More like HSL and wyrm. Lift's opening was a just a bit odd but since then I haven't seen something out of the ordinary. And again, it's nothing solid, just small stuff that look slightly off to me and in the absence of something more meaningful they are they were the only... not leads, but at least trails to try and follow on.

Anyway, it seems that drealmer is going to be the main point of interest that will probably get things going in whatever direction. Speaking of, I never quite got how you read that phrase of his. As a slip-up or as too lamist?

Who the hell are you?!??

I probably shouldn't have hit post with only that Hijack reaction above, but I was just so stunned.

Has HijacK at the ripe old age of 21 turned over a new leaf? Is he a new man? More importantly, does he post such an obviously counter-meta post as legit Townie trying something new or as Scum cover? Bizarre... but I guess... wait and see?

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Yeah, bler is like, 99% Town here. I am totally disappointed.

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I would be utterly stunned if Lift and drealmer are w/w and doing this for theater.


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Flub is not the truculent bastard he usually is as Scum. I probably would have expected him to just stick that vote on me and leave it if he were... so, early Town read there.


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Lift and HSL are largely inscrutable to me this early.

I read his post as a slip, to me it sounded as if he was lamenting that Gamma couldn't be scum with him.

Not much else standing out to me today either, sadly.

Barely into the Day phase and are we gonna thunderdome drealmer and Lift?

eeeeeeennnhh I dunno

Can I get some reactions to Hijack's post?

Ha. drealmer over-reacted just as I expected he would. I could have bet on him voting me for attacking him. Unfortunately betting is not allowed.

Now the big question is: it this over-reaction the usual bad play from a tunneling town drealmer? Or is it scum drealmer, pretending to react in his usual way? Both are possible. But for now I have the feeling that it actually might be town-drealmer. The way he exploded ... I think as scum he might try to temper that a bit. I'm not sure and I see why flubb drew the conclusion he did about drealmer, but to me this looks more like genuine bad play with tunneling and not pretended bad play with tunneling.

So for now:
unvote drealmer


@HSL: yes, you're actually right. In some ways drealmer and my play are shamefully similar. But I'm trying to improve.
About that 'somewhat surprised', that was probably unclearly formulated. 'Somewhat' because I am not surprised that you try to put pressure on me. You always do that (and on anyone else) and it's good play. But 'surprised' because making something scummy out of that specific post (the 'don't lurk please' plea) felt totally ridiculous to me. Yes, it was triggered by Gamma's late arrival. But it was directed at everybody at a player-level and, as I wrote, completely independent of faction or role. It's just something that's important to me as player and I thought that was clear.
Now, ridicolous arguments from drealmer are normal. But not from you. That did indeed raise the question, whether you had some other motive to join that argument - and I still wonder that.

Well, I hope with this explanation it became a bit clearer why I wrote 'somewhat surprised'.

Did not expect this.

I really don't think scum!lift unvotes town!drealmer here. drealmer is sorta Day 1 lunch menu at all times.

I softly touched on that. I have taken a note of it, yes. It should be something to look at in the future (near or not remains to be seen).


Really?!


How about scum lift unvoting scum drealmer?

lol

I dunno... like, do these two guys cook that up in scumchat?

Actually... ah, please excuse the dumbtell, but remind me... do we have that here? Night only, right?

I wanted to see what drealmers response was. But so far as of your post he has only gotten on and said wow look people have been posting, hes hungry, tomorrow he will have to take some time for it all, and he only has 10min now.

Can you decihper this for me please


Why such a reacting to wanting to give drealmer a chance to respond before voting? There are currently two votes on drealmer (as of this post) which is the majority of votes which as I have read the way this works is the majority vote is the person to be lynch. So how is waiting for a response and possible learning more going to hurt us and hand the day to scum? Your question about how would you play day 1 if not by voting? - I think we should play day one by learning and voting not just by voting to vote.


Its day one and if we did not have a back-up player would my opinion on having a few votes on gamma be different. I still would not want to see someone voted quickly just for lack of being in the game yet and the possibility and losing a player with out the player having any chance to chime in is something I am against. My bring up the sub because it is an option and I would rather is someone else in the game that can contributed as compared to losing a player that had not posted at all in the game.

I am not disregarding this Hijack as a cover for scum or third-party him at all. I never said in my statement that I found this new Hijack to be town, scum or third party. I have not disregarded the possibility. Hijack is a good player and I would not put anything by him. I do agree with him that previous games / play styles should not be taken into account as strongly as some people do. I have always stated that I try hard not to do that. I feel that each game is different and that the actions, comments and play style for the current game is what should be taken into account more then past games. However, like I said past games and play styles still do bleed through to the current game even if I try for it not to.

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Drealmer posted in response to lift but not to trent or I about his statement.
@Drealmer do you plan on address our questioning your statement? or other things in the game other then Lift?
Your post was 6 hours ago and you said you were going to eat, take a walk and then catch up. You have not come back to the game yet. I do know its a weekend and RL gets in the way of the game but , I am feeling that most of your posts recently are hey im still here but ill be back and catch up. I dont really see where you are hunting and looking/ pushing buttons to help.

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RL comes first and we all have things going on in our lives I did not mean any thing snarky if it came off that way. I do mention RL as to give everyone a heads up on if I wont be on as compared to just going MIA. I honestly want to hear more from you and your thoughts on the game.

I agree with you. If it is computer issues understandable but ask to be replaced if its going to be a constant issues. This is the best thing for scum to do. Not post and use an excuse why they can't. So you slide right under everyone's radar because by not posting you are bringing absolutely no attention to yourself.

I am not sure what to make of Lifts quick back off of drealmer.

*I do not feel well at all and I have family gathering I can not get out of so I will be away most of the rest of the day*

Hmm. Possible slip?

Why? You yourself said that drealmer7 is "sorta Day 1 lunch menu at all times".


Me too, but I'm not convinced it's v/v either. Are you?


I invite you to ISO Lifthrasil of game #46. I'm starting to get a tad of a déjà vu, but with an extra touch of usual town-Lifthrasil; may be that "I'm trying to improve' he mentioned, or scum-chat during Twilight paying off.


My initial reaction (very last question to Sage103082). Undecided for now; he offered this... nugget of wisdom while having practically zero interactions.



He overreacted just like you expected him to, which implies to me town-drealmer7, yet he may have done it as scum, even though he'd temper it a bit in that case, but you can still see flubbucket's point. Interesting.

And that's enough to unvote him, even though he hasn't yet answered your questions from your post #139. If you now lean towards town-drealmer7, what do you think of trentonlf's argument that you saw?


A general plea directed at everybody, with the extra mention that it's completely independent of faction or role (a disclaimer you emphasise for the third time now?) is exactly how I'd expect you to phrase it for it to work as a cover, if it's one. I have to wonder if you actually don't/can't see that, or pretend not to see it, so that you can call other people's arguments ridiculous and continue to throw shade at them.

Also interesting how you selectively address posts and points addressed to you.



*looks at the "7 hours ago" timestamp of drealmer7's post*

That must have been a very big breakfast that required a very very long walk.

Ok what is v/v?

How curious??

Maybe this post isn't so silly.

You backed off of dreamler rather quickly.