Posted March 04, 2016
bler144
μαϊμού
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
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From Germany
Posted March 04, 2016
Alright. I'll share my name. I don't see how that can hurt town, but perhaps we can learn something from it.
I am Dr. Zona Monolit
and I don't like Dr. Kŭrvava Bukhalka Zhena
I am Dr. Zona Monolit
and I don't like Dr. Kŭrvava Bukhalka Zhena
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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From Micronesia
Posted March 04, 2016
drealmer7: .................
Because if everyone has the name of someone, then that just happens by default that some people have scum names as their dislike.
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This is non sequitur and NOT what you said. Because if everyone has the name of someone, then that just happens by default that some people have scum names as their dislike.
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You said, again...."you have information about "not liking them" to indicate to you that they are scum,"
Unvote: trentonlf
Vote: drealmer7
drealmer7
finding balance
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Posted March 04, 2016
currently non-consequential
I think you get it, but, to be clearer, I hope:
also by "flavor name stuff" I mean the hooplah that has arisen by talking about flavor name stuff (me causing a ruckus, etc.), not just flavor-name stuff directly (as in, me voting for dedo for arbitrarily/carelessly sharing PM information that they may not have been certain about its meaning when doing so. Not piecing together the flavor from each person and deciding based on that, which I think could be a mistake.)
Ponder these things:
What if not everyone has a dislike in their PM? What should we make of those people or whatever other information they may or may not have in their PMs? Is their information pure "flavor" too to be disregarded? What if my PM says "you saw so and so slip something into so and so's drink during the social last night" ? What if that so-and-so has been called out as being disliked by someone, and now they are hesitant to reveal themselves, and my PM information that I thought was going to be useful, no longer is?
What if dedo had been the only one or is one of a few/several who do have a dislike? Is that sharing not careless and possibly useful for scum and possibly detrimental for town? I find it to have been an anti-town play, and again, is the straw at which I have decided to grasp. Agree with me, or don't, tell me why you disagree, or don't. It shouldn't be that big of a deal, imo, but the fact that it has caused such a stir, makes me think I struck a chord somewhere.
No, I care that a dislike for someone was shared without prior discussion to revealing the dislike. If you'd have come out and said "soooo, I have a name in my PM of someone I dislike/hate. Do you all think I should share it or keep it to myself? Who thinks it doesn't matter at all, who thinks it is relevant?" things would have gone differently.
Okay, so why did you do it? Do you then think there IS something to that information that we should be keeping in mind? If so, what?
I feel yogsloth may have been counting on me to be one of the few who might actually have done that. If I hadn't done what I did, where do you think we'd be now? You're welcome, yogsloth, for keeping the game entertaining.
It seems some people think the information in PMs is pure meaningless flavor (trent), it seems some think there is more to it (dedo), I'm currently uncertain either way. I'm curious where everyone else falls.
Dessimu: Sounds cocky. And it is not a first time from you. Makes you less likable and thus, your opinion less valued. Lets keep such ideas to ourselves and treat everyone with a degree of respect. When we find lady killers, we may... Oooooh, they should wish they never stepped in this Institute.
What can I say? I'm clearly the smartest one here and I cannot help that it makes me less likable. It is fallible to devalue someone's thoughts because you don't like the person. Everyone must try to separate their ego from their intellect, those who do not, seem scummy to me. drealmer7: We need to decide, are we going to make the name-stuff be what we vote around, or are we going to try and figure something else out to figure out who is likely to be most scummy? I want to know everyone's thoughts here. If we vote for name-stuff, my vote stays on dedo. If not, I'm curious as to what other avenue of voting we could/should take.
Dessimu: Sorry, I fail to understand what you ask here. If I get it right, you ask "Do we place our votes now based on flavor-names and dislikes?" and then you ask "If not, then what do we base our votes on?". Right? Is that what you mean? If so, I would not base votes on the "flavor name stuff". By the way, I think dedo is town (judging by his name stuff and the way of my PM). What to base votes on now? Hmm... Gut feeling? Logic of reasoning? But not on "name stuff". also by "flavor name stuff" I mean the hooplah that has arisen by talking about flavor name stuff (me causing a ruckus, etc.), not just flavor-name stuff directly (as in, me voting for dedo for arbitrarily/carelessly sharing PM information that they may not have been certain about its meaning when doing so. Not piecing together the flavor from each person and deciding based on that, which I think could be a mistake.)
Ponder these things:
What if not everyone has a dislike in their PM? What should we make of those people or whatever other information they may or may not have in their PMs? Is their information pure "flavor" too to be disregarded? What if my PM says "you saw so and so slip something into so and so's drink during the social last night" ? What if that so-and-so has been called out as being disliked by someone, and now they are hesitant to reveal themselves, and my PM information that I thought was going to be useful, no longer is?
What if dedo had been the only one or is one of a few/several who do have a dislike? Is that sharing not careless and possibly useful for scum and possibly detrimental for town? I find it to have been an anti-town play, and again, is the straw at which I have decided to grasp. Agree with me, or don't, tell me why you disagree, or don't. It shouldn't be that big of a deal, imo, but the fact that it has caused such a stir, makes me think I struck a chord somewhere.
dedoporno: You already said this earlier yourself. If everyone indeed doesn't like another person (and there aren't duplicates) it's basically given that some people will hate scum. Do you honestly believe this bears any usable weight by itself?
