Better chances of getting the votes for the mislynch. I'm a bit surprised that you can't think of a reason.

And seeing what SirPrimalform posted, perhaps an attempt to introduce some new doubt about the Siblings, since whatever WIFOM there was left around their claim, it evaporated with trentonlf's mafia flip. But that's a superficial read into it.



I could see that work if we were in the 6T scenario, but we're definitely in a scenario with three mafiosi, which means that the mafia-aligned Sibling had two ways (I can think of) to play his: either reveal his extra role to his mafia-buddies from the beginning while playing them (or both sides, to keep his options open?), or keep it secret, but once the claim was out he'd have been confronted by his teammate, hence would have managed to convince him that he's playing his Town-Sibling while either playing his teammate or both, until it becomes clear where victory's to be had. I could see this quite easily if Bookwyrm627 was the mafia-aligned Sibling, but with the Siblings being gogtrial34987+JoeSapphire? Perhaps I'm underestimating them both, but I don't see it. Do you? Does anyone else?


That'd be a pretty nasty surprise, so I sure hope not.

*then remembers game #53*

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So, I've taken some time and did the following ISOs to cross-check things, and make sure I'm not missing/overlooking something regarding the mafia-pair:

1. trentonlf+SirPrimalform
2. trentonlf+Vitek
3. trentonlf+Bookwyrm627

1. trentonlf+SirPrimalform
There's nothing there hinting at the latter being the former's buddy, mostly because of SirPrimalform's play. The only thing that could be seen as incriminating is post #593 where he tells Bookwyrm627 that he hasn't yet pressed either of trentonlf or Vitek, and never follows through with it, but based on the rest of his play - meh.

2. trentonlf+Vitek
I just don't see it. gogtrial34987 was on the spot here - there's a lot of buddying up on trentonlf's side (posts #164, #240, #560, #592 (and shading mchack), #656, #884, #888, #940), yet nothing from Vitek on either side of the spectrum (buddying or distancing).

3. trentonlf+Bookwyrm627
When ISO-ing them together, what I see is not just superficial interactions (as gogtrial34987 said), I see quite some distancing from both of them, and early on:
- trentonlf's posts: #240, #543, $587, #711, #797, #881, #915, and to a lesser degree: #243, #504, #892, #894.
- Bookwyrm627's posts: #216, #589, #860, #891 (after #562), and to a lesser degree: #241, #244, #510, #893, #895.

There's also something in his post #891 that I didn't pay enough attention to it on first parse. He says [emphasis added]:

Which makes no sense as a counter-balance, as the Visitor can't be even verified in this setup with no other informative roles besides the Cop, plus has no actual power.

Wasn't there someone who said something about trying to look busy and useful? Oh wait, it was Bookwyrm627, wasn't it?

One more thing that stood out when going over the wagons, is that Bookwyrm627 landed with his vote on mchack (post #589) right behind his scum-buddy trentonlf on that wagon. Just like he landed with his vote on Vitek (post #216) right behind his other scum-buddy, supplementscene. Pretty nifty way to push the narrative that scum!Bookwyrm627 would never vote right behind his scum-buddies, as most players are careful to avoid such things when they roll mafia.

So yeah, along with everything else I already said, I'm pretty confident Bookwyrm627's mafia.

Now, why flubbucket and not the Siblings. Here's my take on it after thinking about it:

flubbucket demonstrated the whole game long that he's doing his own thing, and perhaps scum!Bookwyrm627 thought he'd be harder to sway into voting someone he didn't want/feel like doing so anyway.
Additionally, perhaps Vitek's comment on preferring him over me, even if only slightly, tipped the scale in favour of leaving the Siblings alive and going for flubbucket, whose death doesn't reveal any new info, while his voting reveals very little.

With 6 players alive, it may take one more vote to lynch, but the current composition of players makes it easier to get the three town votes needed for the mislynch.

Let's look at who all is still in the game:

-- JoeSapphire: had me as least suspect Yesterday after SirPrimalform, but he'd follow gogtrial34987, and has already started doubting his own read.
-- gogtrial34987: said that if trentonlf flips mafia, he's leaning towards me as his buddy.
-- SirPrimalform: I'll be surprised if he even glances at anyone else.
-- Vitek: will mull over it for a good while, as usually, but he voted me yesterday, so it's likely he'll do so again in spite having said he slightly favours Bookwyrm627 over me.
-- HypersomniacLive - I obviously won't vote myself; I'm the only certain vote on Bookwyrm627 while also the easy mislynch.
-- Bookwyrm627 - will go for me, leaving Vitek for the D6 mislynch; remember his order was me/trentonlf, Vitek.

So, Bookwyrm627 is counting on SirPrimalform's vote, and needs another two for the mislynch. I expect him to play for gogtrial34987 (instead of against me), as swaying him quite likely secures two votes. And I can't help but think that the reference and talk about the Smurfia game may well have something to do with both why the Siblings are alive, and how he's going to play it.

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Seriously? You hacked and stitched that post of gogtrial34987 - the part in brackets wasn't even part of his post - and you're trying to pass that as a "Ah, my mistake", and expect it to fly?

As for the rest, what gogtrial34987 said.



You sure had us fooled till Yesterday; good job.



Still wondering?


In post #1007 you said you liked his D4 post (I assume that was meant to be "posts"). What changed?


He didn't flip town, but could you elaborate on why you were thinking this?