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!!! PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING !!!

== BUG REPORTING ==

Please use: http://mantis.gog.com and include
1. steps to reproduce the bug (if possible)
2. screenshot or movie showing the bug (if possible)
3. Galaxy Client logs (see below)

Where can I find Galaxy logs on my computer?
On Windows 7 or later: C:\ProgramData\GOG.com\Galaxy\Logs
On Mac OS X: /Users/Shared/GOG.com/Galaxy/Logs

== FEATURE SUGGESTIONS ==

Please use: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy. For feature suggestions and votes on them please try do explain how Galaxy and its users will really benefit from it.

== IMPORT ALREADY INSTALLED GAMES TO GALAXY ==

1. For GOG games installed using installers from the last few months (so called Galaxy-compatible installers)
Click the Galaxy logo button on top of the sidebar and select "scan and import folders" - it will find all compatible games within that folder and add them to the Client.

2. For remaining GOG game INSTALLATIONS
Find the game in the Library (click on the image of the game), then click the More button and select "Manage Installation" -> "Import folder" and point the folder selector into the folder where that game is installed.

== KNOWN ISSUES ==
- throttling max download speed is not yet possible
- notifications related to incoming chat messages and friend requests does not always disappear instantly when consumed and may require reloading Store page
- games imported from existing installations will auto-update once, even if updating is disabled
- Moving Galaxy from /Applications on Mac OS X will stop the app from working
- Galaxy cannot be launched by other users on the same computer
Post edited October 03, 2016 by Liosan
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Hi Everyone,

Below you can find the changelog of GOG Galaxy.

Changelog 1.1.15 (September 7th, 2016):
Changes / Improvements:
• Added Wallet button in dropdown menu under user's avatar
• Performance improvements on UI speed and a little on CPU usage
• Enabled copying text in Galaxy forums
• History will now remember only the 100 most recent pages in history
Bugfixes:
• Fix for "Disk access problem" bug, which broke installation and updates of games. (Bug happened on Windows only, but general mechanism is better on OS X as well)
• Fix for Verify/Repair, which did not work in some scenarios (The above bug for example)
• Fix for "Server problem" while downloading backup installers or other goodies. They will now work, even if temporary download folder is same as destination folder
• Fixed situations in which Store page sometimes did not load properly after waking up computer

Changelog 1.1.16 (September 19th, 2016):
Improvements:
• Galaxy now supports H.264 codecs
• Much better handling of paying using third party processors (PayPal, paysafecard etc.)
• Friends and chat window now scale with the system scaling factor
• New and prettier GOG Eula will be used in games
• Better handling of loading timeouts

Bugfixes:
• "INSTALLED" label will appear all pages of the library now
• Fixed a bug with game time tracking for some games. Galaxy will now register more than one minute:)
• Fixed a bug in which Galaxy in rare cases could not be able to update the game (bug rather existed in rollbacks)
• Galaxy will no longer show a little bit of bare code upon launching
• Fixed blurred images in sidebar expanded list mode

Changelog 1.1.17(hotfix September 20th, 2016):
• Fixed crashes and 'Disk Access Problem' caused by updating Galaxy from 1.1.12 (and earlier versions) to 1.1.16

Changelog 1.1.18 (October 19th, 2016):
Improvements:
• More accurate game time tracking mechanism
• Improved mechanism showing current online status between friends

Bugfixes:
• Fixed a bug which caused Galaxy to stop tracking game time

Changelog 1.1.19 (October 25th, 2016):
Improvements:
• We have removed download size from Galaxy updater. It showed faulty data, as Galaxy Updater doesn't download > 100mb each time and only downloads differences. It will come back in nearest future, when it will show correct data:)
• The first check for game updates will be done 15s after Galaxy starts, instead of 5 minutes.
• OSX: Improved mechanism responsible for removing old files left by Galaxy updates
• OSX: Improved the way Galaxy handles installing games into protected locations like /Applications; you will receive a password prompt about a "Helper tool" installation

Bugfixes:
• Fixed "Essential components missing" error which sometimes appeared after fresh installation
• Fixed a situation where failure in Updater could lead to Galaxy not being able to launch
• Fixed self-update on OSX to properly delete leftover files
• Fixed friends window losing functionality after network loss and reconnect
• Fixed blurry Windows 10 Galaxy tray icon
• Galaxy will remember maximised window status

Changelog 1.1.20(November 2nd, 2016)
Bugfixes:
• Fixed installing XNA4 and other msi-based dependencies.
• Store page won't be reloaded twice upon logging in

Changelog: 1.1.21 (November 17th, 2016)
Improvements / changes:
• Added "with preview updates" suffix to Galaxy window title
• Small optimizations with memory and Galaxy loading time
• Small improvements with updater, it should fail less

Bugfixes:
• Fixed a bug with Galaxy refreshing pages
• Fixed occasional crashes

Changelog 1.1.22 (November 22nd, 2016)
Bugfixes:
• Galaxy will no longer freeze when downloading a game update and checking another game in library
• Galaxy should crash even less now:)

Changelog 1.1.23 (November 28th, 2016)
Bugfixes:
• Galaxy will be now able to reconnect to internet correctly, if computer was put to sleep and then woken up without (initially) Internet connection
• Downloading of games/updates should have less impact on starting other installations

Changelog 1.1.24(December 6th, 2016)
Bugfixes:
• Downloading an installer with Galaxy and using it to install the game should not result in redownloading the whole game again
• Updater should no longer report over 100% progress on download

Adjustments:
• Increased timeout for failures during sign in
• Increased timeout for "Loading Timeout"

Changelog 1.1.25 (December 20th, 2016)
Bugfixes:
• Fixed a crash when trying to install certain games (Game affected was 1979 Revolution: Black Friday).

