I'm here.

Lift did you really Iso yourself?

UGH.

Lift's Iso-ing himself. Lift's gentleman's agreement that I get to mock him if he lynches me. It's so compelling.

In the Secret Hitler game where me and lifthrasil conflicted, he was much less humble, or maybe I was just MUCH more nuts.


I say I think the scum is Lifthrasil and blotunga; lift votes me but says he'd prefer to lynch blotunga, dedo says he'd like to lynch blotunga before me but doesn't vote...

This feels like a trap...


Two minutes till I can post this -

Lift, why is my "making GameRager think he's lynched" vote scummy? Is it more or less scummy than 'not turning up to End-Of-Day'?

Dedo - when I said "I love Pooka&Lift" idea I didn't mean I think it's likely, I meant I think it's funny. It's me being confusing again, sorrry.

I thought Lift was still here and we were going to discuss it.

vote blotunga

I could also go Pooka!

:c

Are you SURE it's not lift?

If it's not lift I think it's got to be RWarehall and Pooka or RWarehall and blotunga.

I don't like it being RWarehall...

but Lifthrasil's really convincing...

Would lift lie about Iso-ing himself? Would scum ever Iso themself? Would anybody? I can't imagine a much more horrible thing to do to yourself.

Could Lift just be saying what I want to hear?

I really don't want to unvote Lift and Lift to be mafia. I hate that.

I'm not sure of anything.

Anyone would like about anything (besides RL stuff).

This is going to sound a bit cynical but I mostly put Joe in front of Lift/RW as I know that even if he flips Town we won't be losing a power role :/

I'm sorry, love.

How many games have you played with blotunga?

Did you know dedo had voted blotunga when you wrote this?



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whyyyyyy is ten minutes so loooooongggggg?????


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Lift - if we lunch blotunga, and he flips town, where do we stand? Who gets to mock who?

Ack. Busy in general and the game's most interesting now!

So about that clarification.

It depended on Agent's role. Maybe he was yet another one-shot who used his role. But perhaps I should put my argument another way:
- Agent has said he has info
- he didn't come out with that info at the time
- scum, wanting people to have less info in general, would want to kill him to deny that info he has.

By coming out, he tells us what's going on (and after his reveal I think a good deal of us have put him on the townlist even after generally moderate to low opinions). The circle of potential scum, if we assume he is Town and didn't craft the most convincing fake claim ever, has shrunk.

Besides, unlike myself or RW, he softclaimed, outright claimed he got a role, and was even willing to put it out. If he had said "no, you won't get any sort of claim" I would have treated it just like I did when RW said the same and stopped thinking about it. So I don't think my refusal to claim has much to do with telling a very willing Agent to claim.

Agent? You mean RFG?

Anyways, here I feel the need to clarify. I wasn't set on finding RFG scummy just cause, but I found the day starting off with accusations of softclaims to be off, or came from ill intent, and it didn't help matters that they revoled around you and me, the hot topics of Day 1. RFG was the prime example of this: came off saying we softclaimed and kept painting it that it was a scummy thing to do. When told I never softclaimed, he quickly switched tune and was basically, "oh I see, I'm sorry!" and that too felt off. Like he was caught and had to backpedal before he put himself into a deeper pit. Which is why I thought he made a good choice for my vote.

If so, that would mean nobody is even aware they're being guarded, which would mean they don't know about your presence. Hmm...at this point though, people would feel that "something is watching them" though.

Carr and Dedo are high up, but Blotunga is on the bottom list. I'm actually willing to go between either you or blotunga.

I don't know, I don't find this idea likely. It's much more likely he'd go after a low info target, then push a "Pooka is scum" narrative the next day to get me lynched.


I'm sticking with my Joe vote. If blotunga gains traction, I'm willing to hop on his wagon. I'm not OK with any other wagon.

Yes. I know it sounds kind of dirty. But I wanted to see what you see, just in case you are Town.

Allright. A decision. I'll follow you on that, as announced. Let's hope we get a lynch.

unvote Joe
vote blotunga

:C

huh. ahuh... ahuh...

What's it called when you have the appearance of choice, but really you're only being offered one option?

We're going in blotunga's direction? Might as well.

Vote blotunga.

Yes. I do. Sorry. That happens if I write walls of text under time pressure...


Clarification: my 'I follow you' wasn't meant as statement that I follow dedo no matter what. I follow his decision not to vote Joe but to vote blotunga. As I said before, both are valid targets to me.

You here? Are you voting blotunga or what?

unvote Lifthrasil

It sucks, really. No matter how I look at it there isn't a real good candidate.

bump