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The Greater Good

Good grief, my previous post sure couldn't get more messed up, could it?


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Hunter65536: @hsl Wow, that nitpicky about coming back after nap. It’s not like I left for a day or even half a day did I? Your desperation is quite clear. About the antsy thing, you just wanted people split across those choices and since it has been my observation that people lynch someone rather than let it go to no lynch i was saying that was your goal there. (Muddy the waters was the expression I used before for this)
The bit about your short nap was a joke - A Joke. Do you really think I'd stoop that low to use that as an argument in a forum game? Seriously?


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Hunter65536: [...] you just wanted people split across those choices and since it has been my observation that people lynch someone rather than let it go to no lynch i was saying that was your goal there. (Muddy the waters was the expression I used before for this)
Let me see if I got this right - I'm the CL who wants a (random?) mislynch, so I make my case on three people, two of them already having votes on them, in other words stating my intention to vote among those, in order to... split the votes and achieve a (random?) mislynch.

How does this even make sense to you?

But good to see zero counterarguments to anything I said.


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Hunter65536: Better start thinking in other direction as well, as my flip would reveal if this lynch goes through.
You just got one more vote, making it a grand total of two. And you already start the *wink wink, nudge nudge" to get the pressure of you?
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HypersomniacLive: Not sure I follow what exactly your reasoning is the way you've phrased this.
My reasoning is that something doesn't feel right in the argument you're having, but what I see coming from your end doesn't stray away from what I've seen in the past as Town. And even though Hunter is accusing you of muddying waters and throwing shade I'm not sure I really see that. And if it's not you it's probably him. Ultimately it may be you after all and Hunter + flub may have read through your play. Or none of you, too. But as I said I'm more inclined to take a chance some spots over others.

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HypersomniacLive: And what about mchack?
I can't tell, he's come to a somewhat neutral status so I don't have anything strong against him, nor can I wave him off entirely. I wouldn't push for him, but if he was the popular choice in the end of the day and we were one vote off vs no-lynch I wouldn't mind going for him too much.
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HypersomniacLive: snip
Permission granted to HSL to edit this post to fix the damned mess. Original post saved, deviating from it will result in a mod kill during night time.
Do reply to this post once you are done editing, for time stamp purposes.
The Greater Good

@dedoporno - thanks for the clarification.



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JMich: Permission granted to HSL to edit this post to fix the damned mess. Original post saved, deviating from it will result in a mod kill during night time.
Do reply to this post once you are done editing, for time stamp purposes.
Cheers a bunch, all done.
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HypersomniacLive: ............

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flubbucket: When you recruit me, do I have to change my avatar to match yours??
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HypersomniacLive: Let me quickly check - does town recruiting cult work?

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Yes. And for my first Night Action
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HypersomniacLive: And what about mchack?
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Do you think that the CL's plan consists of a single target for the D1 lynch, and a single target for the N1 recruitment?
hmm, I guess not: Rather a single (or even a group of) preferred Target(s) for Lynch and probably a single target for N1. (get someone lynched that's on his track and recruit someone that's got a lot of town cred ... wouldn't know who these are, don't ask :) (But since you will anyway: If I were CL I'd recruit Trent (he's not even been voted the whole game) - as for who to lynch, of course only CL knows who's on his track, I earnestly don't know who he'd want lynched right now. (But probably you, because since I FOS'd you, you became a menace: making people do re-reads on a daily basis, reiterating questions, CLs bound to be annoyed ;)

But what do I know, that's how I'd do it but maybe CL is smart (unlike me) and just doesn't care at all who's lynched (as long as it's not him) which means he could have an easy time staying away from the wagon forming (he's the only one knowing it'd be a townie, if we are on the wrong track come lynchtime) and chooses his recruit with a dice. (which helps a lot against any alarmist we might have, reducing any assumptions he'll have as to whom to protect pure chance)

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mchack: [...] Still after the ISO of Lift, I still don't think he's our best bet on hitting scum, since he's way to engaged, calling out people making enemies, not something I at least would do as scum. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Can you point me to whom, where and for what he called out people?
oh, man. You're doing it again! ;) (I should really stop talking out of my ass, and write less and more to the point/concise and research each comma before posting, but well, I guess I won't.)
ok off for another ISO of Lift: (you know this is taking time off my learning how to make nice charts 'n stuff about this game! o_o)
(I'll not even try to link the posts this time, but yes you got me I haven't yet read the posts about the proper way to make links, that pass the gog forum software Demon without getting crushed to bits and sprayed all over the place, yet. But I will before trying to post more than one link at time, I promise)

#28 - Calling Sage out on WIFOM (probably RVS Banter though)
#110 - Calling Wyrm out (and voting) on "Scummy" Soft-Claiming + unexplained voting and a bit Trent, too, for being fast on the Vote Trigger.
#115/#119 - Calling Wyrm out on being wrong with the "Posting Restriction" thingie. (probably doesn't count either, not really making enemies there, but it's a town thing to do, ending a source of distraction by pointing out it's a "should" not a "has to" in the rules, and if it were a posting restriction it'd be game breaking.)
#170 - Calling out Sage for not saying anything on Wyrms soft-claim although it's already near 100 posts back.
#174 - The much cited "over-eager" bit on Trent. netting him a vote.
#228 (and others) - Calling Flubs useless
#250 - Calling out You: "Stop misrepresenting..."
#312 - Voting Hunter for throwing accusations of throwing shade too easily.
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So whatever you think about his play I think we can definitly agree that he's engaged and is calling people out and making enemies. There's 6 people out of 7 he has confronted about something or other, so it's definitly not some lay low, under radar kind of play.

