. Outside the sun hides behind thick clouds and inside the mood isn't much lighter. So far the feeling of being in it all together is still prevalent. Only tentative attempts are made at accusing any of the other women of witchcraft. P1na and SirP resort to numerology to figure out a suspect. Others just point their finger randomly at someone. But so far no one can drum up any conviction behind their accusations. No one wants to be in here. No one wants to be judge and jury for the others - especially since the executioners are waiting outside. Thirsty for the blood of you all. Outside the watchers watch under the overcast sky. Rifles primed and pointed at all possible exits of the town hall. No escape.

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This is your daily official vote count:

agent 1 - bler [29]
ZFR 1 - P1na [19]
JoeSapphire 1 - SirP [6]
muddy 1 - ZFR [5]
P1na 1 - HSL [24]
SirP 1 - cristi [31]
cristi 1 - muddy [30]

not voting: Scene, agent, Ixam, JoeS, flubb

If I missed anyone or anything, let me know.
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supplementscene: Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Does the enemy know someone is out to get them? Are they compeletely random, ie any faction including Mafia/Neutral?
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ZFR: You mean Lyncher's, right? You mean does the Lynchee know they're Lyncher's target?

Vengeful can pick anyone, and that anyone will kind of know about it pretty soon after receiving an invitation to the observer thread.
Actually I assumed that Scene meant the hypothetical neutral Lyncher and responded in kind. The Vengeful isn't neutral, but town, and doesn't have a fixed target. But I expect her to make a show of taking someone with them once they are hammered! (i.e. in this case the 'bah' post may be extended to make the second lynch known publicly, if the Vengeful wants that. They can, however, also just send the accused to me and I take care of the theatralics. ;-) )
Post edited November 06, 2018 by Lifthrasil
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supplementscene: Does the vengeful neutral's enemy know they are? Does the enemy know someone is out to get them? Are they compeletely random, ie any faction including Mafia/Neutral?
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ZFR: You mean Lyncher's, right? You mean does the Lynchee know they're Lyncher's target?

Vengeful can pick anyone, and that anyone will kind of know about it pretty soon after receiving an invitation to the observer thread.
Yes my mistake and sorry for confusing everyone, I meant 'Neutral Lyncher/Survivor' and my bet is their enemy can only be town but I could be wrong.

I actually understant the Vengeful role and it's actually a useful one for town.

Oh and what if the Vengeful Lyncher in fact was the enemy without knowing, that could be a twist, although I think that's probably not likely.
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Lifthrasil: Actually I assumed that Scene meant the hypothetical neutral Lyncher and responded in kind. The Vengeful isn't neutral, but town, and doesn't have a fixed target. But I expect her to make a show of taking someone with them once they are hammered! (i.e. in this case the 'bah' post may be extended to make the second lynch known publicly, if the Vengeful wants that. They can, however, also just send the accused to me and I take care of the theatralics. ;-) )
So the vengful can publicly post the target after hammer or at twilight? I kind of assumed they PM you and you handle it at night. The former allows time for town to discuss implications before you tuck us in for the night.
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ZFR: So the vengful can publicly post the target after hammer or at twilight? I kind of assumed they PM you and you handle it at night. The former allows time for town to discuss implications before you tuck us in for the night.
There won't be much twilight, since the authorities drag out the Lynchee quite swiftly. But I will allow the Vengeful to scream the name of the one they take with them as they are dragged out. Just for dramatic reasons. :-)

I was more thinking along the lines of an extended, early 'bah' post then of an actual lengthy twilight discussion.
However, I will not forbid the Vengeful from telling who she is going to take with her between the hammer and my arrival to end the Day. I don't like posting restrictions, so you can post (and claim) whenever and whatever you want. As long as it doesn't break the rules in the rules post. Specifically, don't quote my PMs verbatim. Everything else is fine.
Post edited November 06, 2018 by Lifthrasil
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Lifthrasil: Specifically, don't quote my PMs verbatim. Everything else is fine.
Why are you writing specifically about this rule in a game where all the PMs are on page 1. In such a case quoting PMs verbatim isn't game-breaking.