I may be a bit dizzy right now, bad sleep and 5 hours of vanilla WoW raiding will do that to you, but weren't you one of the people who "saw" what dedo meant? If you don't agree with the 'loyalist' read, then what exactly did you see?
I'll have to go back and check and see if I'm mistaken.

Humanity is screwed due to tribalism.

On another note, I didn't think your post was too bad, but still pretty much just filler.

I wasn't aware recruits may eventually join in.

At the time he made that vote, I almost immediately turned around and dropped a vote on him. But I was bouncing so many names and situations around that I decided to hold off. Of all the votes on me up to that point, this one seemed the most odd.

Then I sort of got distracted when I was pushed even closer. I'm still not entirely sure what I make of it - RWarehall could just be doing some fishing. But it did catch my attention.

I'm catching up now, had some issues yesterday that I couldn't push aside. I'll try to have something up tonight.

I'm voting for Ix for essentially the same reason I voted for Krypsyn. Given the information presented, I think its scummy for Ixam to be voting the way he is on such a thin narrow-minded premise while completely ignoring the ramifications of the town tell. Seriously, voting position is everything on day one as really the only concern? You overtook Krypsyn on my scum list. That was all.

As to mentioning Krypsyn, I was making the point I am still suspicious of him (my thoughts have not changed). In part because I fear, being one of the early people to recognize the tell possibly confirming me to many, I may not survive the night.

Fishing? Fishing for what? How? I'm not asking for anything. You, Ixam are trying to create confusion to save your skin. Basically, we are approaching a deadline, I have my vote on a scummy candidate and I hope it is a scum. It's where my vote stay barring stunning confessions in the last hours...

Interesting. So you weren't voting on me to discern a bit of information from the vote trail after you.

Unvote dedoporno

Vote RWarehall

Keep an eye on RWarehall if he gives more than cursory votes on Krypsyn.

And Warehall don't worry I'm pretty sure you'll survive the night. TwilightBard or JMich, not so much.

And may I ask why did it take you a whole different post about 24 hours later to explain your vote? May I ask why did you voice your concerns of Kryps being scum, but voted for a whole different person without even remotely indicating how they are connected? You didn't even imply Ix had any correlation with your explanation of Kryps. Your position is dirty.

Oh really? I still don't see the correlation. Your entire post was centered around Kryps as scum and Ix had no part in it. Furthermore you never quite addressed the points you are addressing here.

Fishing? Fishing for an easy lynch, to answer your rather obvious question. I will state it so people can understand: You pulled that vote out of nowhere given your post. It's not your vote that annoys me, it's the entirely different explanation of why a different candidate is scum and voting for someone else than your candidate who at the moment is pretty much suspected more on the basis of confusion than of voting without explanation.

Unvote Bookwyrm
Vote RWarehall

Just like you accuse Kryps and Ix of voting inconsiderately, so am I accusing you of the same thing.

Running Commentary, but I'd probably see how long I could make the PM flavor without actually giving up any useful information, just to see how chaotic things would end up. It does sound like a right bit of fun.

Ok, I have a few thoughts after catching up. Good lord did you guys hit a whirlwind at the end here.

I'm going to be blunt, why would you even say something like that? The lack of a reason in this case, while understandable, is extremely suspicious, it allows you to change the reasoning behind it at your whim. Very easy to hide mafia knowing who is town and who isn't behind a nebulous reason that you don't quite explain enough for us to lock down.

It just strikes me as odd, as there are other ways to express this without admitting that you have a reason, especially simply by not saying anything and expressing that you think that it's more newbie mistakes from a town player.

What the actual fuck?! Ok, I can buy this reasoning if you had mentioned Ix in that post in ANY capacity before you voted for him. But you didn't, you left a lack of reasoning then came back later and tried to talk it off. So Vote first, come back with a reason a day later after you looked for one. As far as voting position though? I honestly think that's more of an interesting reasoning then a tell (That I'm guessing being the Loyalist thing) that doesn't really potentially MEAN anything.