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mchack: [...] 2. hmm. here #213 he made a firm stance on him being the best lynch for day 1. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Do you think he really meant it?
I have no Idea, but I don't think so. We don't have Jokers in here, right? (only reason I would imagine anyone wanting to get lynched. I think we all play this game to win and that includes flubs, too.)

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mchack: [...] But I still think CL would be in a more comfortable position when he'd be playing like HSL right now than when he'd be playing like Flub. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Is the "more comfortable position" for the CL to be in play(style)-wise independent of which player the CL is?
What?
ah, I get it. Guess not. Haven't thought about it, before. But of course, if someone already has a set way of playing, it would of course be very telling if he deviates from that trying to be all laid back and shit. True. So yes. When I say that's not what I would do as CL, this doesn't mean, it's not something others wouldn't do as CL. (oh, too many "not"s in that sentence. I'll try again: if Hijack every game always votes for everyone around him, it wouldn't be good to stop doing that just because he's the only scum in game, even if it's not something I would do as scum in the same game)

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HypersomniacLive: Yeah, sorry about that. Most players either followed or played in the game(s) I mentioned. In game #49 everyone but trentonlf was a lonesome SK (he was the only townie), with some interesting mechanics and restrictions. It was an interesting setup worth reading, if/when you have some time.

To get a taste regarding the tone I mentioned, you could ISO the players of interest in that game.
ooh, that sounds like fun. Will read (or at least make a chart ;). Thanks for the summary/teaser. (btw, I thought maybe with all that scraping, it would be possible to make a mobi (kindle ebook) out of the older games. To read them more comfortably, less straining on the eyes...)
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mchack: But what do I know, that's how I'd do it but maybe CL is smart (unlike me)...
Heh.
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mchack: ..................
I have no Idea, but I don't think so. We don't have Jokers in here, right? (only reason I would imagine anyone wanting to get lynched. I think we all play this game to win and that includes flubs, too.)

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MOAR BULLSHIT!!!11!!1

This is a game.

I play games for fun.
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Lifthrasil: Why not? I'm a champion of girth! ... At my weight I would have to be 2,53 m tall to have an acceptable BMI, but I eat and eat and don't grow any taller.
Flub's twist was well done, but that right there was really smooth. *golf clap*

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Bookwyrm627: *squint*
Maybe I didn't look back far enough to see the source or something, but who said you did? [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Nobody? It was just a (poorly prefaced?) addendum within the context and flow of that particular exchange with dedoporno in relation to my view of mchack, i.e. I don't want a piece of him Today which doesn't mean that he gets an unconditional free pass from me. I probably could have worded it differently. /shrug
I see. To me, that particular comment came off as really defensive, especially when I didn't see where anyone at all had accused you of anything like that. I can certainly understand not giving someone a free pass, but the "And I never said [X]" sounds like someone accused you of saying X.

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Bookwyrm627: [...] I'm seeing a lot of my thoughts/words from earlier in the thread being repeated. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Could you elaborate?
Example:
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Bookwyrm627: His reads and posts are very, very neutral.
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Lifthrasil: His later reads are very, very neutral, at best;
Quite the déjà vu moment. There have been a couple of other times that I could dig for, but that's the one that really jumped out at me and prompted the comment.

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HypersomniacLive: How's that rereading going?
Slowly, and with many distractions.

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HypersomniacLive: Or did I misunderstand you'd do it?
Nope. Working on it now that I've caught up again.
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HypersomniacLive: The Greater Good

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Lifthrasil: ~ Take on Hunter65536 ~
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HypersomniacLive: [emphasis added]

You comment on trentonlf's "suspecting him = throwing shade", yet nothing on this in your take on Hunter65536. Do you see differences, and if so, what are those? If not, any particular reason you didn't make the same point about him?

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Lifthrasil: [...] and, hopefully, an incentive to become more useful and contribute something.
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HypersomniacLive: Ooooo Kay.

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trentonlf: [...] what are your thoughts on the votes placed and the reasonings behind the votes? [...]
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HypersomniacLive: What are yours?

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trentonlf: apathy seems to have already set in for the game, we seem to be almost in the same state as we were about 4 days ago. *sigh*
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HypersomniacLive: And what exactly are you doing about it besides sighing?

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Bookwyrm627: [...]

