This was already covered not long ago by HSL. They get nothing until the next night. You caught up, right?

Yes, thanks.



Not "too" - he's pretty sure adaliabooks is scum, and thinks flubbucket is town vanilla.


I thought this was your first one; which other mafia games have you played on GOG?



So, the only memorable thing about the game you're thinking is mchack's verbosity as scum, even though it might be a game you were in? Gotcha.


That's not exactly what I meant, and I'm pretty sure that's not exactly what flubbucket's doing.
I'd suggest you start using your brain more than your hip, were I not quite certain you already are.


Well, you hadn't given much indication, if any at all, when you voted adaliabooks... And yet you didn't care to inquire why he placed his vote on adaliabooks, or if it was as it seemed to you.


What's the matter, Leonard03, choosing the right night-action turns out harder than you thought?


That's quite the convenient way not to go on record, isn't it?


They sure as hell try, don't they?


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He made a case for lynching flubbucket, as town vanilla, and one for mchack as his scum-read. I don't see him jumping on people left and right, to try and save his skin. How is he trying to grab onto anyone else?

Also, can you point me to where he fought his own lynch when he was the lading wagon?


Why do you believe its better?

When I was a kid my mom didn't pay me for being good.



So I was good for nuthin'.

I took a logic class once. It had this as an example:

"A grilled cheese sandwich is better than nothing. Nothing is better than God. Therefore, a grilled cheese sandwich is better than God."

His question, and the answer to it, are what triggered this question.

-HSL asked whether a Convert has full access to the chat. That could be read as having Read/Write access.
-The answer was that they only get access on the following night. That could be read as they can't even see the thread on the night (and following day) that they get converted.

I want to clarify whether a convert has read access for the Day after being converted. I'd been assuming they'd get the link to the (now closed) QT when they are informed they've been converted; they could read it that Day, but they couldn't post themselves until the following Night.

Yes. Although, while my votes may have been no less annoying to certain people, at least they were entirely predictable (until the end condition was met).

So you have a strong reason to believe that trent is scum? Still isn't very much different from your other votes unless you explain why you'd think that.

Since conversions make the Cult significantly more powerful already, converts will not get any access to the chat until the following Night. So they have to 'fly blind' the first Day.

vote count will follow in an hour or so.

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I will not double post again!

where did I say that scum will be able to pick which kind of target they're going to hit?
reread #319 and it's certainly not in there...

yes the first is better, but if you want hypothetical scenarios: if the two nk are masons but the one nk and one conversion is two vanillas, then the second option is better.

I haven't asked that. Never will. But you just know that? how?

Trust in masons, is what krypsyn says. They'll know.

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Now for something fun :) ... D'n'D? or Cat Videos? oh, I know let's play mafia!

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his being scum or not, doesn't change anything in that context. But sure, seems he is in the "would lynch townie, if possible" category...

may or not. who knows.

This is a good point. I asked for your reads before. Now I think is a good a time as any to go on record.
Do you think flub is scum or town, right now?
If you think he is town, do you intend to vote for him?
Who do you think is scum this dusk? ... remember you never know what happens at night, you might want to go on record, before night hits, because no one knows who'll wake up again tomorrow...

true. don't know that I have though. He lists players as if they are backing his thoughts, but I'm the only one averse to them. I just wanted to show, that their backing doesn't go so far as to vote accordingly.

nope, the recruiter dies. see the setup.

to my knowledge no-one did play against his current goal in #51. Do you mean bookwyrm or flubs? they're in this game too, we should ask them.
@flubs, @bookwyrm: Did either of you play against your own win condition last game, in the hopes of acquiring other win conditions someday and to not hurt those?

true. though there was not much to read from bookwyrm, yet was there? and the truth of it is still, that it's simply false to state, I'd only OMGUSed adalia and dedo all game, wouldn't you say?

But mostly. Remember: even, when we have a conversion tonight, you can in no way be sure it was flubs. Could just as well be you getting converted. We'll have to reassert everyone. flubs included, but not only flubs.

what?

I was talking to him. I feel it brings the point across better. As in: I know something, You know something, other people will know something, too. If he thinks about it and knows something, he'll concede other people probably know something, too.
simply rethoric....

They read the thread, same as we do. it doesn't take a genius to form opinions about people from the way they talk. Scum do that. Doesn't make the Ideas correct, but do you really, seriously suggest scums only option is flubs? They won't consider others?

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yes it does. it removes one conversion from the game forever. Only four conversions can happen this game. With adalia dead, it's only 3

how so?

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it is in the gamesetup. My premise is: scum can read. nothing has changed by that comment.

lol, ok good you're enforcing your seat in my scumreadlist #3. How is it that flub needs to die now, that you realized he can trip up scum?
let's say he's scum then scum(teamB) can die by neglecting the possibility. let's say he's town, scum can die by trying to convert him(N2) (or loose their shot for nothing(N1))
How exactly is it that flub has to be lynched now and can't be left for scum to trip over?

yes, and that makes it better to lynch town how?

look again! the second one: see what he answers to :

"mchack: ... I think we all play this game to win and that includes flubs, too"
"flubbucket: MOAR BULLSHIT!!!11!!1

This is a game.

I play games for fun."

EBWOP (linking fail)

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Well, you could simply say European late afternoon/evening and that still wouldn't be a precise deadline. It is of course up to you, it's just that I'd like to be around for EoD, and European late morning/noon doesn't work for me. May not work for those across the pond either, but not speaking for them.


Then the Convert's PM in the setup document is misleading, as it currently gives them the link to the QT.

Why would I ever do such a thing??

I will not double post again!

the "get lynched on D2 part" and "could be seen as postponing the inevitable" is what bothers me, sure it may be the case. or not. Maybe the actually converted player slips up. and we lynch him. or we get interesting info by the flips and go after someone revealed by that? there is more than one scum out there and we should go after the scummiest. if that happens to be flubs D2 ok. if not why force it, to make him to lynch? we can't be postponing the inevitable, if nothing in this setup is inevitable. We'll have to go day by day and react, to the new info we get through each lynch and each flip. Everyday trying to hit scum. that's the way to win in my opinion.