Posted December 14, 2016
YaTEdiGo: A) someone affirms cannot play at less than 60fps, not even at 59fps.
B) same person affirms he is having pleasure in playing MARIO64 at 60 fps.
C) experts demonstrate to him, he is actually not playing at 60fps.
D) he found his mistake, and agree.
- whatever you said about someone finally run the game at 60FPS is totally IRRELEVANT with the point explained.
Magmarock: No, points A through D are irrelevant. Just because you know someone who can't see the difference means nothing to the people who can. Including those who managed to hack the game past it's 30 fps cap of which you said was impossible. B) same person affirms he is having pleasure in playing MARIO64 at 60 fps.
C) experts demonstrate to him, he is actually not playing at 60fps.
D) he found his mistake, and agree.
- whatever you said about someone finally run the game at 60FPS is totally IRRELEVANT with the point explained.
YaTEdiGo: A) Action and 3D games are better at 60fps
B) Even action and 3D games aren´t unplayable at 30FPS
C) People that like games more than technical issues know perfectly that games are playable at 30fps, and more than enjoyable.
D) Mario64 when it was released was a jewel. Add hundreds of games to the list, if not thousands.
E) Get mature, games are great as long as they have all their features equilibrated.
Magmarock: A, yes B) Even action and 3D games aren´t unplayable at 30FPS
C) People that like games more than technical issues know perfectly that games are playable at 30fps, and more than enjoyable.
D) Mario64 when it was released was a jewel. Add hundreds of games to the list, if not thousands.
E) Get mature, games are great as long as they have all their features equilibrated.
B, sometimes
C, this is an oxymoron, games and technology are symbiotic.
D, key word is when, I don't think it's aged well.
E, that including framerate right?
YaTEdiGo: Your words about sickness, death, diseases, etc. make you a very funny person. So yeah, you are one of those Zealots, easy to see since from the very beginning I said, welcome, to your list, but I said my absolutely acknowledge opinion about this issue, as a competitive player, industry professional, multi platform gamer, with more than 30 years of gaming behind me.
Magmarock: I don't think you understand. The critics of the framerate police are the ones wishing death and disease thus being the most vile; while advocates at worst are being nit picky, and you have inadvertently agreed with this. In your previous posts the worst thing you cited was that people complained about technical things, thus straightening my point. You yourself have also resorted to using ad hominems against me. Case and point calling me a Zealot, because I don't agree with you. While also demonstrating a muddled understanding of I'm trying to do.
A) yes
B) most part of the times
C) Sure, thats why you are such a gamer that you are forgetting retro games, indie games, old consoles, 2D point and click adventures, single player, isometric slow paced 3D RPGs and a long etc. of game genres and forms of digital entertainment that are absolutely far from need 60fps all the time.
D) Irrelevant. We still have games released now at 30Fps that are jewels.
E) Sure, among dozens of other features much more important than frame-rate.
Seriously if you want to have serious people listening you, stop talking about disease and death threats vs. the frame-rate police, it makes me have facepalms here... you made yourself a Zealot just with these uberstupid argument man... just because we reasonable not agree with your crusade, but we AGREE with your list, and with the relative importance of frame-rate. I repeat, relative, you need to claim that critics of your crusade want you dead or sick, MEGALOL.
Who is the Zealot?
SirPrimalform: And yet films are still commonly made at 24fps, crazy right? By the way, there's a difference between refresh rate and frame rate.
Magmarock: Why the hell are we talking about films this is a games focused thread. SirPrimalform: Right, but there's a difference between "can be better" and "unacceptable". Yes 60fps is better than 30fps, but no there is nothing wrong with 30fps.
Magmarock: Yes there is. It is absolutely unacceptable in this day and age for a game to be released with a locked framerate. I ask of you to present one good reason why this is. Things like physics and coding don't count because that's just plain bad coding. There's no advantage what so ever to using a forced 30fps cap and no studio should do it. EVER! Post edited December 14, 2016 by YaTEdiGo