Man, those extra3 people are so nice. They thought that Erdogan may not have understood the first video, so they broadcast it again with Turkish subtitles!

I wouldn't say I have great priorities but good perspective. Firstly; he's been posting stuff like that for quite some time and every time time, everyone gets offended and tells him why he is wrong and how that stuff is racist, etc. What is the use of this? Hasn't anyone ever heard of the phrase ''don't feed the troll''? If he's doing it to get a reaction, you're rewarding him.

Secondly, if he's that far gone, arguing with him is pointless. This is the same reason I don't reply to the other ''nazis'' either. Like that guy who keeps saying ''Arabs'' should be ''culled''.

Thirdly, have you not seen the chans? Have you no idea how common tasteless humor / posts is / are on the internet?

Then at least for once you could have passes on the opportunity to argue with Vainamoinen, because it looked like you're taking the nazi trolls side.

Porn is also common on the internet. Is it ok we start posting it here?

I'm sorry if I'm getting overly woked up about this, but while I'm willing to put up with plenty of trolls and scammers here and keep my composure, stuff like this really crosses some fuckin' lines.

If you like to talk that way I return the compliment. I think you are an asshole too.

And people didn't. They rather only commented on how disrespectful and disgusting it is. This is not really argueing, isn't it? When people say, "don't feed the troll", they hopefully do not mean "give him a stage and let him perform without any objection" but rather mean "do not try to argue but say what you think of it and then ignore him". Also, speaking of using gas chambers should just be a no go almost everywhere, shouldn't it?

It's funny that people here believe in good politicians.

Why is it funny? Shouldn't we believe in them?

Do you rather believe in bad politicians? I don't find them too trustworthy so I am quite skeptic of their promises.

I mean that good (ethical) politicians almost do not exist. Putin? Obama? Erdogan? Merkel? All the same.

I replied because I thought Vaina's post was in a level of stupidness where I could argue against it in a few sentences. A troll yes, but I'm still in doubt whether the shocking stuff is just a ploy to get reactions or if he actually believes in it, considering everything revolving around Hitler is very memefied these days and the simple fact that statements like ''Hitler did nothing wrong'' and ''They should burn in a gas chamber'' are really so beyond the realm of logic to think someone will use them other than to offend people.

Porn would probably push the mods to actually do some modding, so its bad in the long term to link here. I understand some people are quite sick of it. On the other hand its probably still better than having a a forum where you gotta watch for any slight and post in fear.
I see what you mean. A part of the reason no one ever argues the validity of these statements is probably because they don't expect the person making them to change and a lack of interest in writing out such a long as rebuttal such small and simplistic but dumb statements require.

I wouldn't say its a no go, but I understand its a very emotional / charged topic for many people and would encourage proper labeling of such emotion inducing subjects so people may avoid by choice. Afterall, we can't ever say for certain something good will never come out of such a conversation (such as understanding the history of that period or the reactions of citizens back then or an emotionally wrenching movie or game or novel).

Staying civil doesn't mean that you gotta watch for any slight mistake in fear. Most users manage it and I bet it doesn't cost them much.

Don't object against crazy statements and you'll soon see others leaving this place feeling repeled. What good would that do for GOG in the long run?

I guess forum discussions do not work without a minimum of civility and good will of everyone and because this is not always the case I guess a minimum level of moderation is necessary too. GOG in general manages it quite well. Probably they know that many people are somewhat sensitive when it comes to Hitler and gas chambers.

Yes, voluntary civility is best. A lot of what a forum needs in terms of moderation is really decided by posters on it really. Like, we don't need anti-meme rules here for example. Or how some subreddits don't need to tag or censor NSFW stuff. I would count against trolls having enough majority power to chase someone off, because there can always be more good sensible posters to make up for it.

I see, its perfectly okay to come in your house and have an orgy in front of your children with easy women and even get money from state.
This is exactly how one of such groups, who organized an orgy in biological museum, explained it: "that exposure to little children is maximum".

And my point is that such people should be administratively prosecuted, charged with sufficient sum.
In case of pussy riot, they would not pay up so assigning them to do labor for few years was a good thing.

Which link do you mean?

Do you mean good as one who is morally good, or good as in efficient towards dealing with a situation in the county?..If you find one scoring perfect everywhere - he/she is either god, or android.

Oh look, a racist twatshitter makes a tone argument. How charming.

No, seriously. What the fuck wrong with that asshole. I'm too shocked for question marks, like a parent of a pedophile's victim.

Normally, when you read an asshole opinion (there's been quite a lineup of examples in the thread), the question is "are you parodying an asshole and being a bit tone-deaf, or are you an asshole for realz"? Not "are you parodying an asshole, or was Hitler right"? Because, seriously, what the fuck.

And now he's whining about gas chambers being a no-go. Because, you see, it's okay to say an ethnicity is composed of exclusively subhumans. You just shouldn't say in public what you want done to them.

Once again, for comparison:

The hatred is strong around here.
This thread has everything: terminology of the early German 40s, authoritarians of several sides, people justifying genocidal dictators of past AND present times, west/east cold war and not as much Erdogan as the title suggests.

Although many things here are indeed quite abhorrent, I'm still against censoring or shutting down anything out of principle (and because it's often better to know where people actually stand).

Yes, it is sad, but we won't change anything by imagining that such opinions don't exist.

I still hope, that Crosmando is "just" trolling by using the most provocative/tasteless phrases he can come up with. Since stuff like this usually ends discussions one way or the other, it's shitty either way.