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Posted September 20, 2017
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Lifthrasil: I doubt JMich would incorporate something like that in his game.
Of course not. I'm not a horrible human person after all.
Oh, wait...
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Bookwyrm627: I'm merely listening to the mod.
Bad idea. I have it on very good authority that he doesn't know what he's doing. At all.
Post edited September 20, 2017 by JMich
Posted September 20, 2017
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Lifthrasil: I doubt JMich would incorporate something like that in his game.
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JMich: Of course not. I'm not a horrible human person after all.
Oh, wait...
Heh.

[Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down To Georgia]

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Bookwyrm627: I'm merely listening to the mod.
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JMich: Bad idea. I have it on very good authority that he doesn't know what he's doing. At all.
Good authority? Whew! I am off the hook then. ;)
Post edited September 20, 2017 by Krypsyn
Posted September 20, 2017
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Lifthrasil: A posting restriction is usually mod-enforced and at least my PM didn't tell me anything about having to follow this 'rule'.
Also, an actual faction specific, mod-enforced posting restriction would be very game-breaking.
I have to agree with this, I doubt this "rule" is that limiting or revealing since it would serve as kind of a cryptoclaim free pass. Of course, there might be some hidden mechanic that makes it balanced, but I guess we'll have to see about that.


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Bookwyrm627: Though Rule 19a indicates that Sage is the CL.
It does?!
Posted September 20, 2017
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Hunter65536: which does seem to suggest posting restriction is town specific, did I miss something?
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Lifthrasil: We can test it, if you like. We can each start a roll-call and all others don't respond to it. Those who get bad consequences from that, are town. And the single person who doesn't suffer any consequence from not answering correctly is the CL. ... That's what I mean by game-breaking. It would end the game in one roll-call (or two, at most, if the first one is started by the CL).
So are we a go on this or not? Anyway, here goes nothing for the Greater Good
Posted September 20, 2017
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Bookwyrm627: Though Rule 19a indicates that Sage is the CL.
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dedoporno: It does?!
Of course.

Exhibit A:
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JMich: This game is a Cult C9 semi-open setup.
From this we know there are exactly two factions, those being Town and Cult.

Exhibit B:
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JMich: 19. ...Posting the Greater Good means the rest of the NWA members should begin their next post with the phrase "The Greater Good".
Here we see how a roll call is initiated.

Exhibit C:
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JMich: 19a. While a roll call is going on, you cannot start a second one. An NWA member would not be doing that.
Note the bolded part (bolding provided by me).

Exhibit D:
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Sage103082: The Greater Good
Per B, Sage has attempted to initiate another roll call. Per C, an NWA member would not be doing this. We know that NWA is the town faction, therefore Sage is not town. Per A, we know there are only two factions, so Sage must be in the other faction, i.e. Cult. This is Day 1, so the cult only contains the Cult Leader. From all of the above, Sage must be the Cult Leader.

Easy peasy, lynch-to-win.

Vote Sage.
Posted September 20, 2017
the Greater Good.

I did not expect Hunter to slip in there while I was proof-reading.
Posted September 20, 2017
The Greater Good


[The Offspring - The Kids Aren't Alright]

I'll edit my other silly you-tube links too, in case it matters*, with descriptions of what they are.

*it totally doesn't
Post edited September 20, 2017 by Krypsyn
Posted September 20, 2017
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Bookwyrm627: Mostly that there is only one recruitment attempt between Day 1 and Day 2, and choosing lil' ol' me for that first attempt would make life interesting for the cult for a couple of reasons.
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trentonlf: The Greater Good

What??
@bookwyrm What do you think about this?
Posted September 20, 2017
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trentonlf: The Greater Good

What??
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Hunter65536: @bookwyrm What do you think about this?
Clearly Sage and Trent are fighting over who is actually the CL. We should just double lynch them on Day 1 and call it good.
Posted September 20, 2017
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Lifthrasil: We can test it, if you like. We can each start a roll-call and all others don't respond to it. Those who get bad consequences from that, are town. And the single person who doesn't suffer any consequence from not answering correctly is the CL. ... That's what I mean by game-breaking. It would end the game in one roll-call (or two, at most, if the first one is started by the CL).
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Hunter65536: So are we a go on this or not? Anyway, here goes nothing for the Greater Good
Fine. Let's do that test and see whether it actually is a posting restriction or not.
Posted September 21, 2017
The Greater Good

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Lifthrasil: [...] Not really. You just give the more useful answers. [...]
And yet, it was not directed at me either.


