I'm here.

Lift did you really Iso yourself?

I thought Lift was still here and we were going to discuss it.

vote blotunga

I could also go Pooka!

We are getting toward deadline.
Lift - I still have doubts.
Blotunga - Maybe? What gives me pause is he's typically a lynch candidate for the same reasons he is now.
Joe - While his logic has issues, I'm not sure that makes him scummy. But his strongest defense is I don't think it as likely he'd paint such a target on himself trying to kill me. It's not concrete, would vote if I have to.
Pooka - I thought he came off early as overzealous, not scum. He hasn't piqued my interest. While he might be playing a good scum game, he sure attracted a lot of attention day 1 for that.
Agent - I don't like his posts or the lack of depth of his analysis, or even the mechanical part of the claim, but what he's breadcrumbed is hard to deny. His hinted character is hard to deny without a counterclaim.
Dedo - The only scenario I can see him as scum is a 2 Kitsune setup where his partner was blocked somewhere else. Since Agent would presumably be dead if successful and there is no information about anything else...

There isn't that much difference from Lift to Joe. I'd prefer my vote to be in there. Pooka to avoid a no-lynch. I don't think I'd have said that yesterday, but my Towniest read might see something I'm missing. While some of the rest of you might make some good points, I do have to wonder about your motivations...

:c

Are you SURE it's not lift?

If it's not lift I think it's got to be RWarehall and Pooka or RWarehall and blotunga.

I don't like it being RWarehall...

but Lifthrasil's really convincing...

Would lift lie about Iso-ing himself? Would scum ever Iso themself? Would anybody? I can't imagine a much more horrible thing to do to yourself.

Could Lift just be saying what I want to hear?

I really don't want to unvote Lift and Lift to be mafia. I hate that.

I'm not sure of anything.

Anyone would like about anything (besides RL stuff).

This is going to sound a bit cynical but I mostly put Joe in front of Lift/RW as I know that even if he flips Town we won't be losing a power role :/

I'm sorry, love.

How many games have you played with blotunga?

Did you know dedo had voted blotunga when you wrote this?



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whyyyyyy is ten minutes so loooooongggggg?????


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Lift - if we lunch blotunga, and he flips town, where do we stand? Who gets to mock who?

Ack. Busy in general and the game's most interesting now!

So about that clarification.

It depended on Agent's role. Maybe he was yet another one-shot who used his role. But perhaps I should put my argument another way:
- Agent has said he has info
- he didn't come out with that info at the time
- scum, wanting people to have less info in general, would want to kill him to deny that info he has.

By coming out, he tells us what's going on (and after his reveal I think a good deal of us have put him on the townlist even after generally moderate to low opinions). The circle of potential scum, if we assume he is Town and didn't craft the most convincing fake claim ever, has shrunk.

Besides, unlike myself or RW, he softclaimed, outright claimed he got a role, and was even willing to put it out. If he had said "no, you won't get any sort of claim" I would have treated it just like I did when RW said the same and stopped thinking about it. So I don't think my refusal to claim has much to do with telling a very willing Agent to claim.

Agent? You mean RFG?

Anyways, here I feel the need to clarify. I wasn't set on finding RFG scummy just cause, but I found the day starting off with accusations of softclaims to be off, or came from ill intent, and it didn't help matters that they revoled around you and me, the hot topics of Day 1. RFG was the prime example of this: came off saying we softclaimed and kept painting it that it was a scummy thing to do. When told I never softclaimed, he quickly switched tune and was basically, "oh I see, I'm sorry!" and that too felt off. Like he was caught and had to backpedal before he put himself into a deeper pit. Which is why I thought he made a good choice for my vote.

If so, that would mean nobody is even aware they're being guarded, which would mean they don't know about your presence. Hmm...at this point though, people would feel that "something is watching them" though.

Carr and Dedo are high up, but Blotunga is on the bottom list. I'm actually willing to go between either you or blotunga.

I don't know, I don't find this idea likely. It's much more likely he'd go after a low info target, then push a "Pooka is scum" narrative the next day to get me lynched.


I'm sticking with my Joe vote. If blotunga gains traction, I'm willing to hop on his wagon. I'm not OK with any other wagon.

Yes. I know it sounds kind of dirty. But I wanted to see what you see, just in case you are Town.

Allright. A decision. I'll follow you on that, as announced. Let's hope we get a lynch.

unvote Joe
vote blotunga

:C

huh. ahuh... ahuh...

What's it called when you have the appearance of choice, but really you're only being offered one option?

We're going in blotunga's direction? Might as well.

Vote blotunga.

Yes. I do. Sorry. That happens if I write walls of text under time pressure...


Clarification: my 'I follow you' wasn't meant as statement that I follow dedo no matter what. I follow his decision not to vote Joe but to vote blotunga. As I said before, both are valid targets to me.

You here? Are you voting blotunga or what?

unvote Lifthrasil

It sucks, really. No matter how I look at it there isn't a real good candidate.

bump