gogtrial34987: Swift catch up. I'll intend to do a regular detailed response later today, if on a thorough reread I find that I have things to question and/or respond to still.
I can't imagine Joe being scene's buddy either. Not so much for the EoD hammer call (though that strengthens it), as for the way he stayed on the wagon all the way to the end. It would've been trivial for him to state "my vote was RVS, and I'm not yet convinced enough about scene to stay on". Instead he did an 'explicit' (well, for Joe-standards) "I'm good where I am" post once scene's wagon took off. ('course, he could be SK-scum, but that still basically goes for everyone.)
I've had Lift and SPF as possible scum buddies bussing, but Lift got taken out of the running, and Vitek does make a compelling argument on SPF's townness. (@trent, @bookwyrm, @flub: do you find Vitek's argument to be solid as well?)

scene+Vitek+SPF? that would make sense perhaps with the early scene/Poppy interactions. (I imagine Vitek's scum game is near flawless?) Wouldn't expect the Vitek-SPF interactions from scum, but that might of course be why they'd play like that. Need to ponder this - it feels too shiny.

I find the scene+HSL+Joe concept intriguing as well. I think I recall both Joe pushing on HSL, as HSL pushing on Joe, but no real interactions. (Reread fodder.)

Are there roles / possible twists that would fit with Ixam just ignoring everything being asked of him? mchack and Joe have now put him in their "could lynch" category as well, but everyone else keeps ignoring him as much as he keeps ignoring all of us.

trent: yes, that's indeed what I was wanting. So you see SPF's reaction there as town?

Bookwyrm627: Huh. Post 474 is missing.

No help for it now, I guess. Back to the game.

mchack: *edit "before" post: ok this didn't go through (too big or format errors?)

Ixamyakxim: LOL - friends don't let friends drunk post Mafia ;) Though I'm guilty of violating that rule right now. I actually kind of like this post. You get the slow obvious clap for saying you like Flub (heh) and PrimalForm and while I may argue with some of your other picks for Town / Scum your reasoning isn't awful. In fact, your "hit list" of possible mafia / town reads almost like something that I'd post if I were trying to suss out iterations of possible teams

gogtrial34987: SPF's townness. (@trent, @bookwyrm, @flub: do you find Vitek's argument to be solid as well?)

mchack: that is weird indeed.
I can't find any quote of it either (and scene used to quote extensively which would help greatly here. but nothing.)
nor anything in google-cache or wayback-machine. guess it's lost (unless someone took notes and could shed light what kind of post there was? (if ever there was one and it's not just some forum software bug from doublepost merging or something...)

Bookwyrm627: Huh. Post 474 is missing.

No help for it now, I guess. Back to the game.

SirPrimalform: Didn't we get a bot randomly post in the thread a few pages back? I reported it as spam, I'm guessing if others did too then the forum might have eaten it.

SirPrimalform: I reported it as spam, I'm guessing if others did too then the forum might have eaten it.

SirPrimalform: Didn't we get a bot randomly post in the thread a few pages back? I reported it as spam, I'm guessing if others did too then the forum might have eaten it.

gogtrial34987: ...........

@flub: do you find Vitek's argument to be solid as well?)

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Vitek: Thanks. I am most interested if it is usual that there seem to be fairly little amount of conclusions drawn from those question as here it seems there is quite a lot of it but they are rarely followed by any action (not necessary vote but at least calling someone scummy).

mchack: That was simply a reference to the conversation you had with HSL.

mchack: I'll gladly take scumpoints from you for pointing it out, but it is obvious to anyone anyway. You appear to be even less scummy than flub and he is confirmed by the mod. That's no small feat. Have you even been scumread once this game?

trentonlf: 1. Vitek makes a good point
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2. SPF's reactions seemed natural and not forced

Bookwyrm627: I've already stated my opinion that I don't think SPF is mafia.

flubbucket: Yes.

gogtrial34987: I find it difficult to say this with any degree of certainty, but yes, I'd say it's usual. That is, his habit, as it has come across to me, is to not share his conclusions until very late. The only thing where I can say his behaviour is unusual, is that when he is cross-examining someone, he tends to easily go back and forth with them three, four or more times. What I've observed in this game (as I recall it, haven't made notes or reread), is that it tends to stop after just one or two iterations - excepting for SPF, where it was way more than usual.

gogtrial34987: Heh. So much for me being observant. (Yep, it checks out, you used the same words.)

gogtrial34987: By scene. :P And Bookwyrm found my D2 start of day post scummy.

gogtrial34987: I didn’t have a chance last night to do a thourough ISO of the people I suspect (and I can’t on my phone that I am on most of the time), but I will tonight and will be placing my vote then too.

Ixamyakxim: Maybe one is scum and they're waiting to see if they can 1) split the wagon into 2 and drag it out (HSL and mchack) or 2) shift it over to me and jump on?

Ixamyakxim: Yeah I quoted weird - it was to mchack - and me ;)

Ixamyakxim: Maybe one is scum and they're waiting to see if they can 1) split the wagon into 2 and drag it out (HSL and mchack) or 2) shift it over to me and jump on?