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Barry_Woodward: I didn't. The title is: "GOG isn't interested in selling Braid!? SERIOUSLY!?" What's inaccurate about that?
Are you claiming that you're not trying to take the mutual disinterest of both parties and put it on GOG's shoulders? You explicitly refer to Braid being "rejected by GOG" in your second post.
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Barry_Woodward: Keep voting:

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/braid -788 votes so far
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/the_witness -119 votes
I again want to encourage people to only vote if you would buy the game if it came here.

You CAN also make your voice heard via Support/Contact, if you want - http://www.gog.com/support/contact/other_questions_issues
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Post edited August 10, 2014 by tfishell
he didn't say they rejected it he said that they couldn't come to an agreement. there is a difference.

braid and other indie games aren't old enough that they have that vintage style to them. in addition, games like that feel pretty much at home on humble if you're not getting them on Steam. maybe gog thought it wouldn't sell well if people already had it, and if they didn't, they could get it elsewhere, especially when there is a lot of flak for them when they add a title that isn't old from some of gog.

strange about thomas was alone, though. I fully intend to play that at some point. I have it on humble. I probably wouldn't buy it if it came here. maybe gog knows something about it. I hear that's a really good game though. I would've thought it would have a place on gog. nice fit. but I guess there's reasons for it to not be.
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johnnygoging: he didn't say they rejected it he said that they couldn't come to an agreement. there is a difference.
Actually he didn't say they couldn't come to an agreement either. He said that discussions just sort of stopped.
Post edited August 10, 2014 by Barry_Woodward
Fact is no one knows what the issue was with bringing the game here. Only GOG and the dev know. And there seems to be no solid information on it. It could be that neither party thought it would sell well. It could be that GOG didn't think it was good material for them. It could be that they couldn't agree on pricing. It could be that perhaps the dev wanted a bigger cut than GOG was willing to offer. There could be a ton of reasons why a game doesn't show up here and I highly doubt GOG would divulge any of them.

But seriously, how many of these threads are we going to see? Every time a game doesn't show up on GOG, do we need a thread of incredulous disbelief that it's not here?
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Coelocanth: But seriously, how many of these threads are we going to see? Every time a game doesn't show up on GOG, do we need a thread of incredulous disbelief that it's not here?
You mean I shouldn't start a thread asking for all the new AAA titles? You are taking all the fun out of it :(
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Coelocanth: But seriously, how many of these threads are we going to see? Every time a game doesn't show up on GOG, do we need a thread of incredulous disbelief that it's not here?
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trentonlf: You mean I shouldn't start a thread asking for all the new AAA titles? You are taking all the fun out of it :(
Oooooo good idea!!
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Post edited August 10, 2014 by Crewdroog
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Coelocanth: But seriously, how many of these threads are we going to see? Every time a game doesn't show up on GOG, do we need a thread of incredulous disbelief that it's not here?
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trentonlf: You mean I shouldn't start a thread asking for all the new AAA titles? You are taking all the fun out of it :(
Better idea. Contact the publishers of said AAA titles and tell them to stop being tightasses, in a polite way, of course. Maybe mention wishlist numbers and let the other members know, so we can "raid" their forums. :)
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IanM: Do you want GOG to be like Steam and just totally open for any game to be sold here? if so I think the quality of customer support will be lost forever.
"Any game"? You are aware that Braid is better than 90% of the indies sold here, right? The problem with GOG is the total lack of criteria. Stuff like Surgeon Simulator, Slender and Dark Matter are accepted (ok, Dark Matter was pulled, but that game should never had been sold in the first place), while good games like Braid and MaW 3 get rejected. It really doesn't make any sense at all.

Of course no one wants GOG to open the floodgates like Steam did, but we're not talking about a shitty flash or RPGMaker game like those on Desura, for fuck's sake. Braid may not appeal to everyone, but no game in GOG's catalog will ever appeal to everyone. In fact, i didn't enjoy it that much myself, but it's not a bad game by any means and really deserves its place in GOG.
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LiquidOxygen80: Better idea. Contact the publishers of said AAA titles and tell them to stop being tightasses, in a polite way, of course. Maybe mention wishlist numbers and let the other members know, so we can "raid" their forums. :)
Why the fuck should anyone bother to contact publishers if GOG is not interested in selling games?
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Barry_Woodward: But there are plenty of older indie games that have been a part of bundles and heavily discounted in numerous Steam sales that sold just fine here. The assumption that everyone that would want the game already has it is inaccurate, not to mention the sales from people that would buy it again just to have it on their game shelves.
Mark of the Ninja, for example.
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BreOl72: Fixed that for you. ;)