Changelog 1.1.26 (December 23rd, 2016, Preview only)
Changes:
• Introduced new downloading mechanism

Changelog 1.1.27 (January 26th, 2017, Preview)
Bugfixes:
• Aborting or pausing downloads will be smoother (They will stop faster)
• Pausing downloads will no longer cause memory usage to go super high

Changelog 1.1.27 (January 31th, 2017)
Changes:
• Introduced new downloading mechanism
Bugfixes:
• Aborting or pausing downloads will be smoother (They will stop faster)
• Pausing downloads will no longer cause memory usage to go super high

Changelog 1.1.28 (March 10th, 2017)
Changes / Improvements:
- Better support for differential patches. They are now seperate depending on game's language and system bitness
- Italian & Japanese partial support + more Spanish translations
- Improved checking for new available updates of the games
- We'll sort available DLCs alphabetically
Bugfixes:
- Fixed a crash when Galaxy doesn't have permissions to the logs directory
- Fixed showing empty grey page after a while of inactivity
- Fixed infinite spinner after going to support page
- Fixed displaying of prices in cart when they were over 999 (Bug caused by a comma in the price)
- MacOS: Popup windows (for example chat) will no longer open as a tab but as a separate window instead
- MacOS: Fixed memory leak (~30MB upon GOG Galaxy launch)
- MacOS: Fixed memory leak while playing a game

Changelog 1.1.29 (March 14nd, 2017)
Changes:
- Changes in downloading mechanism, which allows for better control over download's flow
Bugfixes:
- Fixed displaying progress of differential patches (It did not display the "Extracting" status)

Changelog 1.1.30 (March 16th, 2017)
Bugfixes:
- Fixed a crash within games downloading mechanism

== PREVIEW UPDATES* ===

HOW TO ENABLE PREVIEWS?
Go to your Galaxy settings and check the option to receive preview updates.

HOW TO DISABLE PREVIEW?
- Uninstall Galaxy
- Download current installer from gog.com/galaxy
- Install Galaxy
- Import your games

Changelog 1.2.0 (March 22nd, 2017)
Changes and improvements:
- Cloud saves backup and syncing (supported games only)
- Screenshot capture with F12 (supported games only)
- In-game overlay with FPS counter and notifications (supported games only)
- Greatly improved chat, also in overlay
- Ability to enable or disable achievements, game time tracking, auto-updating games and more
- Desktop and in-game notifications system
- Ability to set bandwidth limit and scheduler
- New settings window
- Rarity information in achievements
- Abort button next to installation status
- Only one Galaxy Updater window will be shown in most cases
- GOG Galaxy updates will be downloaded in the background
- Games are now downloaded directly to their install directory, instead of a temporary location
- Galaxy changelog is displayed in Galaxy

Bugfixes:
- Fixed game time tracking issues
- Initial size of Galaxy Client window will respect Windows scaling
- Improved Windows 10 Galaxy tray icon
- Fixed a bug which caused Galaxy to redownload whole data in case of a failure of installation/update
- Thumbnail highlighting in media gallery now works properly
- Decreased client's network and CPU usage (especially for a lot of games)
- MacOS: Fixed situation when Galaxy Client could downloading due to App Nap
- MacOS: Fixed crash when logging out with "New post" popup open
- MacOS: Fixed game processes not being properly cleaned up after exiting
Post edited March 22, 2017 by TheTomasz
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For everyone who has a problem with missing api-ms-crt dlls in Client's versions post 1.1.5:
Please install one of those windows update: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2999226 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3118401
You may need to update Windows to meet the requirements for these:
For Windows 8.1 and for Windows Server 2012: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2919355
For Windows 7 and for Windows Server 2008 R2: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/976932

You can also try reinstalling Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributables 2015 (x86) if you meet above requirements.
Available here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

If above instructions doesn't work for you, create a separate issue on mantis.gog.com and we'll try to help you individually.

Please note that this solution only helps with the missing api-ms-crt dlls.


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Answering this question: Why 1.1 doesn't work after updating to 1.2?

This is happening probably due to incompatible database from version 1.2, please delete this folder:
%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\GOG.com\Galaxy\storage
usually
C:\ProgramData\GOG.com\storage\

Then you'll have to use scan&import (menu under the top Galaxy logo) function to see your games back in Galaxy Client.
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Post edited March 27, 2017 by TheTomasz
are we getting an updated for the client before the end of the year? Development is so slow...
Is there no achievement support for games still? I just played through Witcher 2 and got no achievements. Its disappointing and is making me consider getting games on Steam instead until they implement achievement support.

