Posted May 18, 2019
yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
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JoeSapphire
Consultant Liar
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Posted May 18, 2019
in the beginning of the last post I messed up two links:
flubbucket saying he'd vote to lunch Yogsloth:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_58_disney_to_the_rescue/post194
Blotunga saying he'd vote to lunch Yogsloth:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_58_disney_to_the_rescue/post200
Hm? What did I say?
Does micro honestly not realise that A - proving that micro is vanilla doesn't prove that micro is town (this has come up already), and B - it is very possible for rolecop to be scum (why wouldn't it be?).
I'm swinging on this. On the one hand it looks like micro is somewhat-overplaying-his-lack-of-knowledge, and on the other hand I keep thinking "would he do this now if he weren't genuine?" Perhaps he was handling the pressure rather less well than I thought.
flubbucket saying he'd vote to lunch Yogsloth:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_58_disney_to_the_rescue/post194
Blotunga saying he'd vote to lunch Yogsloth:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_58_disney_to_the_rescue/post200
Hm? What did I say?
Microfish_1: I will say one more thing--I am town, vanilla. I bid for Rolecop, and lost. If the rolecop is Town, I invite them to investigate me overnight and prove my innocence.
If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible, but...at least it prevents scum from getting a useful-to-scum role?
Oh my. If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible, but...at least it prevents scum from getting a useful-to-scum role?
Does micro honestly not realise that A - proving that micro is vanilla doesn't prove that micro is town (this has come up already), and B - it is very possible for rolecop to be scum (why wouldn't it be?).
I'm swinging on this. On the one hand it looks like micro is somewhat-overplaying-his-lack-of-knowledge, and on the other hand I keep thinking "would he do this now if he weren't genuine?" Perhaps he was handling the pressure rather less well than I thought.
trentonlf
Easily amused
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Posted May 18, 2019
Prettiest Princess Award:
One votes for:
JoeSapphire (flubbucket)
Korotan ( yogsloth)
Two votes for:
Microfish (blotunga, bookwyrm)
blotunga (ZFR, Microfish)
Closest to winning the contest with 2 votes is Microfish & blotunga, it takes 5 votes to win the contest.
Not voting: JoeSapphire, Korotan, dedoporno
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One votes for:
JoeSapphire (flubbucket)
Korotan ( yogsloth)
Two votes for:
Microfish (blotunga, bookwyrm)
blotunga (ZFR, Microfish)
Closest to winning the contest with 2 votes is Microfish & blotunga, it takes 5 votes to win the contest.
Not voting: JoeSapphire, Korotan, dedoporno
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ZFR
I love gold!
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Posted May 18, 2019
Microfish_1: If the rolecop is Town, I invite them to investigate me overnight and prove my innocence.
First of all, this statement screams LAMIST so loud I think it woke my neighbours. (I remember the only time I ever shouted "Investigate me!" was in the first SH game where I was scum). Second, this is wrong on so many levels.
*If* rolecop is town, you don't want him investigating you to "prove your innocence". You want him catching a Godfather. Or a strongman.
Second, and you should know it since mafiascum wiki mentions it "Role Cops are actually a somewhat popular Mafia role".
Your "If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible." is trying to show us that you think rolecoop mafiosos are "not possible" but are rather a town role? lol
Third, and you should really really know it, a rolecop won't confirm your side, just your role.
Methinks you're a vanilla scum.
I'm really tempted to vote you now.
Incidentally, since you claimed. Name, please.
Korotan
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Posted May 18, 2019
Microfish_1: This, I think. And I know I'm doing worse than last game, and have hurt my own cause.
I'm not as brilliant of a player as I tried to be, and it horribly backfired, but Pooka died, and for naught as of yet.
I could think that it was just Bookwyrm telling me my play is bad because Book was scum, but with Blot, Book, ZFR, Koro etc saying my play is bad, I have to face that it is.
I will say one more thing--I am town, vanilla. I bid for Rolecop, and lost. If the rolecop is Town, I invite them to investigate me overnight and prove my innocence.
If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible, but...at least it prevents scum from getting a useful-to-scum role?
