Damn. I got grammar Nazi'd.

Catching up now, though I may not get far or post much. Almost time to leave.

I'm not at all clear what you mean by that.

I would rather.

Saw that coming...

You gonna get all pissy about it? Can you not see this will work?

Heh.

Oh look. Ix is here, and showing a poor grasp of the situation too.

Vote Ixamyakxim

Because up until just before I fell asleep last night I had completely forgotten he was even in the game, and that to me suggests lurking of a high order.

I unvoted Leonard exactly because I think his claim is legit. While trent may be displaying the behaviour you suggest (and don't think I haven't noticed) I think we're the only two to unvote since his claim so you seem a little overly dramatic.

I'm clearly not going to vote me, and Leonard is off the table unless there is literally no other option to avoid lynch (I believe him but I've not ruled out the possibility he and HijacK are scum), but I think there are two players who I would also vote but I need to do a reread and see if that confirms my suspicions.

(emphasis added)
That's a good point. I prefer to go with my top pick.

unvote Leonard

vote adalia

The mood is swinging dramatically in the room, with Leonard03 and adaliabooks trading places in the spotlight.


Perhaps it has something to do with the lack of sunlight, but the experts are becoming rather irritable. Yogsloth stormed out earlier in the day, muttering something about "BWWRVWLRL2ADIO".

The FBI agents that are keeping an eye on the council are still trying to figure out what exactly that means, but it doesn't exactly sound complimentary...


Vote Count

adaliabooks: 5 (drealmer7, bler144, trentonlf, yogsloth, cristigale)
Leonard03: 3 (Krypsyn, Ixamyakxim, dedoporno)
yogsloth: 1 (flubbucket)
Ixamyakxim: 1 (adaliabooks)

Not Voting: Bookwyrm627, HijacK, HypersomniacLive, Leonard03

Family is asleep, almost 100 posts to catch up on, and a bunch are lengthy. Better get crackin'!

So I stayed up almost all night last night playing Smash. I've got two hours of sleep. Will be back after today's jobs to post! :D
This is apologies for any and all incoherence ahead of time.

What an odd post. It almost reminds me of another one:

I'm still sticking with my ealier impressions of you adalia but you are right about one thing. I do have a very poor grasp of the situation. I THOUGHT I had a decent one.

But more and more of these "wagons" seem highly orchestrated. Like they're never intended to reach a lynch. Now that adalia's is moving again I'm super curious if anyone who has been parked on it for a good long while suddenly backs out.

I won't be adding to this one though.

Once again you make a post with a clear implication, but I'm not sure what the actual foundation is. What do you mean "more and more of these wagons"? Are you possibly including last game?

In this game the only meaningful wagons were

1) yogs (max L-5, alignment unk.)
2) P1na (lynch - scum)
3) Leonard (max L-2? still in play for lynch D2 or D3, alignment unk.)
4) now adalia (currently L-3, alignment unk)

Yogs' wagon, at least realistically, was never likely to run even to claim, much less lynch, for a variety of reasons, so it's not surprising that it fell apart. And at max it was still L-5. That doesn't require any "orchestration" to scuttle. In any case, P1na came from out of the blue, and, most importantly we ended D1 on a scum lynch.

Heck, you were talking about unvoting yogs within 2-3 posts of getting on, and then instead of battling to "save" the wagon you ran off after drealmer for his out-loud theorying. So you're not exactly a purist on the matter.

The most surprising thing to me about that wagon is that Flub is still on it. In any case, you should always re-evaluate your theories and votes in light of new information.

On that point, you never answered my prior question, but you seemed to be implying we were all crazy for buying Leonard's claim. Correct? His role claim, at least for the moment, appears to hold water. His alignment is still in question. But both from the perspective of analysis and strategy that is fairly significant info you should be weighing.

I don't blame Krypsyn at all for still preferring Leonard > adalia, but I'm assuming he's at least considered what's on the table. Whereas you seem to be suggesting just plowing ahead with eyes closed.

If you doubt his role claim, it would be nice if you'd make a case for why you doubt his role claim. Maybe you know something that suggests we really should lynch Leonard today and it would be good for us to know that. Maybe you're talking out of your ass, and it would be good for us to know that.

Now, what you determine from new data is up to you. In any case, we haven't even had a bad day's outcome yet, nor do we know that any of the aborted wagons was on scum, so I'm not entirely sure what you're upset about.

I love you too, buddy!


It's you who's trying to make less out of the roles to keep it all in a nice and positive light. I assume you've seen my post to trentonlf about the HijacK block/jail, and we've been over the part about you a few times already.


I see a lot of affirmative statements made with certainty here, and have to wonder how you can be so sure. I'm still trying to figure out what yogsloth's doing, he's got an eye with a raised eyebrow from me for now, so I wonder what it is that has you so certain about both the mafia team and him. And yes, I've read your later reply to bler144, doesn't look like a better argument, in fact, I'm not sure it's even a different argument.
As for the Coroner claim in general, I've already addressed it, which I also assume that you've seen.

As I explained to flub Leonard felt he [flub] was scummy enough to vote for him over the ongoing wagon regardless of the fact he is so oriented in securing a lynch. And today, while nothing changed regarding flub, Leonard didn't re-vote stating that flub isn't "scummy enough".

On the other hand flub was all over Yog on D1 and went back onto him on D2. Unlike Leonard flub's vote is consistent (technically there isn't an official situation change regarding Yog, even though one can make quite likely assumptions).



Yeah, but how likely is that given the information we had Yesterday? Unless scum know for a fact there are multiple scum teams why would they jail their buddy? How likely is for scum HijacK to get attacked just because he is more vulnerable? A vig kill seems like an anti-town move at this point, SK is the only option I see as viable, but again seems like a stretch. And most importantly, if HijacK is scum and jailed by his scum buddy for protection - why would he tell us?



So, a bunch of people dropped by and still no counter claim? With the risk of being accused of role fishing I strongly believe one exposed Town power role is worth one mafioso lynched, so if someone is holding back, please consider stepping out.

Leonard's wagon fell apart in favor of adalia's, so I will keep my vote on Leonard for a few hours more waiting for that counter and if that doesn't come or some other development doesn't kick in I'll switch.

Adalia already showed his readiness for voting (bussing?) Leonard. @Leonard, what is your stance towards adalia's wagon? Are you going to join it? Why (not)?

@Ix, how does Wyrm look now?