I like achievements, so telling me they are meaningless is pointless. If Steam allows us to unlock achievements and Galaxy doesn't, for me personally, that's a major detraction.
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lefantome89: are we getting an updated for the client before the end of the year? Development is so slow...
I got an update just now, no idea what is new, options still look the same.
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Skeksis25: Is there no achievement support for games still? I just played through Witcher 2 and got no achievements. Its disappointing and is making me consider getting games on Steam instead until they implement achievement support.

I like achievements, so telling me they are meaningless is pointless. If Steam allows us to unlock achievements and Galaxy doesn't, for me personally, that's a major detraction.
I have actually stopped buying games on Steam for now because achievements are not optional, unlike on Galaxy. I suggest you read this and see what you think about the matter.
Post edited December 14, 2015 by Future_Suture
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TrueDosGamer: snip
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BKGaming: I'm sorry, but this is not something I care about to respond to all these points. GOG has stated that official support for Galaxy is for Windows 7 and up and I doubt complaining will change that. It's the way it is and that's all that matters.

If you are using newer OS, which I believe you said you are... I really don't know why it matters to you. The vast majority of GOG's catalog will work on these newer OS without the need of being on an old OS, and in the few cases were you might need an older OS you don't really need Galaxy.

Eventually everyone will update, it is inevitable like most technology changes are, unless your like that one dude still on DOS in which case you not GOG's target audience really anyway.
I didn't say I was running on a newer OS. I said I had a MultiOS Boot. This is probably something you're not familiar with or know how to do. But to put it simply you can have XP 32-bit / Vista 64-bit / Windows 7 64-bit / and Windows 8.0 should you choose and probably Windows 10.0 unless they mucked the bootloader all on one hard drive. All OSs are choosable when the computer turns on. Granted the best way to do this is using multiple partitions so each OS resides on its own partition. I'm not going to get into all the nitty gritty details because you aren't interested and it is probably too technical for you and most people to want to do on your own. Majority of people probably bought their computer with the OS preinstalled. If you're one of those people you won't get it. A lot of times preloaded OS systems come with additional software which is known as bloatware. Software installed by the manufacturer on top of a freshly installed OS. Second you probably won't have the original Windows CD since they probably have only a restoration image to revert to wiping out all your data. If you build a computer and get all the appropriate drivers for the hardware you can get a much faster running more stable OS than one preinstalled with bloatware.


Now should I choose to boot up on Windows Vista or 7 I have that option but I primarily have it set up to use just Windows XP 32-bit as default since all things run faster and it has a better user interface. Load times are much faster and daily operations as well.


Like I said GOG's client most likely won't be CPU intensive either but it will run even faster on XP. If you're not into having an efficient operating system that does what you want in a timely matter you won't understand. If you like adding additional steps to get where you're going and more eye candy to slow down the computer in your user interface then you probably won't care about what I'm talking about.

I don't agree with the statement that eventually everyone will update. So you're saying you would stay on Windows 8 because let's say that was the last version of Windows released? You'd rather deal with that than Windows 7 or Vista? If you look back in history a lot of people who first used Vista were turned off by it and did a downgrade back to XP. This is the same case for Windows 8 users who wanted to downgrade to Windows 7 until Windows 8.1 released to fix some of these complaints although most would probably still choose Windows 7 over Windows 8.1 given the choice.

The only time people would voluntarily choose to use a worser operating system user interface is because it came with the computer. There aren't too many people who know how to locate all the drivers for their hardware for the operating system they are going to install. Most people buy something preinstalled with bloatware and ready to go because they don't have the knowledge or time and because the item was cheap or on sale.

I also doubt there is someone using just DOS only today and not Windows. It would be a nightmare since internet access wouldn't really be possible anymore due to the formatting of the web and the lack of a way to connect to broadband instead of just dial up it would be sluggish as hell waiting for things to download. If anything they would be doing what I'm doing a combination of operating systems in a multiOS set up.

Gog's target audience are people who loved the old classic games. Classic games would probably be in the DOS era and early Windows 95/98 era and some XP titles. Games they no longer can play due to the operating system they are currently using and have no way to get the older computer with that operating to run it. If you're saying Gog no longer cares about the older games and people who played them then they should just stop listing those titles completely since that audience has evaporated now according to you and focus on Steam exclusive titles without DRM. If they are from a time frame post XP era of gaming then they would not care or touch games that far back or appreciate them since the graphics and sound are so outdated. Tell me how many people would rather play Zork 1 vs GTA V if they've only played Windows 7 era games? Now judging by your avatar you're probably more into seeing something sci-fi based. If there's one title from the DOS side I'd like to see in that category released it is Spectrum Holobyte's "A Final Unity" for XP, 7, and 10. It's more of a pain to deal with CDrom drives in the DOS days than it is in Windows and this was a CD exclusive title. I would say it is probably one of the best ST DOS games next to ST the 25th Anniversary. If there's one thing I loved hearing it was that engine core humming in the background and the graphics weren't too bad for its time either.