Wow. This is is exactly like when the first scum whas about to be revealed in the last game. I'm not as brilliant of a player as I tried to be, and it horribly backfired, but Pooka died, and for naught as of yet.
I could think that it was just Bookwyrm telling me my play is bad because Book was scum, but with Blot, Book, ZFR, Koro etc saying my play is bad, I have to face that it is.
I will say one more thing--I am town, vanilla. I bid for Rolecop, and lost. If the rolecop is Town, I invite them to investigate me overnight and prove my innocence.
If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible, but...at least it prevents scum from getting a useful-to-scum role?
Sorry but now only there is one thing to bring peace to our minds.
VOTE Microfish
yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
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Posted May 18, 2019
I think microfish is pretty tonally pure.
The whole thing about "investigate me as vanilla to prove I'm Town" is what on MU they call a "derpclear". I buy it.
Not voting there.
The whole thing about "investigate me as vanilla to prove I'm Town" is what on MU they call a "derpclear". I buy it.
Not voting there.
JoeSapphire
Consultant Liar
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Posted May 18, 2019
yogsloth: I think microfish is pretty tonally pure.
The whole thing about "investigate me as vanilla to prove I'm Town" is what on MU they call a "derpclear". I buy it.
Not voting there.
hm. I kinda feel the same way, but then again... The whole thing about "investigate me as vanilla to prove I'm Town" is what on MU they call a "derpclear". I buy it.
Not voting there.
huh.
You seem convinced. How convinced are you?
At MU what does a derpclear generally signifiy?
also I never got a response to my questions before - I should have put your name in bold:
Yogsloth - are you genuinely convinced that flubbucket is town?
Do you think I'm wrong to have concerns about the way your lynch wagon turned out yesterday?
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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From Micronesia
Posted May 18, 2019
JoeSapphire: .........
The flub dramatically announces "I SAW YOU" (I approve of his flair)
.........
The whole of this post consists of me seeing yogsloth's "light" on when he was under pressure. The flub dramatically announces "I SAW YOU" (I approve of his flair)
.........
I had just woke up and failed to refresh the game, so I didn't see the whole other page of posts from him and others.
I am dumb.
blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
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Posted May 18, 2019
I sleep a bit and now I have 2 suspects.
@joe: I meant that when you said that Microfish's game is weaker than before.
@Microfish: since you claimed, you might aswell give us a name and the text of your investigation last night.
@joe: I meant that when you said that Microfish's game is weaker than before.
@Microfish: since you claimed, you might aswell give us a name and the text of your investigation last night.
Microfish_1
I'm not a duck
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Posted May 18, 2019
ZFR: First of all, this statement screams LAMIST so loud I think it woke my neighbours. (I remember the only time I ever shouted "Investigate me!" was in the first SH game where I was scum).
Second, this is wrong on so many levels.
*If* rolecop is town, you don't want him investigating you to "prove your innocence". You want him catching a Godfather. Or a strongman.
Second, and you should know it since mafiascum wiki mentions it "Role Cops are actually a somewhat popular Mafia role".
Your "If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible." is trying to show us that you think rolecoop mafiosos are "not possible" but are rather a town role? lol
Third, and you should really really know it, a rolecop won't confirm your side, just your role.
Methinks you're a vanilla scum.
I'm really tempted to vote you now.
Incidentally, since you claimed. Name, please.
I've been rushed and messing up. I have been messing up on so many levels. Second, this is wrong on so many levels.
*If* rolecop is town, you don't want him investigating you to "prove your innocence". You want him catching a Godfather. Or a strongman.
Second, and you should know it since mafiascum wiki mentions it "Role Cops are actually a somewhat popular Mafia role".
Your "If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible." is trying to show us that you think rolecoop mafiosos are "not possible" but are rather a town role? lol
Third, and you should really really know it, a rolecop won't confirm your side, just your role.
Methinks you're a vanilla scum.
I'm really tempted to vote you now.
Incidentally, since you claimed. Name, please.
