Posted March 04, 2016
bler144
μαϊμού
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
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From Germany
Posted March 04, 2016
Alright. I'll share my name. I don't see how that can hurt town, but perhaps we can learn something from it.
I am Dr. Zona Monolit
and I don't like Dr. Kŭrvava Bukhalka Zhena
I am Dr. Zona Monolit
and I don't like Dr. Kŭrvava Bukhalka Zhena
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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From Micronesia
Posted March 04, 2016
drealmer7: .................
Because if everyone has the name of someone, then that just happens by default that some people have scum names as their dislike.
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This is non sequitur and NOT what you said. Because if everyone has the name of someone, then that just happens by default that some people have scum names as their dislike.
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You said, again...."you have information about "not liking them" to indicate to you that they are scum,"
Unvote: trentonlf
Vote: drealmer7
drealmer7
finding balance
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Hunter65536
New GOGlin
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From India
Posted March 04, 2016
My name is Dr. Tutu du Seize and I don't like Dr. Zona Monolit.
Reminds me of a weird post I read a while back about an anime idea where a guy dresses up as girl to get into an all girls school and once he gets in he sees its all guys dressed up as girls but has to continue the act.
Reminds me of a weird post I read a while back about an anime idea where a guy dresses up as girl to get into an all girls school and once he gets in he sees its all guys dressed up as girls but has to continue the act.
Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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From Denmark
Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
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From Germany
drealmer7
finding balance
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cristigale
Yip Yip
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From United States
Posted March 04, 2016
By my count, seven of us have shared either our name and/or who we dislike. I'll fill in my part...
I am Dr. Dorothy Zephyr. I dislike Dr. Saith Freuddwyd.
I am Dr. Dorothy Zephyr. I dislike Dr. Saith Freuddwyd.
Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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From Denmark
Posted March 04, 2016
I am curious... Those of you, sharing names and dislikes, why not share an occupation as well? The subject you are here to teach. Mm? Yogsloth spent time on these things. It's interesting!
dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
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From Bulgaria
Posted March 04, 2016
drealmer7: Okay, so why did you do it? Do you then think there IS something to that information that we should be keeping in mind? If so, what?
To see what will happen, confirm that is not something limited to my own character and last but not least see how different people react to it. So far your reaction was the strongest and your accusations were built upon weak arguments. As you said at the very beginning - grasping at straws. You continued to push it and when others called you out on it you started twisting mine and even your own words to try and make things look different. To a point where a consideration of an all-town game emerged out of the blue. I'm not sure why so many people are going for flub but for the time being I believe you tried way too hard push quite an iffy wagon so I would be fine voting you with the imminent deadline.
vote drealmer
You bitch!
By the way my name has quite amusing (almost perfect) translation in my language - Whorish Club (like a baseball bat) Woman.
Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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From Denmark
Posted March 04, 2016
I think in the end you will be *shocked* to discover of how smart Dean is.
- You probably do not have same thing as most us. Want to know, who I think, also does not have same thing as most of us? Scum. Or... A role. There is a slim chance Yogsloth made you town and intentionally gave you something else.
- Of those people with different info. We may think they are scum! And they probably are! Or they have a role...thing. Or Yogs made something wicked for fun.
- Can't tell if info is "pure flavor" without knowing it. And even then it would still be a WIFOM till the game ends.
- If you slipped something in the drink, I would think you drugged JMich. That is the first thought anyway AND NOT TO BE TAKEN AS ACCUSATION. In whatever case I strongly believe that flavor is to a degree associated with your (or anyone else's) role in this game. Why? For a player with a special role to get better idea of how to handle that role, how to present it. This is logical. Or just to mess with you for fun - that is always, in every case, a possibility.
- I had this idea that Dedoporno called out a fictional character, who was mentioned in your PM. Lets take a case, where you also dislike this woman (Chaoji Huozhe was it?). I think, you treated this special information as special information. As in "Oh my! I just got a small detail that obviously no one else knows about! That means she is highly likely to be scum. And it is my job to: find out WHO is this player; find out if he is scum." And then, all of a sudden, dedoporno blew the whole train of ideas of yours. He made unnecessary obstacles for you in finding this player and determining his scummyness. You got angry over this. You have let your emotions flow and that turned into a very heated discussion, which was really unnecessary at this point. And this discussion has placed a noose around your neck.
My further idea? Whatever you have in that PM of yours, it still is helpful to a degree. I myself could be gravely mistaken and if I am, I will congratulate you. But I believe you are town. The overall situation, PM-flavor-name-stuff thing, your previous gameplay and your personality all together give me this strong gut feeling.
And even if I did not think you to be town, I still wouldn't vote you. And this is for people, voting drealmer now. Because you are too much of a gamble to vote now. Too high chance to misslynch you. For you made a fuss that a few players got confused and angry about. It is way too easy for scum to vote you on whatever you said. And then a few more people may join just because they don't see a better target.
And if you are town, you have some good (yet challenging) insights.
...
Oh, and one more thing. Overall, in general. People, don't forget that opinions can change. I had a very same problem that drove me nuts in real life... There was certain matter. Lets call it pasturage. A month ago, pasturage was new thing for me, I knew very little and said "Pasturage is evil. Only bad people do that.". Weeks passed, I learned a lot about pasturage: who does that, why does that, how that works, what good comes out. I started doing it and now I said "Pasturage is amazing! Many good and some bad people do it. We can do it for good.". My colleague started bugging me "How come a month ago you sounded so sure it was bad and now you insist it is good?" Because I gained knowledge! I was right a month ago (based on how little knowledge I had) and I am absolutely right now (based on how much true knowledge I gained).