If you want to move forward I would be more interested in a Steam like GOG Client that focused on free online network play that just worked on XP, 7, and 10 game titles. This would cut down on the OSes and keep to the big three. No need to expend resources on Linux and MAC OS since by your definition XP's marketshare is a dead OS and all these other OSes total way under XPs share. There are plenty of multiplayer XP and 7 games alone that I would enjoy playing without DRM or some 3rd party DRM like client to be installed. Now if you're really gung ho about GOG just going for the latest then just make GOG client support Windows 10 only since 7 is outdated nearing 6 years (realistically 9 years since it is really Vista with eye candy) and on its way out and focus on DirectX 12.0 titles. But I'd rather they change their name to GNG (Great New Games) to compete with Steam. My biggest beef with Steam is DRM so I'm very picky about which titles I really want to deal with there because some require Uplay, Origin, or some other 3rd party client besides just Steam.
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TrueDosGamer: I didn't say I was running on a newer OS. I said I had a MultiOS Boot. This is probably something you're not familiar with or know how to do. But to put it simply you can have XP 32-bit / Vista 64-bit / Windows 7 64-bit / and Windows 8.0 should you choose and probably Windows 10.0 unless they mucked the bootloader all on one hard drive. All OSs are choosable when the computer turns on. Granted the best way to do this is using multiple partitions so each OS resides on its own partition. I'm not going to get into all the nitty gritty details because you aren't interested and it is probably too technical for you and most people to want to do on your own. Majority of people probably bought their computer with the OS preinstalled. If you're one of those people you won't get it. A lot of times preloaded OS systems come with additional software which is known as bloatware. Software installed by the manufacturer on top of a freshly installed OS. Second you probably won't have the original Windows CD since they probably have only a restoration image to revert to wiping out all your data. If you build a computer and get all the appropriate drivers for the hardware you can get a much faster running more stable OS than one preinstalled with bloatware.
So you just assume somebody doesn't know how to do something now? I said I believe that is what you said, truthfully as I said I'm not interested in the conversation. For your info though, I also run a multi-boot system with Windows 10/ Linux Mint. So I'm very aware how this works thanks. I also love how you talk down to me like I have no idea what you talking about even though I'm studying programming (about to graduate by the way) and have set up multiple partitions, VM's, & know how to build computers, etc.

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TrueDosGamer: I don't agree with the statement that eventually everyone will update. So you're saying you would stay on Windows 8 because let's say that was the last version of Windows released? You'd rather deal with that than Windows 7 or Vista? If you look back in history a lot of people who first used Vista were turned off by it and did a downgrade back to XP. This is the same case for Windows 8 users who wanted to downgrade to Windows 7 until Windows 8.1 released to fix some of these complaints although most would probably still choose Windows 7 over Windows 8.1 given the choice.
But 8 wasn't the last Windows OS, and I doubt 10 will be either (even with MS kind of claiming it is). This is an important difference, 10 is vastly superior to 8 and has gotten mostly positive reviews. When support runs out and software stops being released for an older OS, absolutely... it might take a while but people will upgrade either with a new PC or manually. That's like saying people are still running DOS today... sure somebody might be out there, but the vast majority moved on long ago when support ended and software stopped releasing on it. Same will happen with every OS that's replaced with better software and technology.

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TrueDosGamer: I also doubt there is someone using just DOS only today and not Windows. It would be a nightmare since internet access wouldn't really be possible anymore due to the formatting of the web and the lack of a way to connect to broadband instead of just dial up it would be sluggish as hell waiting for things to download. If anything they would be doing what I'm doing a combination of operating systems in a multiOS set up.
Which is my entire point, your thinking short term... even if it takes 5 years or 10+ years, eventually nobody will be running XP or Vista or whatever. It's like someone using DOS today, technology changes to fast to stay on something so old.

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TrueDosGamer: Gog's target audience are people who loved the old classic games. Classic games would probably be in the DOS era and early Windows 95/98 era and some XP titles. Games they no longer can play due to the operating system they are currently using and have no way to get the older computer with that operating to run it. If you're saying Gog no longer cares about the older games and people who played them then they should just stop listing those titles completely since that audience has evaporated now according to you and focus on Steam exclusive titles without DRM. If they are from a time frame post XP era of gaming then they would not care or touch games that far back or appreciate them since the graphics and sound are so outdated. Tell me how many people would rather play Zork 1 vs GTA V if they've only played Windows 7 era games? Now judging by your avatar you're probably more into seeing something sci-fi based. If there's one title from the DOS side I'd like to see in that category released it is Spectrum Holobyte's "A Final Unity" for XP, 7, and 10. It's more of a pain to deal with CDrom drives in the DOS days than it is in Windows and this was a CD exclusive title. I would say it is probably one of the best ST DOS games next to ST the 25th Anniversary. If there's one thing I loved hearing it was that engine core humming in the background and the graphics weren't too bad for its time either.
This use to be GOG target audience, that changes a few years ago when they became GOG and not Good Old Games. As you can tell by all the new games released here. But even then there target audience was classic games on modern OS's not classic games on old OS's.

