Posted November 20, 2015
Part 2: Or make me wait the full 10 minutes. Meanies.
yogsloth: Bookwyrm and dedo are Scum. But they're not on the same team as P1na and adalia. They've been fencing with each other all Day. dedo thinks they have identical roles among the two teams. Leonard is on one team, but don't know which, presumably adalia's. At least one more mafia is among the lurkers.
That about the sum of it, gentlemen? Well considering you have at least on thing wrong...
Krypsyn: The bit about the two claimed roleblocks/jailings is the tip of the iceberg. The way some people are subtly (or perhaps not so subtly) broaching the subject of multiple factions is interesting, as well as how others are quick to smack down such discussion. See, I was going to say something about this too. But know everybody's gonna be like "Look at him! Copying Krypsyn! Why he no use his own noggin????"
So you are going to vote for his pick, but you don't know if he's town. Right.
bler144: Perhaps there's something else driving the "multiple factions theory," but the heart of it to date seems to be the two claimed and mirroring night actions. Sorry, that doesn't hold up. Just a couple games ago there were three blocks. And not a peep about multiple factions. Some people know something.
bler144: Not sure I follow that bolded part. I re-read Leonard over N1, and almost all of it again last night. I absolutely agree he's not scum-hunting. Nice to know we all agree on that part.
bler144: Not sure what he is doing, but I didn't read most of what you describe to be as nefarious as you did, as much as it seemed like an attempt to be present without being present - that he wasn't really concerned if yogs or P1na were the lynch either way. Whether or not he was surprised that P1na flipped scum, I did get the sense he wasn't particularly invested in what the flip would say beyond how it reflected on him. Likewise, looks to me like he was inquiring about yog's claim without being actually concerned. Same for piling on wyrm's question to Ix and then ghosting. Not sure how you got that I didn't care who was lynched. I think it was pretty obvious I didn't want P1na lynched. I was dead wrong about him, but at the time he didn't want him lynched. So basically, I'm asking about a bunch of stuff that I don't care about. I don't see how that makes sense.
bler144: He's in my top 3, no question (though probably #3). I am a bit reminded that in #28 he was lurking up the dickens, we pressured him, and he just kept lurking. Eventually he claimed and was toast as a policy lynch (town nexus). The one role where he excelled was neutral survivor, and while his voting makes me pretty sure that's not what he is as a role, it does seem that survival is his end, for whatever reason. Scum, power role trying to not be a target to anyone, town vanilla who's confused and waiting for someone to bring investigative detail to the table, neutral whatever, IDK. I remember that too. I if I recall correctly the people pushing for my lynch were scum. Doesn't help us too much here because every man and the dog have said they think I'm scummy.
He he, neutral survivor was fun to play. I would like to be SK sometime :D or Town Arsonist. As for surviving this game, true, but I don't see why that makes me scummy.
bler144: Will I vote him to avoid no lynch? At least based on what's on the table, yes. I'm not holding my breath that "pressure" will clarify his alignment, but am happy to be proved wrong. I'm trying to remember if pressure votes have every really worked.
bler144: Now someone gets you looking at Leonard and instead of going at him in your normal fashion, you've made a "grand analysis," which certainly is something I would do, so I'm not pointing fingers that someone would do it. It just feels a bit...surprising...of a swing coming from you. I would have expected you to use your insights to cross-examine him before eventually making a hard case. Laying it out in advance as you did seems more like a play to convince others. Nah, he does do big analysis like this sometimes.
Someone (I think bler? Could be wrong) said something about how everybody on my wagon is on for different reasons. Isn't that odd? Basically people are just jumping on in whatever way suits them. Like trentonlf above for "pressure". Ix is probably going to join soon as its a rolling wagon, who knows what reason he'll choose though...
Whew, how do you people write walls of text all the time? That took me almost an hour.
That about the sum of it, gentlemen?
So you are going to vote for his pick, but you don't know if he's town. Right.
He he, neutral survivor was fun to play. I would like to be SK sometime :D or Town Arsonist. As for surviving this game, true, but I don't see why that makes me scummy.
Someone (I think bler? Could be wrong) said something about how everybody on my wagon is on for different reasons. Isn't that odd? Basically people are just jumping on in whatever way suits them. Like trentonlf above for "pressure". Ix is probably going to join soon as its a rolling wagon, who knows what reason he'll choose though...
Whew, how do you people write walls of text all the time? That took me almost an hour.
