Hey hey hey hey HEY! How come I don't get praised or criticized? How am I supposed to improve as a player when I get no feedback? I plan on getting that MVP award eventually. :P

Let's see:

✓ Crucial Town power role
✓ First player lynched (again, again again)
✓ Every read was incorrect
✓ Cast the crucial, game-ending perma-vote against the last Town player, single-handedly losing the game for his team


...


All in a day's work, I'd say!

Ha! I was expecting you to say that. :P

To be fair, it's still a mystery to me why flub didn't just hammer HSL with the fourth vote anyway. Hijack's play should've been irrelevant.

Perhaps he didn't want to lurk a gift horse in the mouth.

I am still sore about that one. Sure, I was obvi-scum by the end of the Day, but I just wanted to use my busdriver power at least once... :(

As for good plays, I think trentonlf did a good job convincing scum that he was the Exorcist. I was convinced Day 3 that he was the last power role, so he certainly duped me. ;)

feelz

I really, really, really don't mean to condescend, be obnoxious, or abrasive. I don't think I know everything best and that others would be lost without me. I don't know why I come off that way sooo much, I really don't. I think I'm misunderstood, and would very much appreciate that when someone feels like I am being condescending, obnoxious, abrasive, or whatever else, they please tell me they are finding me so so we can work it out, because I really never mean to be.

There have been a few times where I have picked up on the feeling that others are thinking that is how I am, and is such a silly idea to me, that I have joked about it and "played into" it a little because I found it silly that people really thought I was being arrogant, and so I thought the best way to "remove" that was to "overplay" it in a joking way to kind of be like "I'm really not being that way, no one would be this way, it's ridiculous." I think that isn't understood it perpetuates the idea that I'm actually like that more? I'm not sure.

Then there was yogsloth's game where I was intentionally RPing a bit of a know-it-all, and think maybe people didn't realize I was RPing? I touted my exceptional logic (I was a logistics professor) and ended the game with something like "I know I'm smarter than all of you!", but, I wasn't serious. At all. And again, then there were times where I joked about it, and recognized that it came off as serious and so tried to joke about it over-board style to show that I wasn't serious.

(when I talk about "mad skillz" and tout my abilities, it's all tongue-in-cheek, folks! I intend it as sarcastic self-disparaging comments!)

I do listen to others (maybe I just don't show that I do enough?), I don't mean to demand that others listen to me more than I listen to them (it is a game of each listening to each other, after all, I really enjoy hearing other people's views, maybe I'll work on expressing that better too), and I never mean to mock and dismiss what others say. Sure, I will make a counter-argument as to why I think they're wrong. That's what we're supposed to do.

There are many many times when people disagree with me and I have no beef with their disagreements, I don't know why it seems like I do it ALL of the time. I seriously will try to cut down on the repetitive WOTs, simply make my case, and then let it drop.

There were multiple times in this game where I tried to be playful and keep things light, and no one seemed to want any of it.

Vitek, you say you found that town trent read of mine offensive. I really think you just don't understand my sarcasm and took it all wrong and that just makes me think that you completely understand me almost all of the time because you aren't picking up that I'm joking or trying to be light-hearted. I thought that post would lighten everything, be amusing, and get my point across in a playful and friendly-yet-cutting way. I mean, that's why it was the way it was, otherwise I thought it would have come off super dickish and so I really exaggerated it all. That's why I signed it the way I did. I...just...again, if I ever say anything anyone finds offensive, please just talk to me about it. I really don't mean to be a dick! I'm a nice guy, I swear! heh.

Nahnahnahnahnah! People being nahnahnahnahnah! And I'm just sitting here like: No. Nahnahnahnahnah you!

*notes new post restriction idea*

The best thing to do is to read back what you write as if it was written by another person about you. Honestly ask yourself how you would react if the tables were turned. That is the best advice I can give you, or anyone else, on how not to be "a dick".

Before you quickly respond that you, of course, would take anything you wrote well, if directed at you, do read back some of your reactions in this game, and previous games, to other players when they have questioned your statements or actions.

edit:
And, for crying out loud. Just call yourself a dingleberry douche dong a couple times. I mean, you said you would, so you might as well man up. ;)

I went back multiple times during the game to read things after people started to respond to me aversely so much.

I barely said much of anything for quite a number of pages, if anything I was simply a little terse for no-lynch getting squashed so quickly by trent right after he said maybe it was viable (he later amended that he meant later in the game, but at first he just said it flat out), I also meant to unvote my no-lynch sooner than I did, and I also find it a little silly/dramatic that people respond to the proposition or voting for no-lynch SO drastically. If you don't want no-lynch to happen, fine, but don't treat it every time 1 single person proposes the idea that it is SO obviously anti-town and a bad idea. Not everyone always thinks that, that should be obvious, just like not everyone thinks lurking is offensively anti-town (which I find to actually be way more offensively anti-town than the idea of no lynch. No lynch is an option, after all.)

Then I kept getting badgered and poked and so I responded with some terseness, defending myself, poking back a bit, but I didn't really mean it to come off so harshly. To me, others were being harsher to me than I to them, and I simply use that stuff as a way to gauge scummy-ness and try to make it clear that I'm not trying to be rude. I will try to do better, for sure. I really don't want to come off as a dick/am not one!

Of course there are the couple posts to a4plz, but I again, I specifically say those are only if she is not scum. She was scum. bad town for not lynching her, that is all. yeah okay, mod could have prodded a bit more, but, still, the non-contribution lurking is something town can take into their own hands.

more to come later probably (gone rest of night, all tomorrow, though)!

OH! I'm a dingleberry douche dong , a dingleberry doucheee-dong., a dingleberry doodoo doodeedong! and I still can't find that I-D 10-T form. I stupid.

I simply cannot express how proud I am to have passed "I am a dingleberry douche dong" into GOG mafia lore.

First of all, you are wrong.

You joined this community of forum mafia players. We did not join you. If you will simply never see something a certain way, that is your prerogative. However, you have no right or authority to dictate whether something is welcome here or not. Your mandate calling something a valid playstyle is your opinion. Do not think you will foist it upon this community. If you don't like something, you should feel free to state such. But don't think you will come in here and decide whether a player will play a certain way or not.

If players are refusing to play due to an atmosphere of intolerance or malice, be assured we will deal with it.

If you cannot tolerate such things, feel free to move/play somewhere else. Voting or lynching a player due to lurking is also your choice. But do not attempt to create an hostile environment for players with different styles than yours.

"Play as differently as you want to" should be what you practice, not just what you preach.

I think I've mentioned most of my suggestions either via PM or in the dead thread. I really like the setup thus far (except for the near total lack of "hard" data for town), and it could be quite something with some polish.

As things stand, there is absolutely no reason to 75% the role block. You'd lose 25% with Dawn and be banished. I actually checked on this with Agent one Night, while weighing my action choices. Either 50% to be present the next Day, or else 100% to be certain it worked.

Here's what you do: You get yourself killed the very first night, and then you just keep posting in the game thread, lynching townie after townie anyway! THAT'S the MVP way to play!

Come to think of it, was I pretty much key in most of the lynches (or lack thereof)? You people probably shouldn't trust my reads quite so much. Facts I can do, people not so much.