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TrueDosGamer: If you want to move forward I would be more interested in a Steam like GOG Client that focused on free online network play that just worked on XP, 7, and 10 game titles. This would cut down on the OSes and keep to the big three. No need to expend resources on Linux and MAC OS since by your definition XP's marketshare is a dead OS and all these other OSes total way under XPs share. There are plenty of multiplayer XP and 7 games alone that I would enjoy playing without DRM or some 3rd party DRM like client to be installed. Now if you're really gung ho about GOG just going for the latest then just make GOG client support Windows 10 only since 7 is outdated nearing 6 years (realistically 9 years since it is really Vista with eye candy) and on its way out and focus on DirectX 12.0 titles. But I'd rather they change their name to GNG (Great New Games) to compete with Steam. My biggest beef with Steam is DRM so I'm very picky about which titles I really want to deal with there because some require Uplay, Origin, or some other 3rd party client besides just Steam.
Comparing XP to MAC OS or Linux is nonsense... these OS's have always had a small market share, so all they can really do is go is up. And with Valve pushing Linux, this could change a lot. Windows XP has been on a constant decline for a long time and will continue to do so, XP is not going to magically regain market share, it going to continue to lose support until it fads away. How long will it take? Nobody can say, but at the rate Windows 10 is gaining market share, and considering most people update computers on average at-least every 5 years so anyone running XP or Vista is going to be ready to buy a new PC... it will continue.

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Take care though, I'm not getting off point anymore. Galaxy is supported on Windows 7 and up, you accept that or you don't.... not much I can say to change that.

If you want to continue to debate this, do it in this thread, with people who are going to tell you the same thing I am.
Post edited December 15, 2015 by BKGaming
can someone tell me how to download games that i purchase
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MIRE12251980: can someone tell me how to download games that i purchase
With Galaxy? Start Galaxy, go up top to library. Click on the game and then click the blue install button.
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Venom: !!! PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING !!!

== BUG REPORTING ==

Please use: http://mantis.gog.com and include
1. steps to reproduce the bug (if possible)
2. screenshot or movie showing the bug (if possible)
3. Galaxy Client logs (see below)

Where can I find Galaxy logs on my computer?
On Windows Vista or later: C:\ProgramData\GOG.com\Galaxy\Logs
On Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\GOG.com\Galaxy\Logs
On Mac OS X: /Users/Shared/GOG.com/Galaxy/Logs

== FEATURE SUGGESTIONS ==

Please use: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy. For feature suggestions and votes on them please try do explain how Galaxy and its users will really benefit from it.

== IMPORT ALREADY INSTALLED GAMES TO GALAXY ==

1. For GOG games installed using installers from the last few months (so called Galaxy-compatible installers)
Click the "+" button on top of the sidebar and select "scan and import folders" - it will find all compatible games within that folder and add them to the Client.

2. For remaining GOG game INSTALLATIONS
Find the game in the Library (click on the image of the game), then click the More button and select "Manage" -> "Import folder" and point the folder selector into the folder where that game is installed.
Please be aware that Client will accept any folder pointed to and will overwrite files inside it (this can for example wipe some mods or damage other apps in case of pointing to a wrong folder) and will update the game to the newest version (current default language English).

== KNOWN ISSUES ==
- throttling max download speed is not yet possible
- notifications related to incoming chat messages and friend requests does not always disappear instantly when consumed and may require reloading Store page
- games imported from existing installations will auto-update once, even if updating is disabled
- Moving Galaxy from /Applications on Mac OS X will stop the app from working
- Galaxy cannot be launched by other users on the same computer
gdzie jest opcja dla ustawienia języka polskiego w tych wiadomościach?

firma CD Projekt z Polski, użytkownicy z Polski, a postów po polsku nie można uświadczyć.
Hello!

This is for the GOG Galaxy team. When i backup files and extras in Galaxy i wished there were a some sort of hash-checker to see if the games/extras actually already been downloaded to the default/specified folder. Now it just re-downloads them again even if it's the same files. I also want some sort of notifications in Galaxy if there's a new versions available and auto updating for backups although that would take a toll on the servers perhaps so i don't have big hopes for that though. There's no way to see which version you have installed or which version is the newest also that would be quite a nice feature to have in Galaxy.

Thanks!
Post edited December 15, 2015 by klappis
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gogst3r: gdzie jest opcja dla ustawienia języka polskiego w tych wiadomościach?

firma CD Projekt z Polski, użytkownicy z Polski, a postów po polsku nie można uświadczyć.
W Polsce jest może góra kilka tysięcy użytkowników, kontra cały świat. Trzeba mieć priorytety by utrzymać się na rynku.
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TrueDosGamer: I didn't say I was running on a newer OS. I said I had a MultiOS Boot. This is probably something you're not familiar with or know how to do. But to put it simply you can have XP 32-bit / Vista 64-bit / Windows 7 64-bit / and Windows 8.0 should you choose and probably Windows 10.0 unless they mucked the bootloader all on one hard drive. All OSs are choosable when the computer turns on. Granted the best way to do this is using multiple partitions so each OS resides on its own partition. I'm not going to get into all the nitty gritty details because you aren't interested and it is probably too technical for you and most people to want to do on your own. Majority of people probably bought their computer with the OS preinstalled. If you're one of those people you won't get it. A lot of times preloaded OS systems come with additional software which is known as bloatware. Software installed by the manufacturer on top of a freshly installed OS. Second you probably won't have the original Windows CD since they probably have only a restoration image to revert to wiping out all your data. If you build a computer and get all the appropriate drivers for the hardware you can get a much faster running more stable OS than one preinstalled with bloatware.
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BKGaming: So you just assume somebody doesn't know how to do something now? I said I believe that is what you said, truthfully as I said I'm not interested in the conversation. For your info though, I also run a multi-boot system with Windows 10/ Linux Mint. So I'm very aware how this works thanks. I also love how you talk down to me like I have no idea what you talking about even though I'm studying programming (about to graduate by the way) and have set up multiple partitions, VM's, & know how to build computers, etc.