I think it possibly could have born more weight had the dislike came out after the player was identified as the character, especially in further days. Now, I believe it is possibly useless, and it is you who made it useless by your timing/way you went about it. I realize that this is just a possibility, but I have nothing else better to go on currently. drealmer7: Agreed, hence my vote on dedoporno, it was just scummy distracting behavior with no ability to have the revealing of the dislike mean anything solid.
The flavor itself doesn't mean too much on it's own. But I feel the related discussion provided some interesting results. No, I care that a dislike for someone was shared without prior discussion to revealing the dislike. If you'd have come out and said "soooo, I have a name in my PM of someone I dislike/hate. Do you all think I should share it or keep it to myself? Who thinks it doesn't matter at all, who thinks it is relevant?" things would have gone differently.
Okay, so why did you do it? Do you then think there IS something to that information that we should be keeping in mind? If so, what?
cristigale: Looks like it's time to...
Unvote Hunter65536
@drealmer - my impression so far is that you find anyone who disagrees with you as scummy. Any thoughts on that?
Very sorry for it seeming that way. I really don't intend to be that way, I simply intend to analyze all angles with a critical eye, objectively. My issues aren't usually with people disagreeing with me, it's when I think someone understands me, twists what I say to seem as if they understood it differently (intentional "misunderstanding"), and then use their erroneous understanding as a basis for an argument against my argument/position. Unvote Hunter65536
@drealmer - my impression so far is that you find anyone who disagrees with you as scummy. Any thoughts on that?
HypersomniacLive: yogsloth's big on flavour, also hates sitting on our thumbs. especially on D1; I'm surprised you don't consider the possibility he added that bit to keep the game-thread alive during D1, and get himself a few extra kicks and giggles out of it.
Looking at this discussion, I'd say his idea was brilliant and a big success.
Of course I consider that possibility and figure it to be most likely, which is why dedo bringing it up adds nothing to the real discussion going on, and I find it to be scummy play, and voted them. If there is something to the dislikings that can be figured out, then I find dedo's play careless or serving scum, or a scum-tactic. Either way, I'm comfortable with my vote on dedo. Looking at this discussion, I'd say his idea was brilliant and a big success.
I feel yogsloth may have been counting on me to be one of the few who might actually have done that. If I hadn't done what I did, where do you think we'd be now? You're welcome, yogsloth, for keeping the game entertaining.
It seems some people think the information in PMs is pure meaningless flavor (trent), it seems some think there is more to it (dedo), I'm currently uncertain either way. I'm curious where everyone else falls.
Hunter65536
New GOGlin
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From India
Posted March 04, 2016
My name is Dr. Tutu du Seize and I don't like Dr. Zona Monolit.
Reminds me of a weird post I read a while back about an anime idea where a guy dresses up as girl to get into an all girls school and once he gets in he sees its all guys dressed up as girls but has to continue the act.
Reminds me of a weird post I read a while back about an anime idea where a guy dresses up as girl to get into an all girls school and once he gets in he sees its all guys dressed up as girls but has to continue the act.
Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
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From Germany
drealmer7
finding balance
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cristigale
Yip Yip
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From United States
Posted March 04, 2016
By my count, seven of us have shared either our name and/or who we dislike. I'll fill in my part...
I am Dr. Dorothy Zephyr. I dislike Dr. Saith Freuddwyd.
I am Dr. Dorothy Zephyr. I dislike Dr. Saith Freuddwyd.
Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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From Denmark
Posted March 04, 2016
I am curious... Those of you, sharing names and dislikes, why not share an occupation as well? The subject you are here to teach. Mm? Yogsloth spent time on these things. It's interesting!
dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
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From Bulgaria
Posted March 04, 2016
drealmer7: Okay, so why did you do it? Do you then think there IS something to that information that we should be keeping in mind? If so, what?
To see what will happen, confirm that is not something limited to my own character and last but not least see how different people react to it. So far your reaction was the strongest and your accusations were built upon weak arguments. As you said at the very beginning - grasping at straws. You continued to push it and when others called you out on it you started twisting mine and even your own words to try and make things look different. To a point where a consideration of an all-town game emerged out of the blue. I'm not sure why so many people are going for flub but for the time being I believe you tried way too hard push quite an iffy wagon so I would be fine voting you with the imminent deadline.
vote drealmer
You bitch!
By the way my name has quite amusing (almost perfect) translation in my language - Whorish Club (like a baseball bat) Woman.
Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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Hunter65536
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trentonlf
Easily amused
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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From Denmark
Posted March 04, 2016
trentonlf: So your vote on flub is because he is more involved in scum hunting or do you have another reason?
First: I have no solid reasons to draw on any player for the moment. So far I feel like drealmer is town and so might be dedoporno (based on him being first to announce his PM, which in construction, matches mine). I also know that such saying puts me in a questionable position "He might be scum, covering for his scum buddy/-ies". But if I am to guess scum, I may just as well guess other townies. So I choose to vote flubbucket now. He always looks scummy to me. Even when we were scum buddies in game #35, I thought he might be some super mafioso. Sounds pompous, I know. He seems to be enjoying flavor game (though bikini professor seems self-created) more than scum hunting. But then what scum hunting he does is too much for an ordinary town flubbucket. That raises my premature (Day 1) suspicions on him. And so, I vote flub.
My other suspects could be Leo, agent, cristigale. For lurking (sort of (it's Day 1 after all)). And I can't read Hunter, HSL, you and Krypsyn in this game. Yet.