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Lifthrasil: [...] However, trent reacting in this way is consistent with previous games. [...]
As opposed to Bookwyrm627 soft-claiming something on D1 (as town)? And it's consistent for trentonlf as what alignment?


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Lifthrasil: [...] Case 2: he is town and tries some stupid ploy, counting on everyone understanding what he does and what he wants other PRs to do. And 'forgets' again that the CL reads everything as well and has the same chance of understanding whatever ploy that is than all the others. [...]
Doesn't "everyone" include the CL by definition?


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Lifthrasil: Yes. You (and apparently Bookwyrm) missed the 'should'. That's not a 'has to'. [...]
Rule #13 is also worded with "should". Does it make the rule optional, or does it make it another 'rule'?

Also, rule #7 says "Please remember to bold your votes and unvotes [...]". Does it mean that vote(s)/unvote(s) count regardless?


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Lifthrasil: [...] and at least my PM didn't tell me anything about having to follow this 'rule'. [...]
As opposed to your PM telling you that you have to follow all the other rules?



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Bookwyrm627: [...] Exhibit C:
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JMich: 19a. While a roll call is going on, you cannot start a second one. An NWA member would not be doing that.
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Bookwyrm627: Note the bolded part (bolding provided by me). [...]
Do you know what determines when and how a roll call has ended?


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Bookwyrm627: [...] Easy peasy, lynch-to-win.

Vote Sage.
Heh.

*reads post #129*

No voting trentonlf, like you did Sage103082?


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Bookwyrm627: the Greater Good.

I did not expect Hunter to slip in there while I was proof-reading.
Rule #19 also says:
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JMich: 19. [...] Be aware that non NWA members may also post it or attempt to start a roll call, so be careful not to fall in the imposters' trap.
Should I assume you're confident enough that Hunter65536 is a NWA member? If so, why?
Posted September 21, 2017
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Bookwyrm627: [...] Exhibit C:

Note the bolded part (bolding provided by me). [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Do you know what determines when and how a roll call has ended?
Technically speaking, what marks a roll call as ended has not been stated, so no. Practically speaking, I'm assuming a roll call has ended once everyone else has posted, meaning mine ended with post 110.

As a side note, to make sure this doesn't continue to cloud the waters, my 109 vote on Lift was simply because he'd been the only one who had not yet responded to the roll call.

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Bookwyrm627: [...] Easy peasy, lynch-to-win.

Vote Sage.
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HypersomniacLive: Heh.

*reads post #129*

No voting trentonlf, like you did Sage103082?
Everyone rolls a 1 occasionally. I happened to roll a crit fail for my observation check on that post; I'd been mentally marking off who has and has not responded, and Trent was in the "Has responded" category by that point.

But ya'll make a good point.

Vote Trent.

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Bookwyrm627: the Greater Good.

I did not expect Hunter to slip in there while I was proof-reading.
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HypersomniacLive: Rule #19 also says:
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JMich: 19. [...] Be aware that non NWA members may also post it or attempt to start a roll call, so be careful not to fall in the imposters' trap.
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HypersomniacLive: Should I assume you're confident enough that Hunter65536 is a NWA member? If so, why?
That is not a safe assumption. Hunter hasn't been open enough to read, which leaves him on the suspicion list. Granted, rolling the dice indicates he's only got a 1/7 chance of being CL.
Posted September 21, 2017
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HypersomniacLive: Should I assume you're confident enough that Hunter65536 is a NWA member? If so, why?
Heh, nice try.
I believe that all of you are NWA members. My belief may be wrong. Feel free to do what you want with said information.
Posted September 21, 2017
The Greater Good??

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Lifthrasil: The Greater Good

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HypersomniacLive: Any particular reason you didn't address the question directly at flubbucket?
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Lifthrasil: Not really. You just give the more useful answers. Flubb is often so hard to understand. ;-)

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I believe the phrase you're looking for is flubbucket is a useless gelatinous mass.
Posted September 21, 2017
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Hunter65536: ...........
@flub Kimbo Slice? I don't believe you
Maybe Kim Chi.....
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