Lost interest in Bookwyrm.

Kinda flailing.

We didn't have a lynch, so no wagons to analyze. No night actions to report. Watchya gonna do?

in the beginning of the last post I messed up two links:

flubbucket saying he'd vote to lunch Yogsloth:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_58_disney_to_the_rescue/post194

Blotunga saying he'd vote to lunch Yogsloth:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_58_disney_to_the_rescue/post200


Hm? What did I say?


Oh my.
Does micro honestly not realise that A - proving that micro is vanilla doesn't prove that micro is town (this has come up already), and B - it is very possible for rolecop to be scum (why wouldn't it be?).

I'm swinging on this. On the one hand it looks like micro is somewhat-overplaying-his-lack-of-knowledge, and on the other hand I keep thinking "would he do this now if he weren't genuine?" Perhaps he was handling the pressure rather less well than I thought.

Prettiest Princess Award:

One votes for:
JoeSapphire (flubbucket)
Korotan ( yogsloth)

Two votes for:
Microfish (blotunga, bookwyrm)
blotunga (ZFR, Microfish)

Closest to winning the contest with 2 votes is Microfish & blotunga, it takes 5 votes to win the contest.

Not voting: JoeSapphire, Korotan, dedoporno

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First of all, this statement screams LAMIST so loud I think it woke my neighbours. (I remember the only time I ever shouted "Investigate me!" was in the first SH game where I was scum).

Second, this is wrong on so many levels.

*If* rolecop is town, you don't want him investigating you to "prove your innocence". You want him catching a Godfather. Or a strongman.

Second, and you should know it since mafiascum wiki mentions it "Role Cops are actually a somewhat popular Mafia role".
Your "If the Rolecop is scum, yikes. I don't know if such a thing is possible." is trying to show us that you think rolecoop mafiosos are "not possible" but are rather a town role? lol

Third, and you should really really know it, a rolecop won't confirm your side, just your role.

Methinks you're a vanilla scum.

I'm really tempted to vote you now.

Incidentally, since you claimed. Name, please.

Wow. This is is exactly like when the first scum whas about to be revealed in the last game.
Sorry but now only there is one thing to bring peace to our minds.
VOTE Microfish

I think microfish is pretty tonally pure.

The whole thing about "investigate me as vanilla to prove I'm Town" is what on MU they call a "derpclear". I buy it.

Not voting there.

hm. I kinda feel the same way, but then again...
huh.

You seem convinced. How convinced are you?


At MU what does a derpclear generally signifiy?


also I never got a response to my questions before - I should have put your name in bold:

Yogsloth - are you genuinely convinced that flubbucket is town?
Do you think I'm wrong to have concerns about the way your lynch wagon turned out yesterday?

The whole of this post consists of me seeing yogsloth's "light" on when he was under pressure.

I had just woke up and failed to refresh the game, so I didn't see the whole other page of posts from him and others.

I am dumb.

I've been rushed and messing up. I have been messing up on so many levels.

I forgot when bidding for this game and until reading this that rolecop ("Rolecop - Learn someone's role.") didn't reveal side/alignment; that "role" doesn't equate to "side," as I had been thinking. Thank you for the reminder. I did not think that rolecop could be scum; more on that later.

THB, I haven't paid much attention to the mafia wiki, as when i went there for the flash file, it downloaded a .swf slideshow that wouldn't play, had no sound, and looked nothing like the interactive movie-thing that others discovered.

Read my statement from the perspective (which I had) of "rolecop finds alignment", and you will eminently see why I though it could not be a scum role. In case anyone reading this didn't/doesn't get my thinking, I was thinking:

"Rolecop shows alignment. A role which shows alignment is useless for scum; they would already know who the scum are, and all non-scum are the enemies of the scum. Therefore, Rolecop is Town-only, they could investigate me and prove my innocence."

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My death will do town no good, as I have played so badly that they will gain no leads. I feel ashamed, and apologize to my town teammates, you individually (and the mafia collectively) know who you are.

Since I have played so badly, i'm kinda suspicious of those who haven't criticized my play, namely Yogsloth.

I will be happy to reveal my name, etc, have asked trent if I might quote him verbatim, and am waiting on a response.

@Micro: Oh I'm an idiot and read only diagonally. You just bid for rolecop (or so you claim).

I'm almost willing to believe you, though you still blundered a lot. If I were scum I would've claimed an actual power role, but it might be risky if someone else can counter, so I still think you might be scum.

Now I'm also uneasy about Korotan's theoretical neutral role. Why would you even try to claim something like that? Korotan, care to explain please? Otoh claiming a neutral role is risky and I don't think people would coach you to do that. Would they? Is your goal to be lynched?

Blotunga, as you noticed, your statement is off. You messed up as I did, namely not reading but just recalling without re-checking.

I am vanilla, I did not investigate anyone last night (obviously), and as soon as Trent okays it I will quote my PM verbatim.

The fact that you suspected me but ask for "the text of your investigation last night" (after reading that I am vanilla), was an error on your part, and to my mind confirms that you are, in fact, scum.

Edit: I just saw your post, and yeah. I'm not claiming a power role; there would be 0 point to doing so (that I can see). I bid and lost, and assumed (again, not rereading, just recalling faultily) my preferred role was town-only. I honorably own up to the fact that I am VT, it would be stupid for me to claim any PR (which could be easily countered).

I think it obvious that with 17 PRs spread among 10 players, most everyone has a PR, and as a VT (I wonder if I'm the only one?), not only is it useless for me to false-claim a PR, that action would insta-damn me in the eyes of the real one.

I'm wondering if Koro is scum this time; he did a good job as town last time, maybe Trent moved him to scum or 3rd-party for this round.

If we have 2 scum, i suspect we have a 3rd-party, if 3 scum, than no 3rd party. Such is my hunch; you'll put weight behind my claim when I am lynched or NK'd, and confirmed to be town.

Based on my PM, I strongly suspect that we in fact do have a 3rd-party, but I might simply be unfamiliar with Trent's style of writing.

@Micro: how does me reading superficially and correcting myself more scum? What did trent write that made you think there are more than 2 factions? I'm sure I'd recognize it if you'd quote it.

My, my.... funny how prehistoric posts suddenly appear eons later. I spent a good portion of D1 on Korotan, partially because of his "I could be neutral" comment, and no one bothered with it.
Now all of a sudden yogsloth jumps at it, and immediately next as if on cue, blotunga.

I had Koro just as you on my fishy list on D1. If you remember I was the only one who found him off. I don't remember the post exactly, and my connection here is to crappy to try to find it but I'm sure I mentioned it. But then you started jumping on me and I had to go to sleep so I didn't pursue it.