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TrueDosGamer: I don't agree with the statement that eventually everyone will update. So you're saying you would stay on Windows 8 because let's say that was the last version of Windows released? You'd rather deal with that than Windows 7 or Vista? If you look back in history a lot of people who first used Vista were turned off by it and did a downgrade back to XP. This is the same case for Windows 8 users who wanted to downgrade to Windows 7 until Windows 8.1 released to fix some of these complaints although most would probably still choose Windows 7 over Windows 8.1 given the choice.
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BKGaming: But 8 wasn't the last Windows OS, and I doubt 10 will be either (even with MS kind of claiming it is). This is an important difference, 10 is vastly superior to 8 and has gotten mostly positive reviews. When support runs out and software stops being released for an older OS, absolutely... it might take a while but people will upgrade either with a new PC or manually. That's like saying people are still running DOS today... sure somebody might be out there, but the vast majority moved on long ago when support ended and software stopped releasing on it. Same will happen with every OS that's replaced with better software and technology.

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TrueDosGamer: I also doubt there is someone using just DOS only today and not Windows. It would be a nightmare since internet access wouldn't really be possible anymore due to the formatting of the web and the lack of a way to connect to broadband instead of just dial up it would be sluggish as hell waiting for things to download. If anything they would be doing what I'm doing a combination of operating systems in a multiOS set up.
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BKGaming: Which is my entire point, your thinking short term... even if it takes 5 years or 10+ years, eventually nobody will be running XP or Vista or whatever. It's like someone using DOS today, technology changes to fast to stay on something so old.

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TrueDosGamer: Gog's target audience are people who loved the old classic games. Classic games would probably be in the DOS era and early Windows 95/98 era and some XP titles. Games they no longer can play due to the operating system they are currently using and have no way to get the older computer with that operating to run it. If you're saying Gog no longer cares about the older games and people who played them then they should just stop listing those titles completely since that audience has evaporated now according to you and focus on Steam exclusive titles without DRM. If they are from a time frame post XP era of gaming then they would not care or touch games that far back or appreciate them since the graphics and sound are so outdated. Tell me how many people would rather play Zork 1 vs GTA V if they've only played Windows 7 era games? Now judging by your avatar you're probably more into seeing something sci-fi based. If there's one title from the DOS side I'd like to see in that category released it is Spectrum Holobyte's "A Final Unity" for XP, 7, and 10. It's more of a pain to deal with CDrom drives in the DOS days than it is in Windows and this was a CD exclusive title. I would say it is probably one of the best ST DOS games next to ST the 25th Anniversary. If there's one thing I loved hearing it was that engine core humming in the background and the graphics weren't too bad for its time either.
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BKGaming: This use to be GOG target audience, that changes a few years ago when they became GOG and not Good Old Games. As you can tell by all the new games released here. But even then there target audience was classic games on modern OS's not classic games on old OS's.

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TrueDosGamer: If you want to move forward I would be more interested in a Steam like GOG Client that focused on free online network play that just worked on XP, 7, and 10 game titles. This would cut down on the OSes and keep to the big three. No need to expend resources on Linux and MAC OS since by your definition XP's marketshare is a dead OS and all these other OSes total way under XPs share. There are plenty of multiplayer XP and 7 games alone that I would enjoy playing without DRM or some 3rd party DRM like client to be installed. Now if you're really gung ho about GOG just going for the latest then just make GOG client support Windows 10 only since 7 is outdated nearing 6 years (realistically 9 years since it is really Vista with eye candy) and on its way out and focus on DirectX 12.0 titles. But I'd rather they change their name to GNG (Great New Games) to compete with Steam. My biggest beef with Steam is DRM so I'm very picky about which titles I really want to deal with there because some require Uplay, Origin, or some other 3rd party client besides just Steam.
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BKGaming: Comparing XP to MAC OS or Linux is nonsense... these OS's have always had a small market share, so all they can really do is go is up. And with Valve pushing Linux, this could change a lot. Windows XP has been on a constant decline for a long time and will continue to do so, XP is not going to magically regain market share, it going to continue to lose support until it fads away. How long will it take? Nobody can say, but at the rate Windows 10 is gaining market share, and considering most people update computers on average at-least every 5 years so anyone running XP or Vista is going to be ready to buy a new PC... it will continue.

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Take care though, I'm not getting off point anymore. Galaxy is supported on Windows 7 and up, you accept that or you don't.... not much I can say to change that.