Btw - it never is, was or will be a good idea to follow the hypetrain.
Oh yeah? There are quite a few games here in GOG that i really consider to be extremely overrated, and i don't think GOG should refuse to sell those games because of that.
Post edited August 10, 2014 by Neobr10
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IanM: Do you want GOG to be like Steam and just totally open for any game to be sold here? if so I think the quality of customer support will be lost forever.
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Neobr10: "Any game"? You are aware that Braid is better than 90% of the indies sold here, right? The problem with GOG is the total lack of criteria. Stuff like Surgeon Simulator, Slender and Dark Matter are accepted (ok, Dark Matter was pulled, but that game should never had been sold in the first place), while good games like Braid and MaW 3 get rejected. It really doesn't make any sense at all.

Of course no one wants GOG to open the floodgates like Steam did, but we're not talking about a shitty flash or RPGMaker game like those on Desura, for fuck's sake. Braid may not appeal to everyone, but no game in GOG's catalog will ever appeal to everyone. In fact, i didn't enjoy it that much myself, but it's not a bad game by any means and really deserves its place in GOG.
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LiquidOxygen80: Better idea. Contact the publishers of said AAA titles and tell them to stop being tightasses, in a polite way, of course. Maybe mention wishlist numbers and let the other members know, so we can "raid" their forums. :)
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Neobr10: Why the fuck should anyone bother to contact publishers if GOG is not interested in selling games?
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Barry_Woodward: But there are plenty of older indie games that have been a part of bundles and heavily discounted in numerous Steam sales that sold just fine here. The assumption that everyone that would want the game already has it is inaccurate, not to mention the sales from people that would buy it again just to have it on their game shelves.
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Neobr10: Mark of the Ninja, for example.
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BreOl72: Fixed that for you. ;)

Btw - it never is, was or will be a good idea to follow the hypetrain.
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Neobr10: Oh yeah? There are quite a few games here in GOG that i really consider to be extremely overrated, and i don't think GOG should refuse to sell those games because of that.
This has to be the biggest overreaction in the history of overreactions. You DO realize that because ONE game that you have zero actual knowledge of WHY it was no longer pursued, isn't worth the completely hyperbolic reaction here, right?
I didn't like it one bit, but I'm still sad that I can't ridcule -sorry- I meant ignore it here...
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LiquidOxygen80: This has to be the biggest overreaction in the history of overreactions. You DO realize that because ONE game that you have zero actual knowledge of WHY it was no longer pursued, isn't worth the completely hyperbolic reaction here, right?
One game? I don't think you have read the other threads in the first page. And i don't think you have been to the forum that often. GOG rejecting decent games is not something new, you know (they even backtracked in some cases, like with The Cat Lady, for example, whch was refused at first). At least do some research before calling it overreaction, would you?

And if you read my post carefully, i'm not exactly complaining about GOG's rejection of title X or Y. I'm complaining about the total lack of criteria. Stuff like Slender and Surgeon Simulator are accepted, while MUCH better games are not. Heck, we even had an unfinished game here (Dark Matter).
Post edited August 11, 2014 by Neobr10
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Coelocanth: Fact is no one knows what the issue was with bringing the game here. Only GOG and the dev know. And there seems to be no solid information on it. It could be that neither party thought it would sell well. It could be that GOG didn't think it was good material for them. It could be that they couldn't agree on pricing. It could be that perhaps the dev wanted a bigger cut than GOG was willing to offer. There could be a ton of reasons why a game doesn't show up here and I highly doubt GOG would divulge any of them.

But seriously, how many of these threads are we going to see? Every time a game doesn't show up on GOG, do we need a thread of incredulous disbelief that it's not here?
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this+1. we really don't need a new thread whenever game x doesn't appear on gog for any reason
The problem is that for most of the games we want to see here (LucasArts, id, Bethesda, etc) we assume GOG is doing everything in its power (short of violating its core principles) to attain. It's very worrying and disheartening when GOG turns down (or appears disinterested in) any good game that the developer would be willing to sell here.

Let me ask you this: If GOG has turned down Braid (one of the most beloved indie games) and Hovertank (one of the most influential classic games) what is to say they haven't turned down your most-wished for game? For all we know LucasArts offered to sell Grim Fandango here and GOG rejected it.
Post edited August 11, 2014 by ecamber
I absolutely love Braid. I may possibly double dip if it's released on GOG :o

Although, I have to agree, at this point, I'm more interested in The Witness. I've been patiently waiting for that to be released for years >_>