*squint*
Maybe I didn't look back far enough to see the source or something, but who said you did? [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Nobody? It was just a (poorly prefaced?) addendum within the context and flow of that particular exchange with dedoporno in relation to my view of mchack, i.e. I don't want a piece of him Today which doesn't mean that he gets an unconditional free pass from me. I probably could have worded it differently. /shrug

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Bookwyrm627: [...] I'm seeing a lot of my thoughts/words from earlier in the thread being repeated. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Could you elaborate?

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Bookwyrm627: [...] That leaves...Lift, Dedo, and HSL (in no particular order). I admit that I'm not looking forward to trying to sort it out; that is going to be some long reading and hard thinking.
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HypersomniacLive: How's that rereading going?

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Bookwyrm627: [...] Thus, the rereading I need to do to see whether the misgivings solidify or dissipate.

I should also reread Lift. Reviewing the posts from Trent and Hunter would also be a good idea.

(And while I'm at it, I may as well reread Mchack and Flub. Then me and Krypsyn, and if the Day hasn't ended, maybe even JMich.)
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HypersomniacLive: Or did I misunderstand you'd do it?

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dedoporno: [...] Lift was my top suspect but I'm starting to have second thoughts. Hunter and maybe even mchack may be alternatives, with mchack maybe being slightly lower priority. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: What second thoughts and why are you having about Lifthrasil? And could you elaborate on why you're considering the other two?
My thoughts on the votes:
1. The votes on Hunter, I think they are bad votes because he’s probably town
2. The votes on you, I think they are bad votes because you’re probably town
3. The votes on Lift, he’s one of my top suspects so they might be good votes
4. The vote on flub, meh it could go either way but I have not real desire to lynch him today
5. The vote on dedo, I think it’s a great vote and everyone should be voting him as well

What am I doing about the apathy besides sighing? The same think I always do, try to encourage people to come to a consensus after about three days and then nothing else. So I guess I’m doing nothing about it, it’s what I’m good at.
Apologies, the example in my last post should be quoting HSL from 264, not Lift from 254. Typo on my part when changing the post numbers.

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Bookwyrm627: His reads and posts are very, very neutral.
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HypersomniacLive: His later reads are very, very neutral, at best;
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Trent: Please pick a player/slot you haven't commented about much, and tell me what you think of that player thus far.

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I've spent the past ~2 hours rereading Dedo. I'm satisfied that he is town (for now).

I'm not going to have time to get to HSL tonight.

Mchack made some good points about Lift in post 321; I'm reconsidering my Lift stance. Hunter's recent outburst against HSL is also causing me to reevaluate Hunter; it was rather defensive.

Unvote Lift.

I'm currently considering Lift, Hunter, and HSL (in no particular order) for CL.

I should have time tomorrow to reapply my vote before deadline.

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Please remember that people are recruited, not killed, at night. As such, last minute questions should NOT be left until later if possible, because you might be playing for a different team on D2.
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Bookwyrm627: Apologies, the example in my last post should be quoting HSL from 264, not Lift from 254. Typo on my part when changing the post numbers.

Example:
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HypersomniacLive: His later reads are very, very neutral, at best;
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Bookwyrm627: ----------

Trent: Please pick a player/slot you haven't commented about much, and tell me what you think of that player thus far.

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I've spent the past ~2 hours rereading Dedo. I'm satisfied that he is town (for now).

I'm not going to have time to get to HSL tonight.

Mchack made some good points about Lift in post 321; I'm reconsidering my Lift stance. Hunter's recent outburst against HSL is also causing me to reevaluate Hunter; it was rather defensive.

Unvote Lift.

I'm currently considering Lift, Hunter, and HSL (in no particular order) for CL.

I should have time tomorrow to reapply my vote before deadline.

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Please remember that people are recruited, not killed, at night. As such, last minute questions should NOT be left until later if possible, because you might be playing for a different team on D2.
mchack: I was concerned about Sage and her lack of effort as it made it seem like she was trying to hide in plain sight and I felt she might be scum. But after she asked to be replaced I hadn’t commented on mchack because I wanted to see what he did and how he behaved, and I find him to be very engaged and appears to be trying to find scum and I have no desire to vote him today.
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mchack: ..................
I have no Idea, but I don't think so. We don't have Jokers in here, right? (only reason I would imagine anyone wanting to get lynched. I think we all play this game to win and that includes flubs, too.)

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flubbucket: MOAR BULLSHIT!!!11!!1

This is a game.

I play games for fun.
point taken. you're right of course. But when you're lynched, there's not much more fun to be had in the game, so I'd still say you weren't serious.
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flubbucket: MOAR BULLSHIT!!!11!!1

This is a game.

I play games for fun.
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mchack: point taken. you're right of course. But when you're lynched, there's not much more fun to be had in the game, so I'd still say you weren't serious.
Why do I get the prickly feeling you might be smart??

Do you agree HypersomniacLive should be stopped before he recruits me and we take over town for glory and fulfillment of Supreme Leader?? may he be forever praised.
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flubbucket: Do you agree HypersomniacLive should be stopped before he recruits me and we take over town for glory and fulfillment of Supreme Leader?? may he be forever praised.
So, lynch HSL cause he's the CL or if we don't and he actually is he should consider recruiting you?