If you want to continue to debate this, do it in this thread, with people who are going to tell you the same thing I am.
First you never answered what OS you were using while making claims that GOG won't support XP due to the small percentage actually using GOG. I asked you for the link and you never supplied any to back up what you stated except point to Steam's statistics which you can't assume are going to reflect GOG's unless they released their own OS used by users breakdown.

You never attempted to even respond to what I said previously except a few lines stating you're not interested to any of my points which means either you couldn't respond because you have nothing to back up what you are saying to them or you didn't bother to read it.

Obviously you missed the entire point of why I setup the Multi OS boot. On modern hardware XP runs even faster than using something like Windows 10. As for your own Windows 10 / Mint setup. That's not really technical to do now is it? It's easier to setup up newer OS in Multi-Boot then it would be older OSs if you want to make that statement that you are an expert at it. A lot of Linux installs come with bootloaders to take care of not messing with your Windows bootloader. Otherwise there would be less people willing to play around with Linux. I don't find this hard at all and both Windows 10 and Linux Mint come with plenty of preinstalled drivers to make it work out of the box so you don't have to hunt for the drivers. Try doing a Win98SE / XP 32-bit / Vista DX 11 multiOS boot with all drivers installed on modern hardware and I would be impressed by your statement.

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Post edited December 16, 2015 by TrueDosGamer
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BKGaming:
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Congratulations on nearing graduation. I graduated several times with multiple majors but what you will realized is it really doesn't get you anywhere and it is just a piece of paper. The journey of exploration picking the classes from a list of acceptable ones to fulfill the requirements is where the fun is and where you have the most control. If you are truly a CS major and completing your BS then I suggest you continue on to your Master program if you have the funding or worst case get a school loan. A BS degree is like a High School Diploma of yesteryear when it was required to get a job now it's like okay what makes you special you got a BS so does everyone else. Even with a MS in CS at least you'll get a bigger foot in the door. You'll have to amaze the people you're wanting to work with as the other big piece of the pie is who you know and connections. So if you've got that part down you'll be fine. But if you are one isolated super geek you might have a harder time getting into the job due to personal skills unless the entire place is full of them. But I'm not kidding when I say a BS in CS is not enough today. Employers expect more when there are so few positions and so many programmers with a Master's degree vying for the same job. Now if you're actually completing your Masters in CS then I wish you luck and find your job quick hopefully in less than 6 months before your school loans start kicking in and they want their money.

"Which is my entire point, your thinking short term... even if it takes 5 years or 10+ years, eventually nobody will be running XP or Vista or whatever. It's like someone using DOS today, technology changes to fast to stay on something so old."

That's not true. It really depends on the needs of user. If you're using the computer for web browsing and word processing can you honestly tell me the user is going to go out and buy another computer in 5 to 10 years when the computer works perfectly fine with the OS installed?

Hell I wouldn't recommend going back to Windows 98SE because it constantly crashed and was unstable. But when Windows 2000 Professional came out stability was improved dramatically and XP was the eye candied version of it which became popular. Release date was 2001 and it is almost 2016 making it close to 15 years so that definitely beats your argument that of 5-10 years. It's not short term it's what's logical. Why would you upgrade a computer that does what you want to something newer that may do the same thing or might be worse.

Let's say we go with your assumption and upgrade a person who uses a computer for web browsing and word processing.

Ivy Bridge Quad Core and running XP SP3 and runs smooth as silk.

Convince me why that person should upgrade to say Skylake and install Windows 10 and then rebuy a new version of Microsoft Office for 64bit just to do what they did before?

And convince me how the Windows 10 interface is even more efficient than XP's Quick launch interface.

The only reason why anyone would decide to upgrade to Windows 10 and even upgrade their CPU to a newer generation is to get a feature they are lacking by not upgrading.

The only thing I can come up with for your side of the argument just to help you out is unless they are a gamer would they need to upgrade to Windows 10 just to take advantage of a game that requires DirectX12 but this will do nothing for the user who is just browsing the internet and word processing.

If you're all about upgrading constantly to whatever MS puts out regardless if you understood my point if they decided to make W8 the final OS (hypothetical) and it being a bad OS and disliked would you expect people to force upgrade instead of stick with W7. Also the other point of GOG is about DRM Free. Why would you insist going to Windows 7 and 10 if you know both are heavily DRM infested as compared to XP and Vista?

If you're really a good programmer or have an eye for good code then you would see XP's user interface better than what Windows 7 or 8 put out and you can even compare the installation size between XP and 7 which is huge difference and what real benefits are you getting for all that wasted space? Vista was the only one which kept the Quick launch interface so I gave them another chance when I realized what 7 had done after being hyped so much.

As for your statement, "These two OS's are not even supported by MS anymore," -- XP and Vista

As far as the last and only Service Pack for Windows 7 it was nearly 6 years ago so I would say that's a long time without a new Service Pack and even the little patches they release now and then they could have released a SP2 by now that contained all of them in the last 6 years.

Now why are you you even using Linux Mint as a second OS when your original complaint is that supporting XP would be a waste of resources for GOG to spend time on for the Galaxy Client when the market share I've shown proof of puts Linux (not even at 2%) and that's all Linux flavors not just Linux Mint, which is only a small fraction of XP's market share (almost 11%) and yet they've started a pending Linux Galaxy client?

