Why don't you ask people which live in Crimea, like me?
I got a job in Crimean ministry last year, my ID card and phone with location in Simferopol as proofs:
http://i.imgur.com/VWnByau.jpg
If you want more proofs, just ask me, find in google any monument, I can do photo with the phrase you want.

I don't think censorship will do. I vote we nuke this thread from orbit... It's the only way to be sure.

I'm more okay with Stalin because, well, he's dead, his rule is over, and unlike Hitler, he didn't leave a to-do list preserved in popular memory -- only the cult of personality itself remains. There's a nuance here which tends to escape people.

The actual period of Stalin's rule was unquestionably good for Russia on the whole (not so much for Eastern Europe). Because the sum is invariant, the more crimes you pin on Stalin and the regime, the better Communism ends up looking as an economic policy (I'm a Commie, so fine by me). And vice versa, people who say Stalin was super awesome ("things only improved because there was a Great Man at the helm") detract from that argument, to the point that there are Stalinist monarchists (who think a permanently depressed medieval agrarian economy makes people closer to God and they'd love to install a dictator to make it happen). But at least, when Stalin is deified as singularly and incomparably awesome, the corollary is that no one else is. Putin in the other hand is alive and well, and he's bleeding Russia dry while securing elite status and wealth for his and his buddies' spawn in the West, and thanks to the interwebs (the chilling effect is in full force but the state is incapable of effective censorship) everyone can observe it 24*7. Stalin worship requires garden-variety ignorance of historical facts, and people are born into ignorance. Putin worship requires an active, willful denial of observable reality, lalala-I-can't-hear-you style.

So, if someone says they'd be willing to commit rapemurder to do Uncle Joe's bidding -- but no one else's, nevar evar, because there will never be anyone greater than Uncle Joe -- I'd be mildly creeped out but nothing more, because it's 2016 now. However, if someone says the same about Putin -- and people do, they even have an officially registered NCO (in Russia, there's no freedom of assembly and you can't register an NCO without the state explicitly approving of its actions and goals) -- it's time to fucking run.

Someone who glorifies Bandera should really keep mouth shut and continue the "don't minding" silently.


Edit: This page has even better image with much more info. Courtesy of Tineye.

Okay, I'll bite.

1. The word for what you're talking about is "ethnicity", which is something that has existed since before the dawn of history. The English words "nationality" and "nationalism" refer to the nation-state, which is a fairly recent (in historical terms) French invention.

2. Most of these 194+ ethniticies are historical residents of the territories which Russia currently comprises. If by "your country failed to achieve" (meaning Klumpen's country, Germany) you mean Germany failed to unite local resident ethnicities into a single incorporated entity, do I have a map to show you.

3. If you mean, instead, that Germany isn't multi-ethnic enough (like I buy for a split-second that you truly think it's a virtue), here's a table.

And here's your crow. Do it with salt and grace.

Thanks for the effort, I was/am too fed up with all the bs in this thread to properly argue about anything in it.
I still remember the map of all the various nations before they got united from school, it's nice to see an English version of it.

This immigration report is from 2013, you can guess how it looks now...

Ooooh. You're so scary. Take a dump, maybe you'll feel better after that. Constipation makes people agitated judging by you. You know nothing about my country and you know absolutely nothing about me. Keep your similar advices to yourself or your buddies.

Hear me about what? About history? Bandera had as much or even less cooperation with Hitler as Stalin did. After some point in time it backfired the same as to the latter schmuck. You judge whole countries and nations by the actions you see fitting for the purpose of branding them, while ignoring everything else. I don't feel any obligation to explain anything to someone, who uses confirmation bias as a valid argument for discussion. Be it Russia or Poland or any other state that at some point in history had a grip on these lands also commited atrocities, but I don't go around the forum sticking them in any remotely related discussion.
And using Bible as a moral compass never did any good to humanity throughout history.

I spill my drink! Yes, being a huge liar is also big part of it. What else am I ignoring? Perhaps this? Confirmation bias? No nazis in Baltic with Nazi BATTALION? Ahaha! Really shut up. Claiming Ukraine is free of nazis is equal to denying Stalin being communist. If you were neighbored by USA instead of Russia, your country would be one big desert.

So, what should I ask you? I totally believe that you work in Simferopol. I don't know exactly why you showed my your passport and location.

Wow, you were part of Nachtigall Battalion, AzureKite? How come you never told us? How old are you?

Hello.

Hi! I see you can paste links. But can you read them, hm?

Maybe he is General Immortus?

That's weird question but yes, I can.