I forgot when bidding for this game and until reading this that rolecop ("Rolecop - Learn someone's role.") didn't reveal side/alignment; that "role" doesn't equate to "side," as I had been thinking. Thank you for the reminder. I did not think that rolecop could be scum; more on that later.
THB, I haven't paid much attention to the mafia wiki, as when i went there for the flash file, it downloaded a .swf slideshow that wouldn't play, had no sound, and looked nothing like the interactive movie-thing that others discovered.
Read my statement from the perspective (which I had) of "rolecop finds alignment", and you will eminently see why I though it could not be a scum role. In case anyone reading this didn't/doesn't get my thinking, I was thinking:
"Rolecop shows alignment. A role which shows alignment is useless for scum; they would already know who the scum are, and all non-scum are the enemies of the scum. Therefore, Rolecop is Town-only, they could investigate me and prove my innocence."
-------
My death will do town no good, as I have played so badly that they will gain no leads. I feel ashamed, and apologize to my town teammates, you individually (and the mafia collectively) know who you are.
Since I have played so badly, i'm kinda suspicious of those who haven't criticized my play, namely Yogsloth.
I will be happy to reveal my name, etc, have asked trent if I might quote him verbatim, and am waiting on a response.
blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
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Microfish_1
I'm not a duck
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Posted May 18, 2019
blotunga: I sleep a bit and now I have 2 suspects.
@joe: I meant that when you said that Microfish's game is weaker than before.
@Microfish: since you claimed, you might aswell give us a name and the text of your investigation last night.
Blotunga, as you noticed, your statement is off. You messed up as I did, namely not reading but just recalling without re-checking. @joe: I meant that when you said that Microfish's game is weaker than before.
@Microfish: since you claimed, you might aswell give us a name and the text of your investigation last night.
I am vanilla, I did not investigate anyone last night (obviously), and as soon as Trent okays it I will quote my PM verbatim.
The fact that you suspected me but ask for "the text of your investigation last night" (after reading that I am vanilla), was an error on your part, and to my mind confirms that you are, in fact, scum.
Edit: I just saw your post, and yeah. I'm not claiming a power role; there would be 0 point to doing so (that I can see). I bid and lost, and assumed (again, not rereading, just recalling faultily) my preferred role was town-only. I honorably own up to the fact that I am VT, it would be stupid for me to claim any PR (which could be easily countered).
I think it obvious that with 17 PRs spread among 10 players, most everyone has a PR, and as a VT (I wonder if I'm the only one?), not only is it useless for me to false-claim a PR, that action would insta-damn me in the eyes of the real one.
I'm wondering if Koro is scum this time; he did a good job as town last time, maybe Trent moved him to scum or 3rd-party for this round.
If we have 2 scum, i suspect we have a 3rd-party, if 3 scum, than no 3rd party. Such is my hunch; you'll put weight behind my claim when I am lynched or NK'd, and confirmed to be town.
Based on my PM, I strongly suspect that we in fact do have a 3rd-party, but I might simply be unfamiliar with Trent's style of writing.
blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
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Posted May 18, 2019
@Micro: how does me reading superficially and correcting myself more scum? What did trent write that made you think there are more than 2 factions? I'm sure I'd recognize it if you'd quote it.
ZFR
I love gold!
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From Ireland
Posted May 18, 2019
blotunga: Now I'm also uneasy about Korotan's theoretical neutral role. Why would you even try to claim something like that? Korotan, care to explain please?
My, my.... funny how prehistoric posts suddenly appear eons later. I spent a good portion of D1 on Korotan, partially because of his "I could be neutral" comment, and no one bothered with it. Now all of a sudden yogsloth jumps at it, and immediately next as if on cue, blotunga.
blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
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Posted May 18, 2019
blotunga: Now I'm also uneasy about Korotan's theoretical neutral role. Why would you even try to claim something like that? Korotan, care to explain please?
ZFR: My, my.... funny how prehistoric posts suddenly appear eons later. I spent a good portion of D1 on Korotan, partially because of his "I could be neutral" comment, and no one bothered with it. Now all of a sudden yogsloth jumps at it, and immediately next as if on cue, blotunga.