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy/release_the_gog_galaxy_client_for_linux

Linux at one time did have a chance to rival Windows probably during the Redhat era early 2000s but guess what happened XP squashed it by its total market share dominance nearing 80% at its peak when MS screwed themselves with a buggy Vista launch which kept people from upgrading and it took until Windows 7 arrived and when most computer hardware had caught up to specs to run this OS without it feeling like a snail next to XP. Don't get me wrong I've tried Linux before on multiple occasions and I just felt it wasn't ready for prime time yet. Although Linux Mint was getting there and I've tried Puppy Linux and a few others that don't require a hard drive installation but nothing has yet compared to XP's user interface and I'm not saying it's the best either as if I had the source code I would refine it even further with my own ideas but at the moment its the best Windows interface and most stable.

Windows 10 share is only 9% at the moment which is still beaten by XP.

And not only that I did somewhat agree with your logic and proposed that the GOG Client team just might as well skip Windows 7 support and go right to Windows 10 and just support DX 12 titles (Most Windows 7 and 8 users can upgrade to Windows 10 free which is probably where most of the surge of Windows 10 users are coming from) only according to your previous statement if the OS is outdated and Windows 7 is already 6 years old, 9 years if consider the fact it is actually Vista with service packs and an extra patching of an eye candy interface to make it look different. This would save them time from working on a Windows 7 version when Windows 10 has gained enough footing and possibly will continue to increase unless somehow it becomes another Windows 8 in disguise and rejected once again. But most likely with Xbone supporting DX 12.0 it will probably not fail.

To put into perspective your Linux / Windows 10 combined market share is about equal to XP right now.

https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

Market Share
Windows XP 10.59%

Linux 1.62%

Windows 10 9.00%

Windows 8.1 11.15%

Windows 7 56.11%

your statement:
" Comparing XP to MAC OS or Linux is nonsense... these OS's have always had a small market share, so all they can really do is go is up. And with Valve pushing Linux, this could change a lot. Windows XP has been on a constant decline for a long time and will continue to do so, XP is not going to magically regain market share, it going to continue to lose support until it fads away. How long will it take? Nobody can say, but at the rate Windows 10 is gaining market share, and considering most people update computers on average at-least every 5 years so anyone running XP or Vista is going to be ready to buy a new PC... it will continue.
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How is it nonsense? Do you really believe that MAC OS and Linux are going to somehow dominate the desktop market share all of a sudden which has been primarily dominated by Windows? That's a silly statement. Even at it's peak around 80% XP was already dated beyond its 5 year life span. There is no other OS that has shown so much undying resilience that XP has to this date. And if given the choice are you really that naive to believe if Valve Steam released titles on Linux as well that most would prefer to setup a standalone system with Linux to play it rather than use their Windows OS or in this case we can both agree Windows 10 would most likely the the OS of choice for it.

Obviously there probably would not be a constant surge of XP installations going forward but there hasn't been any new computer or laptops sold with XP preinstalled because Microsoft put a stop to it or else it would have continued hurting Windows 7 sales. However there are people yes they do exist that buy up copies of XP on eBay to install on their modern computer because of how fast and efficient it runs and how the user interface surpasses Windows 7 and 8. And you may not know this but people have found a way to allow XP 32-bit to use up to 64GB of memory now beyond the the imposed 4GB limitation that was software based not hardware and done intentionally by Microsoft so they could market a server based OS.
Post edited December 16, 2015 by TrueDosGamer
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BKGaming:
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If you want to get The Best of Both Worlds (no pun intended) now it would be Windows XP SP1 or XP SP3 patched with 64GB support and Windows 10 64 bit as the secondary OS. Those two operating systems could play almost every Windows 32-bit and 64-bit based game released in the past and future assuming Windows 10 is going to be the next unkillable XP of modern day.

And if you still want to make a bet that Linux will dominate out of nowhere on Steam, you can look at the current desktop usage stats now. I don't see that happening.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Funny thing I decided to add XP's stat just for comparison and I expect most steam games are geared toward DirectX 11.0 and higher and DRM based so you'll need Windows 7 and up:



If we focus on the probably the most popular Linux flavor to install Linux Mint,
Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela 64 bit
0.11%

Windows XP 32 bit
2.16%

[Total Linux OS]
0.98%

[Total MAC OS]
3.64%



[MAC OS]
MacOS 10.11.1 64 bit
1.15%

MacOS 10.10.5 64 bit
1.05%

MacOS 10.9.5 64 bit
0.38%

MacOS 10.11.0 64 bit
0.31%

MacOS 10.10.3 64 bit
0.16%

MacOS 10.10.4 64 bit
0.13%

MacOS 10.10.2 64 bit
0.11%

MacOS 10.7.5 64 bit
0.08%

MacOS 10.8.5 64 bit
0.07%

MacOS 10.10.1 64 bit
0.06%



[LINUX]
Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS 64 bit
0.24%

Ubuntu 15.10 64 bit
0.16%

Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela 64 bit
0.11%

Linux 64 bit
0.09%

Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit
0.07%
Post edited December 16, 2015 by TrueDosGamer