So... Opinions change. And in this Mafia game it would be wise to think "Is (s)he really a hypocrite, or did his/her opinion change?" before accusing anyone of lying and twisting his/her own words.
drealmer7: Ponder these things:
What if not everyone has a dislike in their PM? What should we make of those people or whatever other information they may or may not have in their PMs? Is their information pure "flavor" too to be disregarded? What if my PM says "you saw so and so slip something into so and so's drink during the social last night" ? What if that so-and-so has been called out as being disliked by someone, and now they are hesitant to reveal themselves, and my PM information that I thought was going to be useful, no longer is?
You asked me to ponder and I did. Here is what came to mind: What if not everyone has a dislike in their PM? What should we make of those people or whatever other information they may or may not have in their PMs? Is their information pure "flavor" too to be disregarded? What if my PM says "you saw so and so slip something into so and so's drink during the social last night" ? What if that so-and-so has been called out as being disliked by someone, and now they are hesitant to reveal themselves, and my PM information that I thought was going to be useful, no longer is?
- You probably do not have same thing as most us. Want to know, who I think, also does not have same thing as most of us? Scum. Or... A role. There is a slim chance Yogsloth made you town and intentionally gave you something else.
- Of those people with different info. We may think they are scum! And they probably are! Or they have a role...thing. Or Yogs made something wicked for fun.
- Can't tell if info is "pure flavor" without knowing it. And even then it would still be a WIFOM till the game ends.
- If you slipped something in the drink, I would think you drugged JMich. That is the first thought anyway AND NOT TO BE TAKEN AS ACCUSATION. In whatever case I strongly believe that flavor is to a degree associated with your (or anyone else's) role in this game. Why? For a player with a special role to get better idea of how to handle that role, how to present it. This is logical. Or just to mess with you for fun - that is always, in every case, a possibility.
- I had this idea that Dedoporno called out a fictional character, who was mentioned in your PM. Lets take a case, where you also dislike this woman (Chaoji Huozhe was it?). I think, you treated this special information as special information. As in "Oh my! I just got a small detail that obviously no one else knows about! That means she is highly likely to be scum. And it is my job to: find out WHO is this player; find out if he is scum." And then, all of a sudden, dedoporno blew the whole train of ideas of yours. He made unnecessary obstacles for you in finding this player and determining his scummyness. You got angry over this. You have let your emotions flow and that turned into a very heated discussion, which was really unnecessary at this point. And this discussion has placed a noose around your neck.
My further idea? Whatever you have in that PM of yours, it still is helpful to a degree. I myself could be gravely mistaken and if I am, I will congratulate you. But I believe you are town. The overall situation, PM-flavor-name-stuff thing, your previous gameplay and your personality all together give me this strong gut feeling.
And even if I did not think you to be town, I still wouldn't vote you. And this is for people, voting drealmer now. Because you are too much of a gamble to vote now. Too high chance to misslynch you. For you made a fuss that a few players got confused and angry about. It is way too easy for scum to vote you on whatever you said. And then a few more people may join just because they don't see a better target.
And if you are town, you have some good (yet challenging) insights.
...
Oh, and one more thing. Overall, in general. People, don't forget that opinions can change. I had a very same problem that drove me nuts in real life... There was certain matter. Lets call it pasturage. A month ago, pasturage was new thing for me, I knew very little and said "Pasturage is evil. Only bad people do that.". Weeks passed, I learned a lot about pasturage: who does that, why does that, how that works, what good comes out. I started doing it and now I said "Pasturage is amazing! Many good and some bad people do it. We can do it for good.". My colleague started bugging me "How come a month ago you sounded so sure it was bad and now you insist it is good?" Because I gained knowledge! I was right a month ago (based on how little knowledge I had) and I am absolutely right now (based on how much true knowledge I gained).
So... Opinions change. And in this Mafia game it would be wise to think "Is (s)he really a hypocrite, or did his/her opinion change?" before accusing anyone of lying and twisting his/her own words.
Hunter65536
New GOGlin
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trentonlf
Easily amused
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
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From Denmark
Posted March 04, 2016
trentonlf: So your vote on flub is because he is more involved in scum hunting or do you have another reason?
First: I have no solid reasons to draw on any player for the moment. So far I feel like drealmer is town and so might be dedoporno (based on him being first to announce his PM, which in construction, matches mine). I also know that such saying puts me in a questionable position "He might be scum, covering for his scum buddy/-ies". But if I am to guess scum, I may just as well guess other townies. So I choose to vote flubbucket now. He always looks scummy to me. Even when we were scum buddies in game #35, I thought he might be some super mafioso. Sounds pompous, I know. He seems to be enjoying flavor game (though bikini professor seems self-created) more than scum hunting. But then what scum hunting he does is too much for an ordinary town flubbucket. That raises my premature (Day 1) suspicions on him. And so, I vote flub.
My other suspects could be Leo, agent, cristigale. For lurking (sort of (it's Day 1 after all)). And I can't read Hunter, HSL, you and Krypsyn in this game. Yet.