Well, it sounds like an excuse for me, mainly for the fact that pushes the time running out aspect of what we have. A push for a quickly built lynchwagon before time runs out and the Mafia gets a free kill, and it also makes the lynchwagon a lot harder to analyze come Day 2, which means that it sets the town back from making too much progress.

Ok, for now I'm going to Unvote Dedoporno, I'm simply not sure enough to keep my vote on him, although the push for loyalist being a town read is a bit hard to completely believe, and I just am not completely convinced in general, the stalling wagon is surprising, and the speed that he and Rob came to Book's defense on a vote is...mind boggling. And let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time the town almost had a Day 1 Mafia lynch only to have someone else get dangled like a shiny object to distract us. But at the same time, he's simply not the most suspicious person here right now from my perspective and that needs to be addressed.

Now, as far as my vote....I'm going to have to Vote RWarehall, since the vote and the subsequent reasoning behind it are really bothering me, and the fact that we had to wait for such a reasoning doesn't sit well with me.

As far as the loyalist thing, here's my $.02: I think the loyalist thing is probably something more confused with being loyal to a faction, since such thing in PMs would more likely be meaningless fluff then anyway to actually confirm someone or another as town, too easy for people to mention 'that word' randomly to try to confirm themselves as town (and insanely easy to accidentally cryptoclaim, why bother making it tempting enough?).

Love your reading comprehension. See post 332. Read post 332. Tell me if claim fest and day 1 are in the same sentence. Tell me who posted it.


Verbatim? Never. But do take a look at post 299 again, specifically the last paragraph.

Off to read the rest of the posts.

I hope LifthrasilI does not mind my post, especially as I am dead/replaced. I have sent a PM to both LifthrasilI and Sage to apologise, but I just wanted to apologise here as well for any troubles my absence has caused.

My family emergency was both seriously and upsetting for me - I lost my niece, my mother had a bad fall and broke some bones, and a few days later my partner had to be admitted into hospital. I was not thinking clearly when I asked Sage to tell LifthrasilI I would be absent. To be honest, I did not think it would be a problem and I definitely did not think it would get Sage into any bother, and for that I am sorry Sage (please don't blame Sage, it was all my fault). Sage and I have never discussed anything about a mafia game we are playing, those of you who know Sage will know she is not the type to be so underhanded. Our only exchange was to pass on the message. The reason I did not tell LifthrasilI was because I was rather upset, not thinking straight, and I was pressed for time. So for the troubles I caused and the disruption of the game, I apologise.

Anyway, I hope you all have a very fun game! I'm off to go play on the abandoned Ferris wheel.

After reading her QT with you from the last game I'll no longer be fooled into thinking Sage is all sweetness and light... ;)

After reading over the thread again I can say that I don't think RWarehall is scum. His switching of votes from Krypsyn to Ixamyakxim is understandable to me because of Ixamyakxim's behavior. Ixamyakxim's style of play could always be this way, but I don't know this for sure as I've only played with him one other time and he was scum acting this way.

I stil have my doubts about Bookwyrm, but the last thing we need is 3 different people to be voted on. So because of the erratic behavior of Ixamyakxim

Vote Ixamyakxim

Let's put it this way. I correctly noticed what Dedo was referring to. Why? Because it was similar to my town PM. To make sure, I dropped a hint to Dedo's chagrin. How else would I know? You really think I just guessed?

So, how in the heck can these people try to lynch me when I've demonstrated I have a town PM? Are they breeding confusion? Are they doing this to create a no-lynch to save their scum-buddy Ixam?

They don't like the fact I left out the obvious explanation in my original post. So where were they earlier when Krypsyn voted with zero reason and refused to explain. Notice, no votes there. Maybe because it looked like we were going to lynch a townie. Now with a likely scum on the noose and 24 hours to go, they try to switch the train. Frankly, I thought my vote was obvious. I'm voting for someone who is trying desperately to lynch one of the people who has shown knowledge of the town tell.